This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.



Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

...and visit - America's Navy and also Navy Live - The Official Blog of the Navy to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."

Follow this link for OPSEC Guidelines:



**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed.  Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.

**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.

**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:

In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).  


RTC Graduation

**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED.  Vaccinations still required.

**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.


Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)


Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

For loved ones and graduates of Ship 5(17) no critics!This is a haven for the above, not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! PLEASE READ THRU MASTHEAD. MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE!

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LEGAL 847-688-4949 hit 1 at first prompt, 7 at 2nd.
***Have recruit sign WAIVER so they can speak to you about their case. The hours in Legal are 9 am to 5 pm Central Time. This is only if they are being separated and have been transfered to Ship 5.
If they are being separated on medical issue, have them sign HIPPA release so you can talk about the medical issues too.
Medical 847-688-6755
ADDRESSES FOR ALL SHIPS add division number.
Ship 5
3610 Illinois Street
Great Lakes, IL 60088-3118
PUBLIC AFFAIRS 847-688-2405 if no word from recruit they will have them call back!!
TRANSPORTATION ;Once your recruit has a date going home a civilian handles the actual arrangements His number is 847-688-2767 ext 112, Most recent update is this person only hands over the paper work to the travel office which handles the travel arrangements.Have recruit call when he gets to that point to firm up the arrangements.
Contact your CONGRESSMAN if your recruit is getting a raw deal, it does wonders.
Recruit Training Command Ombudsman
(ombudsman assists with problems recruit s family is experiencing)
Ombudsman info
Great Lakes, Illinois 60088-2845
DSN: 792-3603 ext. 100
PHONE: 847-688-3603 ext 100
This one has specific numbers too
NORTH CHICAGO VA HOSPITAL NAVY LIASON; for hospitalized recruits
1-847-688-1900 ext.85438 or 85441
write to
5722 Integrity Drive
Bldg 768
Millington, Tenn 38054
Phone; 800-522-3451 Mon thru Fri 8am to 4 pm
GreatLakes Web page
go to Great Lakes Directory on that page for phone numbers not listed here
RED CROSS ASSISTANCE FOR CONTACTING MILITARY IN FAMILY EMERGENCY,1082,0_476_,00.html Refer to this page re Red Cross Assistance Phone number; 877-2727337
TAMP (Transitional Assistance Management Program) is a program that offers TriCare standard benefits to separated service members (and their dependents) for 180 days after separation. The coverage begins the day following separation, and you can then go to CHCBP (Continued Health Care Benefit Program- similar to COBRA at $933/quarter for service member, $1900 for family), The separated service member has to call and activate the TAMP benefits. That's it- just a phone call. The service member had to have served for than 30 days and the cause for separation has to be no fault of their own (like a medical condition). DEFINITELY worth looking into! Here's the info:
Here's the link for info about the CHCBP, as well:



This contains all the codes and authorities complete with detailed explanations. It explains every block and every code on a DD-214.


Medical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Military Services

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.03


Criteria and Procedure Requirements for Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment, or Induction in the Armed Forces

  Department of Defense INSTRUCTION NUMBER 6130.4



Discussion Forum


Started by Louisa J. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jul 20, 2022. 6 Replies


Started by gothgirlL. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Feb 8, 2022. 1 Reply

Son had PIR and is now being sent home.

Started by GingerSnap. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jan 14, 2022. 3 Replies

Son hurt and coming home

Started by DuchessAK. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Aug 30, 2021. 2 Replies

Waiting for my son to come home

Started by Worriednavymama. Last reply by MNNavyMom Jan 6, 2021. 4 Replies

So dang confused

Started by Camgirl15. Last reply by Worriednavymama May 26, 2020. 3 Replies

Phone card

Started by jvjnavysister. Last reply by Linda Feb 24, 2020. 2 Replies

Son in Ship 5, called to say coming home!

Started by navyRNmom. Last reply by navyRNmom Aug 17, 2019. 2 Replies

Son discharged

Started by Angela. Last reply by B'sNukeMoM⚓️MMN(Vet) Jul 30, 2019. 7 Replies

My son called that he's coming home???

Started by Momof2boys. Last reply by lemonelephant Dec 26, 2018. 5 Replies

Is it possible to win appeals in SEPS ??

Started by TexasMom. Last reply by momof3boys Nov 20, 2018. 7 Replies

Help re: Medical DX

Started by 8senough. Last reply by lemonelephant Apr 18, 2018. 2 Replies


Started by NAI MOM. Last reply by lemonelephant Apr 15, 2018. 3 Replies

My son is coming home

Started by Angella. Last reply by Angella Apr 11, 2018. 9 Replies

Son's address is Ship 5

Started by hollywood. Last reply by lemonelephant Mar 14, 2018. 3 Replies

What are his chances...

