This site is for mothers of kids in the U.S. Navy and for Moms who have questions about Navy life for their kids.



Choose your Username.  For the privacy and safety of you and/or your sailor, NO LAST NAMES ARE ALLOWED, even if your last name differs from that of your sailor (please make sure your URL address does not include your last name either).  Also, please do not include your email address in your user name. Go to "Settings" above to set your Username.  While there, complete your Profile so you can post and share photos and videos of your Sailor and share stories with other moms!

Make sure to read our Community Guidelines and this Navy Operations Security (OPSEC) checklist - loose lips sink ships!

Join groups!  Browse for groups for your PIR date, your sailor's occupational specialty, "A" school, assigned ship, homeport city, your own city or state, and a myriad of other interests. Jump in and introduce yourself!  Start making friends that can last a lifetime.

Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak

All Hands Magazine's mini-documentary series "Making a Sailor": These six videos follow four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Making a Sailor: Episode 1 - "Get on the Bus"

Making a Sailor: Episode 2 - "What did I get myself into?"

Making a Sailor: Episode 3 - "Processing Days"

Making a Sailor: Episode 4 - "Forming"

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor - Episode 5

Making a Sailor: Episode 6 - "I'm a U.S. Navy Sailor"

...and visit - America's Navy and to learn more.

OPSEC - Navy Operations Security

Always keep Navy Operations Security in mind.  In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships."  OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. 

DON'T post critical information including future destinations or ports of call; future operations, exercises or missions; deployment or homecoming dates.  

DO be smart, use your head, always think OPSEC when using texts, email, phone, and social media, and watch this video: "Importance of Navy OPSEC."


Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. There are now tickets issued, and there are no longer parking passes for PIR.

Please see changes to attending PIR in the PAGES column. The PAGES are located under the member icons on the right side.

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Sub Moms

Welcome to the deep, silent world of submarines!  If you're new to this world, start by reading the "Pages" of info found in the right-hand column, below the strip of member avatars.

We welcome your questions.  But, while you're here, maintain silence... don't slam doors or the lid on the toilet!


Group Administrator: Kaye S. Kaye S.

Members: 1271
Latest Activity: Sep 12




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These articles are the "reference library" for moms, ready to answer FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) 24x7 (twenty-four hours, seven days a week).  You may not have to post a question after all!  Thanks, Kaye S.






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Comment by WearsLargeHats on March 20, 2019 at 12:56pm

Our son says his reenlistment chit has been approved, so he will be staying in. They are still working out the terms.

Comment by Kaye S. on February 14, 2019 at 6:34am

Hi, Angela!  Welcome to our deep, dark corner of the Navy!  I'm the Admin for this group, but don't do much since folks here are really well-behaved and polite :-)  I'm a 12-year Sub Mom; my son is stationed in Bremerton, WA, aboard the USS Pennsylvania.

The best source of information for new folks is the "Pages," found to the right, under all the avatars.  These are documents, permanently stored, full of answers to common questions - and some you might not have even thought of yet!

Everyone here loves being helpful, but sometimes answers given aren't true for your sailor's craft or command.  The Pages try to give robust details, covering all situations.  Some of the links may no longer work, since they can change without notice, but overall the info is sound.  Again, welcome!

Comment by Confetti on February 11, 2019 at 1:15pm

Thank you, WearLargeHats & CarlaB, I learned something.

They have money coming out of RTC. Learning to manage money is a key. Most children purchase a computer w/external hard dive. Phones can be taken away. A-School accommodations: 2 beds, 2 desks, mini frig and microwave. Pay attention to mess hall hours. As soon as she get to base try and do the standing guard be early to places/qual.'s. Daily inspections, duty depends upon number of students, every 5 days for duty, base crawls to halt over holidays. Banana Snapple is $1.+ at vending machines also considered the cool drink, this is where most of their money will go. Classes are competitive, encourage your child to be in the top 3 of their class. They pick 3 places. It's a 50/50 chance on your child picks/verses the field need.

Internet is a bitch. If roommate has it try to pay roommate half of their bill to share. Then when roommate leaves pick up internet @ $80.00 mo. Don't forget to end internet bill when you leave school. My child bought a vacuum cleaner to keep room clean then donated upon leaving along with the nerf guns from care packages, tax write off. Other children brought large TV had to figure out how to sell it or get rid of it when assigned to boat. Spread your wing on care packages for holidays or fun. Skype is fun.

