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What NEEDS to get in my contract?
Replied Nov. 27, 2008
What NEEDS to get in my contract?
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Michael Nov. 27, 2008.
I need some info please!
Replied Aug. 7, 2008
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In prototype, you will have to get an apartment since there is no barracks attached to either base. During A-school and Power school, however, you must live in the barracks unless you are married, in which case you will live in base housing, a little down the road from the school.
The wish list works just like any other in the navy, they will require a certain number of people of each rate, and based on who wanted that for their first pick, they will try to make as many people as possible have that.
When you don't fall into that group of people, you might get your second pick, sometimes you'll end up with your third pick. After about a week or so, you will find out what rate you've been assigned.
Keep in mind that 99% of all people that go to boot camp for nuke put ET, EM, MM, in that order for what they want for a job, even without knowing what any of the rates actually do.
I knew beforehand that I wanted to be an electrician, but would have settled for ET, so my list was EM, ET, MM. Luckily for me, I got EM.
Just know that bootcamp is a short 7 weeks. Stephen said don't volunteer for anything during bootcamp. He kind of flew under the radar.
If you haven't started working out, do that. He worked out with his recruiter for 3 months before he went in. He said PT was a breeze.
My suggestion is to enjoy yourself while you are young, but try to stay out of trouble. They had 90 in his DIV for bootcamp and only 60 graduated. Some got in trouble for fighting, smoking, etc. They actually got discharged.
Choose a job that will make you happy, that you will enjoy doing every day, because you are pretty much stuck with it.
Don't let the recruiter talk you into what they want you to do and what they think is best. You do what feels right for you.
Good Luck.
Just so you know, though, ET's spend just as much time in the engine room as EM's do. The Reactor Technician is an engineroom watchstation.
An EM, Electrician's Mate (electrician), is the rate that is in control of the electric plant, the generators, and the pumps in the engine room.
An MM, Machinist's Mate (mechanic), are in control of the steam and seawater piping systems in the engine room. They also do some work with welding and there is a lathe in the engine room that they use to machine parts as well.
ELT's start off at mechanics, and then after prototype, they to go a school to learn the radcon and chemistry stuff
MM's go to a shorter A-school than the electrical rates because their school is focused on learning about tools, heat transfer, and valves. The electrical rates have a 6 month school because we go through electrical theory, electronic theory (they are different), digital microprocessor operation, and then the last class is an inrate class. Electricians learn motor and generator theory, and the ET's work on more stuff concerning digital theory.
Underway, our watchstations are Auxiliary Electrician Aft, Throttleman, and Electrical Operator. AEA monitors temperatures for the electrical, propulsion, and reactor plant components as well as being the space electrician for responding to casualties and doing whatever else needs to be done by E-div.
Throttleman is, in my opinion, the best watchstation in the entire boat. TH is essentially the gas pedal for the boat. He has direct control over how fast the ship goes by operating the throttle handwheels, two big silver wheels which are connected to the propulsion turbine throttles. It's fun to answer cavitate bells, which will have enough torque applied to the shaft to tilt the ship sideways.
Electrical Operator is the watchstation directly in control over the electrical plant components. He is in charge of controlling the turbine, motor, and diesel generator loading, as well as lining up the electric plant for various evolutions.
Electricians are also in charge of maintaining the electrical equipment, which includes cleaning the insides of the machines and other small maintenance items on the generators and all of the pumps that are spread throughout the engine room.
I just went to a school that certified me to perform vibration analysis on the pumps, motors, and various places along the hull of the ship. This is a certification that I can take with me to the real world to work for a consultation firm doing the same thing. This is a highly desired skill in the civilian sector and I know a few engineers from my experiences before the navy that have very secure jobs doing that.
In a couple more weeks, I will be going to a school to maintain the ship's oxygen generators. This is also a desired certification in the civilian sector, many department stores, casinos, and hospitals use oxygen generating machines to increase the oxygen levels in the environment. Stores and casinos use it to make people willing to spend more money, hospitals use them to make oxygen for patients and to keep the families more mellow.
Mechanics are in charge of maintaining the steam plant components, from the main and auxiliary steam systems to the seawater systems and the water generators on the ship. Their watchstations are Engineroom Lower Level, Engineroom Upper Level, and Engineroom Supervisor. ERLL is in charge of maintaining the temperatures in spec for the propulsion plant and turbine generator lube oil as well as the seawater temperatures and the air conditioning units.
ERUL is in charge of making sure the water generating equipment is running when necessary, the air ejectors, cooling water, and other components in (you guessed it) engineroom upper level.
ERS is a roving watchstander who oversees the operations of the mechanical watchstanders throughout the engine room.
There is also another rate that you probably haven't heard about which are titled MM, but are different altogether. They're ELT, Engineering Laboratory Technician. These are the chemists who are in charge of maintaining the water in the reactor and steam plants within very specific bands to minimize corrosion and damage to the piping. They are also in charge of radiological controls throughout the ship and take radiological surveys to verify there are no radioactivity issues that need to be dealt with.
As for the attrition rate, I keep hearing about a 75% rate, but don't know where it's founded. In my A-school class, we lost one person, who really shouldn't have been there at all (he didn't have any kind of motivation and wasn't interested in being in the military). So one person out of 26. In Power School, we lost one person due to some issues she was having that weren't related to the program, and we lost one mechanic that after deciding he didn't want to be there anymore did whatever he could to get himself kicked out. So two people out of more than 300.
In prototype, we lost 6 people, all of which simply didn't want to be in the navy anymore. 6 out of close to 250.
So, we didn't have anywhere close to 75% attrition, whoever told you that was misinformed.
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