For loved ones and graduates of Ship 5(17) no critics!This is a haven for the above, not for those seeking to attack those in need of support! PLEASE READ THRU MASTHEAD. MANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED HERE!
Please, if you no longer want to be a part of N4M's consider NOT deleting your profile as everything you have ever posted will disappear when you delete it . You can leave a group but don't permanently delete your profile!
JeanneT
Dec 11, 2012
SelenaNM
Dec 11, 2012
colormecrazy
JeanneT my husband isn't getting any mail either :( I sent him his license in a letter so he can take a plane home and I REALLY hope that gets to him. He also only gets to call a couple times a week. 10 minute phone calls- well 9 minute 15 seconds....he doesn't want to risk getting his phone privileges taken away. Good news is his chief said they WILL still be processing people during the holidays (well i'm sure Christmas eve/day don't count) so maybe they will be home before New Years!
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
colormecrazy.....thats good news. about the processing. Yes my sons call this morning was well under 10 minutes. I so do want him to get his mail. What is up with that?????? I send it to ship 5.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
wow aloha.....are they being punished? They didn't do anything wrong.
Dec 11, 2012
colormecrazy
He told me everyone around him gets letters. I hate to think he gets to sit there wondering if I'm even writing when he sees everyone else receiving letters from their loved ones. This whole thing sounds like punishment. I have to remind him every time we speak that he didn't let anyone down etc. He's a really happy-go-lucky guy, and hearing him starting to get depressed is really really hard.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
I told my son this morning when he called that I write him every day. I have only missed one day but his brother sent him one on that day instead.
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
Hi all, JeanneT our son went to ship5 last tuesday and he said that he received letters I sent. Not sure if he received them friday or saturday.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
I am serious....I want World News Tonight to investigate the way this place is being run. This so called government establishment is ridiculous. I am completely astonished.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
glorann. do they only get it once a week.
Dec 11, 2012
colormecrazy
glorann1978 did your son get to see legal today? any word on that?
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
No word from him at all. soooo we are all kinda in a somber mood tonight.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
understandably so glorann.
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
jeannet i am not sure. those were the first letters that were sent and they were sent to ship 5. we didn't ask him yesterday if he received any other letters. i can say we have only received 1 phone call.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
glorann. you all facebook though right? I wrote my son to try that if he has an opportunity.
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
yes we do facebook a lot. it's really funny because my husband, our daughter and i are generally all facebooking at the same time. my husband thinks that's why he doesn't call. he can speak well write to us all at the same time rather than just speaking to maybe one of us.
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
just wish he would have been able to tell us what happened with legal today
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
glorann....tomorrow for sure. please let us know what happened at legal when you talk/FB.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
I will be aged about 7 more years by the time this nightmare ends. I have never experienced this amount of constant stress.
Dec 11, 2012
glorann1978
i hear ya jeannet. it is time for root therapy again haha. we will let you know what happened. i am out, need to get up early. y'all have a goodnight. will be praying for our kids and also for the parents.
Dec 11, 2012
JeanneT
lol. youre all in mine as well ..... all day long.
Dec 11, 2012
TxNavyDad
Good morning all! Well let's see how coherent I can be without any coffee yet...
As my wife said yesterday, we did not hear from our son or chat with him on FB so we don't know about legal or if he even got there. I'm thinkin he did since we did not chat with him. However, IF he did get to legal, then according to what I believe sixftblnd posted, it was 4 days before she heard anything from her son.
OH HELL NO!!! THAT is not the straw that broke the camels back, IT IS the WAIT (get it?...wait=weight) that broke the camels back....or in this case, my back.
Ok I just read my dribble and can plainly see... I NEED COFFEE!! :O
Be back in a few... Have a great day ladies. Our family is keeping y'all in prayer.
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
Ahhh... ok. Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes my total recall is not so total!!
Anyway, I hope we hear something today. This waiting crap is killing me. Especially when we are so used to chatting with him on FB.
As I said..."The wait that broke the camels back..."
