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I have been reading the posts to this group regularly - especially over the past few weeks and I have to say I'm more than concerned.  

My son is scheduled to leave for boot camp in December but has requested to leave sooner. 

He has 2 associate degrees - one in Diesel Technology and one in Power Generation. 

When he went to MEPS he accepted a rating for avionics technician (probably not the right technical term) but after he signed, someone at MEPS called him out and said someone in Pittsburgh PA had looked at his ASVAB's and wanted him for nuclear and did he want to do that.  He of course said yes as he was told how prestigious it was and not everyone gets that offer and he "had what it takes" etc. 

He (and we) EXPECT It to be hard but I didn't expect to be reading about a high suicide occurence among sailors in the program and people being dishonorably discharged from the Navy if they aren't successful  I don't expect hand holding but I would think it is in the Navy's best interest to invest in their sailors to be successful and that there would be an infrastructure in place to help that.  

My son was in a technical program.  He is has not had college level chemistry and the physics he took in college was technically oriented. While he is a bright young man - rapid assimilation of book knowledge with no access to tutors or a support structure is probably not a good recipe for his success.  It must be a very special high school graduate who makes it through this program with that kind of knowledge needed.  Although my son is 22 years old, I wonder if he got picked "out of a lineup" just to fill a spot. 

Since his not officially obligated until he walks across the gate at boot camp, maybe he needs to pursue a different rating before he ever leaves for boot camp. 

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ahaverkamp - Thanks for sharing your daugher's experiences, and thank her for the time she has invested in the Navy and I thank you for your time as a Navy Mom. I also appreciate you sharing the information about the alimony in SC. That is really sad.

Okay, so this went to the end of the thread instead of posting on page one like I thought it would  - But, after my comment today on the main group, I wanted to "bump" this back into the discussion cue, if anyone was looking for information or concerned about suicide in the Nuke Program.

Part of my comment, is because I want families to know that while they may think no one else knows about them or even cares what happens to them, our sailors know and some of them will ask us to pray, even without names ever being known. There is a part of my heart that will forever mourn over the loss of a life to suicide and the struggles that these sailors went through. There is a lot we don't understand and we may never have answers to, but I wanted to just post in the comments, that we hold you in our hearts.

There are two numbers that my son has told me that we as parents need to have. Their SLPO's # and the Ombudsman #. These are our first go to if we need information about our sailors. Your sailor needs to put your name on the list for those person's to know who is contacting them. But it is also important to encourage your sailor, as my son said their staff will remind them, call home. Make contact, so that your family is not wondering what is going on and we (the command) have to respond to them. My son said they tell them, "You are not in BC, you can call your family!"  

Suicide is not an easy thing to talk about, and families can feel ashamed, hurt, betrayed, and feel like they have no where to turn. It is important for all of us, to be mindful that we never need to go through life alone. Whether that is as a sailor, a parent, or any other person. I encourage anyone that has been a part of this trauma to talk to others. I am not a trained counselor, I don't write this with anything other than familiarity through various situations. But I do recall reading a post that said the most important part of someone recovering from a traumatic situation was to receive immediate help and be able to talk about it. 

For new families on our Nuke group, yes, suicide is one of the scariest aspects of military life. Talk to your sailor, be proactive in discussing what cues, or what signs they recommend you watch for that indicate they are depressed, and also when are we just being "helicopter" moms and they just have to plow through their school work or watches. And it may be that it is not even you as mom that is the person to have this conversation but another family member, because for this particular circumstance, that person is able or has more ability to understand and deal with your sailor.

I am posting this here, because when my son first got to GC, and I found this group, I started searching through past discussions and this was the first one to show up with regards to suicide. Even if these comments may not follow the thread of the original discussion.

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