Son is Fire Control, VA class. Has duty every 3 days (boat), base Pearl, E3 had the base sleeping as WearLargeHats on base/ground level, changed to a closed off sleeping compartment, common living kitchen room, shared bathroom and on a higher level (12thFloor) at E4 (Petty Officer third class). Can be hard for your child to get rank, when boat is in dry dock. Prepared for an old timer to get rank first. Don't let this depress your child. Takes longer to get Dolphins.

Loves job, has learn to sleep with constant noise, small town w/o stores. Everything needed is taken on deployment. Don't forget to pack chapstick, lotion to combat ashy skin, & moisture in nose for deployment. You dry out. Mail drops are very, very rare only cards. Communication, email can be good or bad, young wives will get communication stopped. Reply's on email state “DO NOT REPLY” means COB (Commander on Boat) read email. Parents & FRG (Family Ready Group) makes halfway boxes-a box from home halfway during deployment, get involved with your child boat. Supplies a long line formed, everything is loaded onto boat, all trash goes off boat, makes a long day for someone who has already had 8 hrs of duty + worked their shift. It sure takes stamina.

Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 4:52pm
Thank you for the information!
Comment by WearsLargeHats on February 9, 2019 at 3:59pm

Welcome Angela!
My son is a Sonar Tech. He enjoys the job but, other than listening to whales and other sea-life, neither confirms nor denies anything else it might involve. The submarine service is fairly secretive. They go somewhere and do something. 
After training, your son will be assigned to a submarine somewhere. There are only like about 7 bases, Guam being the furthest. Once he gets there, he will start the qualification process, which will keep him very busy and typically takes around a year.
There are three types of subs: Fast attack (Los Angeles and Virginia class SSN), Ballistic Missile (Ohio class SSBN), and Guided Missile (Ohio class SSGN). There are also the 3 Seawolf subs that are "special projects" SSNs.
The SSNs typically do 6 month deployments on an 18 month cycle. SSBN and SSGN have two crews that alternate deployments of about 10 weeks. When the boat is in port, your sailor will have a duty rotation so that every 4 days (sometimes 3), he will stay overnight on-board. Other than that, there are regular work hours like any other job. We talk to our son once or twice a week. Of course, when they go out they disappear for weeks at a time. Our longest silence has been about 10 weeks.
If your son is single, he will live on base for about 4 years, or until he makes E5 (Petty Officer 2nd class). Expect housing at the school to be like a modern college dorm with shared bedrooms opening to a common living area. Base housing in the fleet is more like efficiency apartments. Our son's apartment at Pearl was 2 single bedrooms with a common living room and smallish kitchen. I'm not sure if it is different for E3 and below.
Those guys (and gals!) work hard. Everyone's job is critical to the safety and effectiveness of the boat. I am very proud that my son wears the Dolphins of a qualified submariner. It takes grit.

Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 12:03pm
Thank you Carla that is so helpful!!
Comment by CarlaB on February 9, 2019 at 11:56am

Welcome Angela!

My son is SECF as well.  His is FC, which is weapons control.  SECF can be navigation, sonar, or weapons. He left for boot camp on June 28th last year, and is just now starting A-school, so your son will have roughly a year of training before he actually gets to a boat.  

After boot, he will go to Groton, CT for Basic Enlisted Sub School (BESS) and other training, including A-school.  I know they changed the curriculum recently, as my son did ATT (electrical training) as a separate course, and now it is rolled into A-school, so he is actually in holding while his A-school group does the ATT portion that he has already completed.

Once he gets to Groton you will be able to communicate a lot.  He will be able to have his cell phone, just can't have it on him during the day or evening while in class. That will be a very welcome change after boot camp, as communication is extremely limited during boot.

I will allow others with loved ones already on a boat to commend on the communication while underway.  I think it will be very limited.

Comment by Angela on February 9, 2019 at 11:32am
I am brand new to all of this. My son is shipping out to boot camp in July and has decided he wants to be SECF on a submarine. Can anyone give me an idea of what this is like? How often will he be able to contact us? I am excited for him but nervous for me!!
Comment by CSW on January 8, 2019 at 9:57am


Congrats and glad you had that time with your sailor!

Happy New Year!  Here we all go!

Comment by ArchyMom on January 5, 2019 at 1:00am

Hi all, it's been awhile since I was on this page. Since last spring when my sailor left for Guam, he has earned his Dolphins. He was able to come home for Christmas this year, which will be the last time for a few years. I had to laugh and share B'sNukeMoM's cartoon with him because he had a few fart stories to tell... too funny. Hope all are well.


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