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
I KNOW!! I'm afraid to go anywhere and do anything other than hang out at the house drinking coffee waiting for the phone to ring or for the FB alert tone telling my son is on FB. It's amazing how all this lack of communication, frustration and worry can turn a normally stable, focused strong as a rock mentally, focused person into a totally confused, unstable, babbling pile of rubble.
Talk about mind control!!! I know I sure as heck have lost control...
Dec 12, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... He went to S5 on Dec. 3rd.
@Jeanne... I don't have a clue and neither does my son. The ONLY thing they told him was that it had to do with an admin issue and that's all they said. I don't know if was if a recruiter screw up or what... only that it was an admin issue, which can and does encompass a HUGE area of what could have gone wrong and where the responsibility lies. I have my suspicions, especially since I have not had any phone calls returned I placed, but I won't say anything until I know for sure.
So... As soon as we know, I guarantee you, y'all will know.
Thanks very much for the care and concern.
Dec 12, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
::::UPDATE:::: WOOOHOOO!!!
Just chatted briefly with our son. He got to see legal yesterday and found out what the problem is. His college transcripts were unofficial and so he had to put on his paperwork high school grad even though he had college credits. They told him he can reenlist in 6 months, but MUST have his OFFICIAL college transcripts. Seems to me that his recruiter should have known this, but what do I know.
He said that legal told him he should be home in time for Christmas. He said that he should know more about his departure time next week sometime.
WOOOHOOO!!!!!
When Johnny comes marching home HURRAH HURRAH....
Thanks to everyone for all your prayers and support. You all are truly the family we never had, but now are so blessed to have. Thank again everyone!!
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... RE3
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... correction... RE-1
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... maybe I'll get this straight yet... RE-3E
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@sixft... I hear ya sister... your preaching to the choir. I kinda feel the recruiter dropped the ball also. He knows what documents he needs and should make sure they are all correct to avoid this mess.
The paper trail as it were was jacked up and yes, my son had to pay for it, even though it was not his fault. To be totally honest, as pissed as I am right, I'm VERY surprised I am as calm as I am. My wife can attest to that. Normally I would be over at his recruiters desk pounding on his desk asking for answeres... but... my son is an adult, and if he decides to reenlist, I don't want to act like an idiot and possibly ruin any chances he may have at reenlistment. Believe me, when I get hot, "Katie, bar the friggen door!!"
So, know I am focusing on him being home for Christmas.
I told my wife that what each of us (wife, daughter and me) needs to do is, go to the store and find a very special stick on bow, special to each of us. Then on Christmas morning, when my son wakes up to open presents, we all go to him and put our bows on him and tell him that he is our best Christmas present EVER!!
(Pass out the Kleenex ;D)
Dec 12, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
I'm pretty torqued as well. My son had made a life changing decision and SOMEBODY found it necessary to try and take the fast road and it ended up biting my son, not the guy who bungled things up.
Anyway, that's all behind us know. Lesson learned for the future should he decide to reenlist.
Reenlistment still remains to be seen and we are not going to pester him about it, just let him come home, unwind and enjoy the holidays.
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... Some jobs ARE guaranteed, such as a Linguist and as I understand it, they do not need a waiver since the job is guaranteed. BUT... we will see...
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
AGAIN... Thanks to all our Navy family for your caring support and prayers. I know for one, I was getting pretty weak today. Starting to crumble since we still had not heard from our son.
THEN... SHAZAAAAMM SGT. CARTER!!! He chats on FB and we find out allot of super good info.
So... yuk-yuk... we will be bbqin and partyin' like it's 1999 once number 1 (and only) son gets home!!
YEEEE--- HAWWWWW!!!!
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Aloha... You are so right! It really makes you reevaluate what blessings are and how many we really do have each and everyday! One thing is for sure and you kinda said this (I'm probably just rearranging the words), but this site and the families in it are not only the real deal, but a real blessing. Each of us has a slightly different focus on what we all are going thru, for different reasons and perceptions, which when all put together, not only shows allot of wisdom from all combined, but puts us all in a position to be real with each other and offer true caring, compassionate support.
If it weren't for this site and my awesome wife, I would have been a serious basket case along time ago.
As the old saying goes... "Behind every great man Is an even greater woman." That's not just a saying, but the God's honest truth.
