This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.

FIRST TIME HERE?

FOLLOW THESE STEPS TO GET STARTED:

Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit Navy.com - America's Navy and Navy.mil also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:

OPSEC GUIDELINES

Events

**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  

FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR UP TO DATE INFO:

RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021

Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

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Boot Camp Moms (and loved ones)

To everyone with a loved one at RTC or soon to be there, we say, "Welcome!"  To those who are sticking around after PIR to help those who are just beginning this awesome journey, we say, "Thank you!"

**BEGINNING OCTOBER 5, 2023, RECRUIT GRADUATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED EVERY THURSDAY (NO LONGER ON FRIDAY), EXCEPT FOR THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING, WHEN GRADUATION IS ON WEDNESDAY.

This is a place to talk, ask questions, and share stories. It is our desire that this Group will provide the information, encouragement, and support you need while your loved one is at RTC in Great Lakes. Enjoy your time here and feel free to Comment and join in the Discussions. Be sure to check out the "Pages" to the right, located under the pictures of the Members, especially OPSEC and PERSEC (Making Changes to Your Profile), (Click "View All" to see all of them.)

Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it .  You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!

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Answers to Common Questions

The Navy has updated their Cell Phone Usage (4/2024).

Read the article here on personal cell phones for call homes:

Personal Cell Phone Use for Calls Home

This link gives you a breakdown of the training schedule at boot camp.

BASIC MILITARY TRAINING SCHEDULE

New in 2022: Navy to lengthen Basic Military Training

Navy to lengthen Boot Camp - Navy Times

Are there any official RTC sites?

Yes, check out https://www.facebook.com/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand and http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/. They will have lots of information for you. https://www.facebook.com/NavalServiceTraining also has items at times.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPGreatLakes has pics of some of the recruits who give blood while at RTC. Those donations occur about 2 weeks (10 to 16 days depending on the division) before PIR.

You may also find pics in https://www.navy.mil/viewGallery.asp.

RTC will stream PIR live at http://navylive.dodlive.mil/ beginning at 8:45 am CST on the day of PIR for those who are unable to attend in person. (Once PIR has passed, you will be able to see the video at https://navylive.dodlive.mil/. If the one you want is not there, then click on a PIR video and then change the date in the URL to the date you want. You will have to change both the numerical date and the written out date in the URL. For example, if you want the video for the March 3, 2017 PIR date, then change https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/08/23/navy-recruit-graduation-august-23-2019/ to https://navylive.dodlive.mil/2017/03/03/navy-recruit-graduation-march-3-2017/.)

 

Can recruits take anything to BC with them?

Recruits should go with what they have on their backs, their cell phones, and not much else. Effective August 2022 Recruits can bring their own (approved) running shoes.  (See Things to Do in the Last Month Before Your Future Sailor Leaves for RTC.)

 

What will the first day be like at BC?

See Arrival and What Happens at RTC and Ship/Division--How it Works.

How long is the "I'm here!" call and when will s/he be able to call again?

See Phone Cards and Phone Calls.

 

I got my recruit's address from the recruiter. Can I trust it?

Double-check the address the recruiter gave you against those at 

RTC Division Addresses, but we strongly encourage you to wait on the form letter before sending mail to your recruit since the address provided by the recruiter prior to that can be wrong up to 11 business days or more after the recruit's arrival if the recruit failed the first attempt at the run and then passed (or failed) the second attempt and was ASMO'd to a different division (or to SEPS) or if RTC needed to move recruits for some reason. Sometimes a form letter is not mailed by accident and if it has been at least 3 calendar weeks since your recruit arrived at RTC and you do not have a form letter, then you can call the recruiter and get the address and mail letters to your recruit since the address in the system should be the correct one at that point, but be sure to double-check the address here Ship/Division--How it Works

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**NOTE: There is a virtual graduation for your Sailor that you can watch on the RTC FaceBook page.  It is posted the FRIDAY after PIR.

RTC Facebook Page - Graduation

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When will the Form Letter come and what is in it?

The form letter will arrive in your regular mail around nine to fourteen business days after the recruit's arrival at RTC since it is not mailed until a division’s 1-1 Day of Training, which takes place after your recruit has taken and passed the run portion of the Baseline PFA, which is on or about the fifth business day after arrival (later if the division that your recruit was tentatively placed in upon arrival did not fill until a later date). See Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA) and Fitness Improvement Training (FIT)The brochure that is included from MWRGL about hotels and other things is at Travel Guide . The form letter includes your recruit's address, so now you can mail out all the letters you have been writing. There is more on this in Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit.