Started by TXNavyMom. Last reply by lemonelephant Sep 7, 2017. 1 Reply

SEPS since June 13th

Started by SHIP 5 Mom. Last reply by nikita0825 Jun 29, 2017. 13 Replies

What does it really mean?

Started by MrsL. Last reply by Antsmom Jun 21, 2017. 15 Replies

Got the call today

Started by Dawn125789 Apr 6, 2017. 0 Replies

Son has not contacted me since the move to SEPS

Started by ProudTnMom. Last reply by redshewmn Apr 3, 2017. 1 Reply

Comment Wall


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Comment by Micky on March 1, 2010 at 1:51am
How do they normally come home???? We live in CT???? anybody know??????
Comment by Micky on March 1, 2010 at 1:48am
tommysgirl07, he told me that they give it to him, some kind of process to get them started with a new career....
Comment by Micky on March 1, 2010 at 1:47am
Got a call from my son yesterday around 2pm. said he got the time because he volunteered to put air fresheners in the bathrooms. TeeHee..... He said he thought he was going to be coming home this Tuesday! YAHHHHHHHHHH... I will be glad to see him come home! Sucks to think that he would have had PIR a week and a half from now..........
Comment by Micky on February 26, 2010 at 2:10am
Heard from my son today. he went to legal on Tuesday and thinks he should be coming home next Wed. He sounds much better than he did last week when he found out about the bad news............. We have been trying to make plans for him when he comes home to try and get him a job and nothing yet but there are other plans in the making......

One thing he needs to do is try and get medical insurance because of his medical d/c being due to a pre-existing condition, they will not give him insurance that would cover his surgery..............

other than this, he is doing well and they do give him a grant for college so he can pursue something in the meantime...............
Comment by Micky on February 19, 2010 at 3:44pm
he is so upset but is afraid that if he says something that they will make him see a psych for it. Also he told me today that last week he pulled something in his lower ab and it really hurts and is afraid to see the medical because he is afraid that he will need surgery............. I can't believe that this is happening. I can't believe that he is afraid to tell them all this so they can what? USE IT AGAINST HIM???? at this point he just wants to come home.
Comment by Micky on February 19, 2010 at 2:57pm
Hi all,

I got word 2 days ago from my son the he is getting a medical discharge for his eye. He went into the navy with them knowing he had a lazy eye and surgery when he was 5. ^ weeks into boot camp, after having a headache (due to wisdom teeth removal) they did a detailed eye exam and he failed it. they said it wasn't correctable with eye glasses but might be with another eye surgery but because it was pre-existing, they won't do anything about it. I am really upset that he was able to get this far and allow him to even go to BC..... Now he tell me that he sits on a tile floor all day long, able to make phone calls every other day and has to wait till Tue to go to legal to sign papers and then they can hold him for up to 10 more days!!!!
Comment by valeriejean on December 8, 2009 at 5:38pm
When my son was discharged, there was a group of 5 of them. Since we live in CA, I didn't want him taking a bus all the way to CA without a cell phone, so I booked him a plane ticket. I am fortunate my brother lives outside of Chicago, so Daniel got to take 2 trains by himself and was picked up by my sister-in-law (he was about 2 hours later than expected, but hey still better than on a bus for 2.5 days!)
Comment by valeriejean on December 7, 2009 at 6:39pm
Christie - I am sorry to hear that he had another episode of swelling and that he is done. I agree with Sheryl! My son made it 2 weeks short of his PIR date....he is definately a stronger young man than went in...and I am a stronger Mom than I was when he went in too! My son came home with many good stories and from all that I can tell, basically good thoughts about his time in boot camp!
Comment by valeriejean on November 19, 2009 at 4:33pm
Christie that is such good news! Hopefully this will be over in no time!

I know my son was originally told he would have a re-4 separation code, and yes that means they aren't eligible for re-enlistment, but the Captain reviews each case and he changed the code to RE-8 so he can go back in 12 months if he gets waivers signed and wants to (I hear that not necessarily an easy process either, but at least its an option)!
Comment by valeriejean on November 16, 2009 at 6:32pm
Elizab61 the navy pays every 2 weeks and its like an automatic takes about 2 - 3 weeks for changes to get processed (at least it did when my husband was in in the navy) so that's why it happens that way...also, since the separation dates are never known until it actually happens (like 48 hours in advance), the other alternative would be to hold all pay once they get to ship 5 and pay once they are officially separated (on the following 15th or EOM)....but some people are in ship 5 for several weeks and thats not fair on their families if they need that $ to live on!

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