So here's to all the greater woman on here!!
Salute!!
You guys rock!!
In the words of Guns and Roses... "Welcome to the Jungle!"
Dec 12, 2012
Robynkm
TxNavyDad, That is the same re-enlistment code they gave my son...... over a piece of paper. He didn't have a medical waiver for MRI done in 2009. We were never told he needed one. We talked to the recruiter to make sure all the i's were dotted & t's crossed & next thing we know he calls saying he is being sent home. I don't know how I am feeling about the Navy, for me this has been very hard time. I really thought getting him home would be the end of it, but I find myself crying almost every day. Our, yes I said our dreams have been dashed due to a stupid piece of paper. My son puts on the brave face & says everything is going to work out, he is working on the medical wavier he has to have, but I am not sure he will go back. He had a bright future & now what? He would have finished BC & would be in A school right now. As you can see it hasn't been a good day for me. I think these recruiters should get a dock in pay if a recruit is sent home because of errors like this, that would make sure they did everything right. They do have to get a waiver from the Navy so that they can re-enlist, I think they should be taken back no matter what, it wasn't their fault. But it is the government!
Dec 12, 2012
JeanneT
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Robyn... I'm sorry you are having hard days. With respect to the recruiters, I think you are being to nice. My outlook on that issue is, if a recruit is sent home due to a recruiter's obvious error, he gets demoted 1 rank. If he was Petty Officer 1st Class for example, he gets demoted to PO2nd. If it happens again, he goes down another rank. The 3rd time, he is no longer a recruiter.
If the govt were to operate THAT strictly with their recruiters, allot of money and time would be saved thru the whole recruiting process. Not to mention the emotional wear and tear on our kids and parents.
Dec 12, 2012
TxNavyDad
YEEEEE HAWWWWW!!!
We just received 2 letters from our son!! <WHEW> Was sweating that... we had written quite a few and hadn't received any responses until now.
Going to read the letters!!
Dec 13, 2012
cpursley
Dec 13, 2012
cpursley
Dec 13, 2012
TxNavyDad
@CP... What day did your son get legaled (our son says that's what they call it if you have been to see legal)? The fact that you have not heard from your son yet, maybe is that he is running around like crazy trying to get everything completed so he can leave. That would be my impression. Our son got legaled Tuesday if memory serves correctly. He said he was looking at leaving next week possibly according to legal. But as we all know, the paperwork goes from legal to the CO to sign off. Hopefully the CO gets a mind set off wanting his desk cleared and signs everything on his desk so our men can can come home.
@sixft... That was very good advise you gave your son. NOW... keep that leather whip wet on the end and pay the recruiter a visit every week and CRACK THAT WHIP LADY!!! Let a little moisture fling off the tip of that wet leather and make a believer out that recruiter that you mean business or he won't have any hide left to sit on for a month or so!!
Then, strap yourself in and get ready to ride the U.S.S RollerCoaster one mo time!!
And remember... we all are right hear with ya...
"Please keep all hands and feet inside the car at all times."
R E A D Y ? ?
3 - 2 - 1 . . . W H O O O S S S H H H h h>>> . . . H O L Y C R A p p p.......
Dec 13, 2012
Melissa (ship 5 SEP)
Dec 13, 2012
cpursley
Dec 13, 2012
Melissa (ship 5 SEP)
Dec 13, 2012
TxNavyDad
@Melissa... Well, keep on holdin on... you're bound to hear something soon if he was legaled that long ago. According to my son he won't know the date he's leaving until 1 or 2 days before his actual departure date.
We are holding on also. We got to chat with him on FB yesterday for about 2 mins (literally). They didn't give him any computer time (at least I don't consider 2 mins "time").
And today, we have not heard from him at all. :(
But we did get 2 letters...
Dec 13, 2012
colormecrazy
I wonder if they got in trouble today, I haven't heard from my husband either. I am praying he gets to see legal tomorrow, that would be his 7th day. Maybe he will be home right after Christmas...it really doesn't even feel like the holidays at this point. :(
Dec 13, 2012
cpursley
Dec 13, 2012