The form letter will also tell you the date of PIR, so you can start making plans for your trip. There are many hotels in the area and there is information in the grad pack and on this site about them. If you fly in, renting a car will make your life easier. Also, if you are flying, some airlines, such as Southwest, will allow you to change your flight without a charge if something happens, so you do not have to book refundable tickets.  ** EDITED - LIVE PIR's RESUME 8/13/2021**

UPDATED TRAINING SCHEDULE (6/2022 - Thanks to belovedbyHim)

The Expected timeline will look like this:

Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call

Week 1 Day 1-7 -- Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)

Day 8 -- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later
Week 2 -- First week of Training including PT and Swim Qualifications
Week 3 -- Marlin Spike - (Line handling- How to tie up a Ship to the Pier) , First inspections and tests (Dental May be this week or next... Not Confirmed)(Form letter/ Personal letters usually arrive this week) 

Week 4 -- Confidence Chamber & Fire Fighting training
Week 5 -- Fire Arms Training    

Week 6 -7 -- More training, Drilling (Flags and Marching).

Week 8 – Battle Stations (done prior to final PFA). Your SR will call home to say they are a Sailor but they still have to pass final PFA in order to graduate.

Week 9 & 10– Warrior Training (Life skills) and Final PFA


Approx 10 Fridays from Departure they will have PIR!! If you can go you will be amazed at the change that happened in just 10 short weeks. For the time being they are also still Live Streaming the PIR ceremony.

Once you know your recruit's PIR date, be sure to join the group for that date. PIR groups are posted on the Comment Wall below once they are created. 

USPS Informed Delivery - Sign up and receive an email from the US Postal Service showing what mail you will be getting each day (if available in your area).  

Informed Delivery®

How long should I plan to stay in the Great Lakes area?

Arrive at least the day before PIR so you can pick up your ticket/s for PIR and also attend Sarge's Meet and Greet if you wish to do so.

If your Sailor's "A" School or training is in GL, then plan to leave late Sunday or on Monday. If your Sailor will be flying out, then plan to leave late Saturday or on Sunday to have the most time with your Sailor. (This may need to be adjusted if PIR is not on Friday.) See Saving Money PIR Weekend and PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend.

**UPDATED LIBERTY RULES - GL - AUGUST 2022**

Here is a link from Great Lakes regarding their Updated Liberty Rules during PIR weekend, effective August, 2022. (Thank you Amy for sharing this with me.)  I'll post it in a few different places.

Updated Liberty Rules for GL - August 2022

SARGE'S MEET & GREET  - BACK AS OF 3/18/2022

Plan to arrive the day before PIR so you won't risk missing PIR and go to Sarge's Meet and Greet from 4pm to 8pm the evening before PIR at the Lakehurst Event Center (go to http://www.mynavytaxi.com/events.html to RSVP). Sarge has a taxi service and he is a wealth of information. His cell number is 847-212-0246. His Meet and Greet and services have been getting great reviews. Find Sarge on N4M as OldSarge.

 

Who can attend PIR?

RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021 

Your recruit will indicate the names of up to FOUR guests who will be permitted to receive tickets and attend PIR. RTC may change that to three guests if there is a large TG. Children ages 2 and under do not need a ticket to attend PIR, but a copy of the child's birth certificate may be presented in order for the child to attend PIR. The names of the guests will be listed on the Security Access Form. Your recruit will send the Security Access Form with the form letter and it will need to be completed fully and returned to your recruit. if you do not receive the form letter, then you can download the Security Access Form and complete it and send it to your recruit, but your recruit has the final say on who will attend PIR.

ALL GUESTS 3 YEARS OLD AND OLDER MUST HAVE A TICKET TO ATTEND PIR, INCLUDING MILITARY GUESTS (ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE, RETIRED, VET). No extra guests allowed, no exceptions.

GUESTS SECURITY ACCESS FORM: If you are going to be attending the graduation ceremony, you will need to fill out the security access form, which is included with your form letter. Return the form to your recruit according to the instructions. 

ONLY YOUR RECRUIT CAN CHANGE THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ACCESS LIST: Your recruit will be able to make changes to the access list throughout training. The last opportunity to make changes will be the week before graduation. If there is a change to be made to the access list (such as a name spelled incorrectly, name-swap, etc…) please communicate any changes to your recruit by mail. Recruit Training Command staff cannot change these names or release the names of those on the list. Please do not call for additional seats!

The form can also be downloaded by anyone from the website, but only the recruit has final say-so as to who will be invited. Those names are submitted and those names will be printed on tickets. All of those guests attending must be present with ID to pick up the ticket in person. No exceptions, no swapping of tickets, no changing of names during final week of graduation.

