Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • DieselLady

    @Elizabeth my sailor graduates friday!
  • Elizabeth

    That's great! Congrats! I can't wait for that day, I hope it goes fast until then!
  • Anti M

    My guess on the wallet is he got confused during the in processing stress and chaos.  Or maybe he had a newer RDC who isn't up on the rules.  It happens.

    Everything has to fit in a sock, or they can't keep it.  If he had stuff he needed in it, did that come back too?  You can mail stamps and calling cards and such if he needs those.

  • Elizabeth

    All of the stuff in it that he needed is not in there, so he kept that there somewhere
  • brittanyrmc

    If me and my boyfriend were to get married during his FRAC, would he be able to eventually live off of base with me?

  • Anti M

    Eventually, yes, once he gets to his permanent duty station.  During aircrew training, probably not.  

  • Elizabeth

    Hello all, I need some advice. I'm feeling down because I keep seeing that people are getting their form letters from their SR that shipped on 12/3. My fiancé shipped that date and I have no received the letter :( do I continue to wait or should I call his recruiter and see if I can get info? Thanks in advance!
  • Anti M

    His recruiter won't have details about what is happening at RTC.  Just because others shipped on that date does not mean they are on the same exact timeline, some may have gotten straight into divisions, while others are waiting for their division to fill up.  Also, a lot depends on where you live in the US, can take an extra three days for mail to hit some states ... and the postal service is really busy this time of year.  Just be patient a little while longer.

  • frog12

    Elizabeth, my boyfriend also shipped out on 12/3, and neither I nor his mother have received letters yet either. We are hoping that today they will have some free time to write since it is a Sunday, and that it will be coming sometime this week! 

  • Anti M

    Word on the bootcamp group seems to be a lot of the form letters are running late.

    http://navyformoms.com/group/bootcampmoms

  • Elizabeth

    Thanks everyone!
  • Texasmom

    Anyone have ex poo erience with husband going to a school, and process of wife moving there . I know the sailor has period of restriction to base till phase up to go off base etc. But at what point can wife move there, get into base housing if they have it avail at that A school, or get apartment etc. And what depth 9f navy does wife and or sailor speak wth to take xare of moving spouse to a school location, or check to see if base housing avail etc
  • Texasmom

    Pardon typos!! Experience
  • Lovemysailor

    Texasmom,
    Normally wives cannot move down for their Sailor a school. It depends how long the school is which if it more than 6 months they can move. I moved for my husband A school but into an apartment and not base housing since it is their school aND they cannot move off base or live with spouse. So I moved myself and see him when he is on liberty
  • Anti M

    The A school must be longer than 20 weeks to authorize a dependent move.  Does not include hold times.  It will say on his orders if that is the case.  He needs to talk to his COC (chain of command) about Live Ashore, because he needs to put a packet in to get permission.  If authorized, he contacts Personal Property Office about moving their stuff, and after she travels there, it may be possible to be reimbursed.  She may have to drive, as the Navy doesn't move cars, and he probably has to have transportation to get brown bagger/live ashore.

    Housing is not always available, only nukes and AECF tend to get it.  She'll need to rent a place.

    He hits phase two liberty in about a month an can put in for live shore then, IF it is allowed.  MOST A schools are not long enough.  Nuke, AECF, SECF, and maybe DLI language school  are the ones I know off the top of my head.  There may be more.  I know one in Pensacola is long enough on paper, but they are strict.  

  • Bronco14

    Yeah, spouses moving for a school isn't likely, but I don't think it's 6 months it is anything over 20 weeks isn't it? My boyfriend's A school is only 19 weeks, and I remember it being just one week short of the moving requirement. I am moving there on my own anyway, and will see him while he is on liberty.
  • NavyWifey12

    Does anyone know how long it takes to move once your sailor gets their orders and goes to check in at their command? Does it take weeks or months? I'm on his orders
  • Anti M

    You usually go right away.  The Navy prefers "concurrent travel" with dependents, meaning the sailor comes home on leave and picks you up.  It is actually problematic for a married sailor to show up without their family; they have to pay to stay in the barracks, or they are stuck on the ship.  With dependents, they stay in the lodge for ten days while looking for a place to stay.  His command can approve ten days of house hunting time, essentially free leave after he checks in, if they know he's married and is accompanied by a spouse.  Sometimes they do not give it, but many do.  Catch is, you have to be with him to get it.

  • Jenni1453

    I moved for my husband's school. AECF. The process is pretty fast. He should talk to CPC. As far as moving to a duty station, that can happen anytime. Husband has orders to report March 1st. We talked to Household Goods and set up our move. They gave him a number of days to travel. The Navy will move our things and we'll drive to the new command.
  • Texasmom

    My son is SECF, so long enough, I believe. I wonder if there is someone to contact to try and learn the process they will need to go thru so they don't have to just wait and not know her plans, until after he gets to A school .
  • Texasmom

    Cpc is ??? Love my sailor and bronco, yall moved yurselves to A schl. So just drove or flew there, looked for apartment? Stayed in hotel while looking? Did yur husband's help in apt on liberty time or yu just take care of it all.
  • Anti M

    Does she have a copy of his orders?  No one will talk to her without the information on those.  Also, they may not be helpful until he is actually a sailor.  

    She can stay in the Navy Lodge there while looking for a place. He will not be given much time off to do so, as he has to follow the school's liberty policies.  He has to apply to live with her, usually once he reaches phase two.  That's about a month after he gets there.  The school will instruct him how and when to get her there.

     It is different than when he is going to his first command.  Then, she just goes with him right away.

  • Anti M

    Good to know! The policy changes from time to time, and from training command to training command.  Anyone done this in Groton?

  • Texasmom

    Feylinameir, when yu say get approved by his ship, do yu mean his ship at bc?
  • Texasmom

    And faylinameir, where's yur husband going to A school
  • Jenni1453

    You are approved by the ship at A school. You can start the live ashore process as soon as you get there, but he cannot actually move until phase 2. At least that's the case at GL. Only the sailor can start the process of live ashore unless he has given someone else power of attorney. I couldn't arrange for our move until I had one, even though we are married.
  • Jenni1453

    Alexa, he can get a copy of his page 2 if he logs into BUPERS.
  • Bronco14

    I am getting ready to move to his A school within the next few weeks. I looked online heavily for an apartment, and my boyfriend went and visited the one I chose during the weekend while on liberty. He was shown around, loved it, and we went from there. The aparment mm complex is perfect because they offer short term leases and everything can be completed online. I will be driving there. Not with much, to keep the expenses low. Plus, I don't need a lot since we won't be there for long. Also, this site had very little encouragement for me to move to A school by myself... but I'm so happy I've made the decision to do so. It was what was right for my sailor and I. So don't let your son's wife be discouraged if she wishes to do the same! It is totally possible.
  • Jenni1453

    Erica, it's not always that the recruiters lie. Things change constantly in the Navy, and vary by command. Sometimes they are just misenformed. If he needs a chit it will probably be approved with no issues. I wouldn't worry. Have him talk to his command first thing tomorrow though. Stand down begins Friday, and any chit will have to be turned in tomorrow to have a chance.
  • Texasmom

    Bronco thanks for sharing yur experience. Really aporeciatebit. Wishing yu the best.
  • Texasmom

    And jenni, thank yu too for feedback. All of Yalls info has been helpful!!!
  • Anti M

    Here's the thing with the marriage chits... they cannot be denied unless the marriage is not legal.  Training commands do make them turn in chits so they can be counseled and advised about dependents rights and responsibilities, and to screen for fraudulent marriages for the money.  
    However, lots of sailors marry on leave without the chit.  I have never heard of one being punished, although technically, they could be.  Will he get chewed out?  No doubt.  Will he lose his school?  No.  I'm not sure if they still give student evals, and he'll want those to be high so he gets a better shot at order picks.  Maybe.  But no captains mast or official punishment has been reported anywhere I have seen, and we would hear about it.  But try marrying without the chit while at Great Lakes, not on leave, and they will hand the sailor their ass for disobeying orders.  It is a fine line.  

    In Japan, I did deny a marriage chit, but somehow we got a sailor who was 17.  No way we'd let her marry a guy she knew for three weeks.  There's a reason the Navy makes them wait until they are 18 now!  She did marry when she turned 18, but it was a different guy.  We begged her not to, and we were right, but legally could not say no.  