If you are attending a graduation ceremony, you MUST personally obtain your ticket, you cannot pick up tickets for others. Tickets will be distributed at the Recruit Family Welcome Center, located inside the Navy Exchange Burkey Mall, Bldg. 3452, 2650 Green Bay Road Great Lakes, IL 60088 

Additional information on ticketing is also available at www.bootcamp.navy.mil. (See http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/faq.html#grad_ceremony.)

Once you receive your ticket, please DO NOT lose it, as this will be the only ticket you will receive. These tickets are not transferable and are serialized to each graduation attendee. If you do not have a ticket, then you will not be permitted access to the base.

The Recruit Family Welcome Center will be open on the following days and times: Thursday [10:00 AM to 7:30 PM], and Friday [5:30 AM to 8:00 AM]. ***Certain federal holidays may require adjusting days and times. Please refer to the command website for those specific updates***

Please plan accordingly so each person listed can check in to receive a ticket for the graduation ceremony. Again, if you don’t have a ticket you will NOT be allowed entry to the base. Tickets will only be issued to those guests who the graduating recruit has verified will be attending. 

Driving on to base.

Driver’s license, vehicle registration, proof of insurance or rental car agreement and graduation ticket must be ready to present to security at access points. Everyone in the car ages three and over must show their ticket to graduation. If someone in the car over the age of two does not have a ticket, they are not allowed through the gate, no exceptions.

  • NO cell phone usage while driving on base! 
  • Seat belts are required for all drivers/passengers at all times
  • Motorcycle drivers/riders MUST have proper protective clothing/equipment such helmet, long pants, long-sleeved shirt, and over the ankle hard-soled boots.
  • Recent graduates are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including motorcycles, and are NOT allowed to be a passenger on a motorcycle.

See Bootcamp.Navy.Mil for the Frequently Asked Questions.

What will happen PIR weekend?

See PIR Day and Liberty during PIR Weekend

http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/graduation.html and http://www.navyformoms.ning.com/custom/media/downloads/N4M_PIR_infographic_web.pdf.

S.O. Contract:

Moms whose sons have an S.O. Contract headed to BUD/S there is a group for you.

It is called, BUD/S and SQT (Stages of a S.E.A.L.)

Interested:

Send a friend request to NavyMom(J) for more information.

(Click on the highlighted links.)

Be sure to check out the Pages to the right (under the pictures of the Members) for additional information. (You will need to click "View All" to see all of them.)

Donna is no longer active on the site. Several others who have begun this journey before you are here to help. (Donna, we are forever thankful that you started this group that continues to help so many.)

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Comment by Phoenixmom on December 8, 2020 at 7:33pm

Hey Shanny sure thing! was hoping you two got some Quality time together! I know when Bud is home for the first few days it's all about his friends and them taking him out, but then It's MOM Time!

Hey Shortcake, Hope The Hubby is Ok, OUCH KIdney stones no FUN! Hope your Son is well also.

Comment by Shortcake on December 8, 2020 at 6:53pm

Wow! I have missed a whole lot going on here.  I hope everyone had a lovely Thanksgiving. 

My husband ended up in the ER on Thanksgiving because of kidney stones, but my SR called home!  He is in the last leg of his boot camp journey.  I haven't heard anything from him since Thanksgiving, but that's ok, I know his division is doing well from other moms on the FB page.  They are scheduled to graduate next week on the 17th!  Battle Stations will probably start Sunday or Tuesday from what I hear...

Shanny - I'm so glad your Sailor will be home for a visit!  That is super exciting! 

I will try and keep up with the chats better.  I have been swamped with work.  

To all the new moms joining, it is a difficult journey, but so rewarding.  Hang in there.  No news is seriously good news. You may get 1 or 2 phone calls during the entire course of boot camp unless they get rewarded for something specific.  Hopefully they are into writing letters, my son is not.  It was difficult at first to accept, but I understand he has so much going on.  I write him almost everyday.  I have heard that letters get through just fine, but for some reason, cards are not.  They get held up or lost.

Anyways, hope you all are doing well!  

Comment by Shanny on December 8, 2020 at 6:50pm

PhoenixMom:  thanks for checking on me!  We are good here!  He went for a "quality" haircut today at his usual place and to pick up burgers. Sat around and played with his dog. Just a very low key day. 

Comment by Phoenixmom on December 8, 2020 at 4:52pm

Shanny haven't heard from you today, Hoping you and Son having a Great time!

Comment by partyofseven on December 8, 2020 at 2:14pm

Phoenixmom- Sweet. Thanks. I love how good you can see the ship. 

Anti M- I love playing secret santa. Nothing wrong with shopping that's for sure.  :)

NewMilMom- whoo hoo glad you got to speak to your son. Yay for phone calls. It's so great when they get to call. Prayers that your daughter starts feeling better soon. Allergies kill me at times.

warriorprotector- You are very welcome. We were all there where you are at some point. :) 

What a great idea. That sounds really neat as you go thru the pictures.  