    Every training command expects a handful of sailors to return from stand down with a marriage certificate in hand. 

  • Anti M

    Also, recruiters rarely lie outright.  They often do not know current A school policy.  They know fleet policy.  And in the fleet, no permission would be needed.

  • Bronco14

    Hoosier, I absolutely agree. However, each situation is so different. My sailor did not come straight from bootcamp, so him and I have been apart for quite some time... I have also just finished college so do not have anything holding me down in any one specific place, therefore my life is not being uprooted :) moving for A school isn't best for every couple, but it is best for some :)
  • Chanteale

    Does anybody know whether the navy pays to have furniture and things of that nature shipped to wherever my husband is stationed or do we have to pay out of pocket?
  • Jenni1453

    They'll pay to move him to his command, and you if you're on his orders.
  • Chanteale

    Thank you Jenni1453
  • Chanteale

    I finally got my DEERS form but sadly no written letter
  • Boms_wife

    Quick question, when does the Tricare coverage begin? O just got my military ID yesterday. Does it begin after your spouse adds you on DEERS or does it start after you get your ID?
  • Eva M

    Hello! So not sure if this has happened to anyone but I'll try to see if anyone can help me or give me advice. The Friday after my husband left for boot camp he called me stating he needed a "clear and complete copy of my photo ID" sent to him ASAP. He said the recruiters would know what I was talking about. Went in there and copied the ID and sent it to him, only for him to call the 12th saying it needed to be stamped and signed, and that the recruiters can do it, only to find out they can't and that it needed to be done at MEPS which is 4 hours away. So once that got completed I 2-Day shipped a certified copy to him which would have gotten there the 18th. To date I still have not received DEERS and now our BAH, etc. is suddenly not included in his paycheck, making it hard to pay bills and save for the upcoming move. Has this happened to anyone else? His PIR date is 1/22.
  • Jenni1453

    I don't have experience with this, but I do know that even priority mail can take 5 days to reach him. Once it gets to base, it needs to be sorted by people there, so it adds some days. You can call Tricare and give them your husband's social and they'll be able to tell you if you've been enrolled in DEERS. Also, your move will be paid for by the Navy. You'll also be given a dislocation allowance to help with the costs. If money is short before you move, your husband can ask for an advance on the DLA. Hope you hear something soon.
  • Eva M

    That's my hope. A lot of things aren't adding up and there's no way for me to contact him, which adds to the stress. We're over halfway to him being finished and I can't get anywhere with the process. But at least that means he may have either just received it or things are just lagging. The BAH thing totally through me for a loop though. Thank you!
  • JulyLove

    I know exactly what you are going through, the same thing is happening to me now and I don't know what to do. The recruiter said he sent in the proper documents stamped and notarized, but my husband said he hasn't received anything yet. I knew it might take a minute for him to get it but it's been two weeks already and still nothing. I still haven't gotten the DEERS paper and I'm scared the Paycheck won't be as it should be.
  • Anti M

    First checks can be small. From for ID shows up around week three.Yes, you are probably in DEERS already, which means Tricare too. BAH can be odd, either shows up right away or takes a couple pay cycles. Also, you can have a notarized copy of anything made at your bank or CU, doesn't have to be MEPS.
  • Anti M

    Holidays might be holding things up too.
  • AlphasWife16

    I am so excited! My Fiance just got his orders this morning and all of the prayers paid off! He is coming to San Diego!!!!!! 

  • Eva M

    That's so irritating! Gotta love it. Our first paycheck was larger than we had thought it would be. And now this one is base pay alone or at least that's what it looks like. The recruiters even said the varification of my ID absolutely HAD to be at MEPS and couldn't be notarized anywhere else. I ended up having to give them the only photo ID I have for 2 days. Once/If they ever get this squared away do you think they'd pay us back or would they just start the BAH back up once they fix everything? Things are going to be tough if this is going to be the new norm.
  • Eva M

    Sadly I don't just yet. So I won't have a way of knowing.
  • AlphasWife16

    Does anyone have a loved one on the USS America in San Diego?  

  • darkvirgo9586

    Hello all! My sailor is graduating from bootcamp in about a week and a half. He is hinting towards marriage in his letters. How long is the process for the Navy to approve the marriage?