Comment by warriorprotector on December 8, 2020 at 1:59pm

BelovedbyHim -- Thank you for the timeline information, my phone goes everywhere with me and I can assure you I will sprint out of Christmas services so fast they'll put my in the Olympics!  LOL!  His voice will be the dearest gift this year!  I've been writing letters, have a Christmas card for him and his Birthday card all getting sent the minute I get that form letter.  Have you used Monday Delivery (Christian based delivery service started by a Marine)?  Or do you think that is just as bad as Sandboxx?  Just curious!  Blessings!

Comment by Phoenixmom on December 8, 2020 at 1:50pm

NewMilMom so Happy you were able to speak to your Son, fingers crossed something good comes out of him and travel. sorry to hear about your Daughter, wishing her  well.

Comment by warriorprotector on December 8, 2020 at 1:42pm

Good afternoon Ladies!  I've come to the conclusion I can only post comments during my lunch break at work!  Last night I tried to individually thank all the ladies who reach out to me.  I wrote 3 long comments and they never got posted. Ghost in the machine!

Thank you so much to Phoenixmom, Chipmonk, Partyofseven, Shanny, belovedbyhim, vintagegal, and I'm probably missing someone!  Your insights and support are so appreciated!  Big hugs to all.

I tell you Northwoodsmom, I think you are spot on!  My 1st born is a geek that has a close knit group of friends and is very happy to hermit himself when not working. I think that he will find his second family with the Navy, where his geek expertise will help the fleet and his quiet, humorous and loyal personality will gain him a closeness with his shipmates.  Looking forward to seeing the new man he will become!

My husband saw a great idea on the closed FB page for RTC parents (I don't do social media). This mom created a "Road to becoming a Sailor" photo book with pictures, copies of letters to and from her son etc.  I'm going to start compiling, only draw back is that I cry when I look at pictures! Ha!

Just keep repeating to myself, silence is good! No news is good news!

Comment by NewMilmom on December 8, 2020 at 1:38pm

Happy Tuesday Morning to All,

We have Santa Ana winds again today so it was already warm out at 4:30am when I took my oldest doggo outside.  Argh! we do not need more winds we are all still trying to clean up from the last ones.  And praying no more fires now the damn Santa Ana winds return.  I have never heard of Santa Ana winds in December in the years we have been here we didn't have them.  My poor middle daughter is suffering with allergies & sinus from all of it something fierce.

My sailor called dh last night & sounded soooo tired!  It was short conversation as he is having some troubles with the laptop computer he just bought on base... paid a lot but, it isn't working correctly?...?  not sure what he will do on it.

He did briefly text me too re: possible travel for stand down & changes... The Important stuff (yes, I'll take it).   Think we got it worked out & he texted me "night night"....awww...my heart burst & I had to hold back tears.  2 words and Momma is a puddle...I do not think that will ever change.  Hearing how sad/tired he was last night when on speaker phone with dh & dd about broke my heart as I just wanted to give him a big Hug...so I hugged him in my heart & prayers.  

For all you Momma's with those random teary moments, buying food that food/item you know they'd like just to remember they aren't home, missing checking in their rooms & watching them sleep (yes, I am guilty of checking on my kiddos to this day) It Is OKAY!!   

For all of us have felt all the feels just like you are now.  

Remember the "no news is good news" motto & repeat as needed each day.  I sure do!  

I have not had energy to prep & decorate house as I used to for last several years due to life's struggles/rough times - it has been just trying to survive & get through day to day...

but, I am trying to plan to do a bit this year on off chance we will get a couple days of us all together & not dwell on it maybe our last chance for that for a long time coming. 

I will try not to think about how short it is so I can just enjoy each precious minute.

I will also have to enter his room as haven't done so since he left.

Prayers for strength & patience as we all go down this new life road as a Navy Mom to each of us.

C'sMom - omg ... I feel your frustration & heartbreak at your poor sailor getting stuck in endless THU at RTC...must mean something Great is in store for him in the future as he is surely going through the trials & tribulations now. 

Comment by Phoenixmom on December 8, 2020 at 1:37pm

Good Morning Anti M, I'm right with you, I've been so tired Lately like run down. I just would like to snuggle on the couch with a good movie and do nothing. But with everything going on I just cant, I'm always on the GO GO GO! Ugh! But I love online shopping I have come into so good deals, my Bill would be 150.00 bring it down to 40.00 good to me! I went to take my Layaway out Sat. Morning I owed 150.00 left on it  the scanned my receipt and with all the sales they ended up owing me 3.00 back so I got it basically for free. I said OK I wasn't going to argue.

 
 
 

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