Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Brenda

    @nicole no i didn't and this is the second week it happens and last time I got them on Saturday :) so I think it will be the same tomorrow
  • NavyGirlfriend

    My boyfriends PIR is on the 25th of this month and he's on his 4th week I think & ugh im so relieved. I'm really hoping I get a letter tomorrow I was really freaking out yesterday & today. I usually would get his letters on like Thursday or Friday
  • Brenda

    @nicole yeah I usually get them on Thursday so the first time I was freaking out but my husband's PIR in a week from today so I'm super excited! I can't wait
  • NavyGirlfriend

    Wow the mail system sucks well hopefully you get a letter tomorrow and so do I (: because I haven't talked to him in so long .. I miss him so much and this sucks you know? You must be really excited to see your husband! It's going to be the best feeling when you hug him again !
  • proudwife2015

    @engagedtoanavysailor i hate to say this but basic training is going to be easier than a deployment. Think of this as your practice. Also you should tell him when things go wrong. He wants to hear everything. When my husband was in boot camp he said reading letters was an escape and even if it was bad he would want to hear it. I wouldn't write sad stuff every day but know he wants to hear it all :)
  • Anti M

    When you don't get a letter, stay positive.  As the loved ones in their lives, they are missing you very much, and you are important to them.  They are only allowed to write letters on Sundays, and you never know, maybe they had watch, or had their wisdom teeth out and are sleeping it off over the weekend.  Maybe the letter got lost in the mail.  They aren't going to get upset over some little thing in your letter!

    Also, a standing hint: if your SR is writing after hours on other days, never post about it here.  You never know who is reading, and you never know who is going to ask their SR "why don't you do that?" and it gets back to the RDC and they all get punished.  

  • EngagedToANavySailor

    @Proudwife Yeah I understand but I had already told him I wasn't going to get him worried or upset about me he's very protective and very caring so by me being pregnant that's the least thing I wanna do because he will lose complete focus ion want that to happen .But yeah I know this just getting me ready for the harder days I hate it but at the same time I'm proud of him for trying to continue to reach his goals
  • Sophia

    Has anyone applied for fssa? If so, if we live on-base do we include our bah amount on the application? I want to make sure we fill it out correctly, and I told my husband to double check with his fssa counselor because putting the bah amount or not putting it makes all the difference of whether we'll be approved or not! Also, if anyone is familiar with applying for SNAP benefits in CA being military. Which one would be better to apply for?
  • Michael

    I am sorry if this comes out wrong but I have issue with healthy Americans applying for fssa and snap. Get your but off the sofa and get a job. My husband is in the military I have a full time job and have a 3 year old. I am sorry but that stuff is intended for people who can't work because they are severely disabled and I look at that as theft in my eyes. If you can walk with no issues and sit and watch tv you can work. My family will not be stealing from the government because we work and provide for our family
  • Sophia

    You sound completely rude and out of line. I worked over 40 hours before my husband joined the military and we lived on two incomes because he also worked and we have a 3 and 5 year old. I have never used it before that's why I asked out of curiosity how it works. I left my job to move across the country to support my husband. So the assistance would help until I transfer my license to our new state to begin working. If it was theft then I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be offered exactly for military families
  • Anti M

    http://download.militaryonesource.mil/12038/MOS/EFMP/SNAP-Document.pdf

    Military Pay: If you reside on an installation, your housing will not be counted when computing eligibility. It will be treated as an in-kind benefit for income eligibility purposes. If you receive Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) and reside off the installation then your BAH will be included as income when computing eligibility and will count against you.

  • Anti M

    Hey, don't judge, because you don't know their situation.  In some areas, childcare is so expensive that a job doesn't even cover that.  I have working members of my family on SNAP, they cannot seem to do better no matter how hard they try. And not every disability is visible, or can be judged by apparent short term mobility.  If they qualify with truthful applications, then they are not stealing.  Those services are there for a reason, there are limits and qualifications so no one can abuse the system very long.  Very junior sailors with dependents often struggle.  I do not mind feeding children, I donate to food banks and the local on base Airman's Pantry (AF).  I know my brother had to use food stamps when he was active duty and got hit with unexpected financial emergencies.  I was on food stamps myself long ago for one summer.  Most people only use such benefits for as long as it takes to get their shit together.

    You do not know if she is healthy or not.  Please be kind in this forum, and save the rants for general discussion.  

  • Sophia

    Yes Anti M, we are paying more than double in daycare now on a military installation. I totally agree with you.
  • Anti M

    Thanks, I need a boost now and then.  Because I have learned a lot of the rules, I often have to tell excited young people, "no, that is not the way it works".   I feel like an evil dream crusher.  I would also like to smack around a few recruiters.

    Have a great weekend, everyone!

  • EngagedToANavySailor

    I printed my fiance some pics I was wondering if it was OK to send him or what just wondering
  • EngagedToANavySailor

    Thankyou I didn't want to get him in trouble but they respectable pics lol I also put a few funny 1s in there as well
  • 18gf

    does anyone know if I will get another call before graduation? my SR graduates on 3/18
  • Allison

    18gf he/she will usually call after completing Battle Stations 21,which can mean they call between a week and I've seen on here as late as a day before their anticipated graduation, for me it was two days before, and whether they pass or fail they will still be allowed to notify their families.
  • Allison

    I was curious if anyone out there had a sailor who began to show symptoms of depression after leaving the recruit training command and trying to adjust back to "normal" life. I've tried to keep him really positive, I'm working on his first care package with some of his favorite foods and some pictures, and I set up a surprise group video call last weekend after he graduated, but he still seems very down. I think part of it is that his friends that are still in college are starting to go on spring break, and he's on hold for 2 months at Great Lakes (he's ET), so he doesn't have a lot to do. He seemed happier when he finally found people to leave the base with and go into Chicago, but I'm worried about how he's going to handle things during the week when he doesn't have school yet and can't leave the base. I was curious if anyone on here had similar experiences and what resources they knew about that I could suggest to my sailor when he starts to talk about these feelings. Of course, I don't mind being the person he always calls, but I can't always relate, and I want to make sure I'm giving the right advice and that he's getting the right kind of help. Is there anyone who has been at this for awhile and has some insights?
  • 18gf

    do they have extra free time on Easter???
  • Allison

    He's under the impression he won't be doing anything during the week, but I'm glad to hear they'll start to keep him busy doing something during the week now that he's done with indock. I think he feels a little useless right now because he's not training in boot camp anymore but he's not jumping into his studies right away. If they're going to make him clean and stuff, I'm sure it won't be long before he feels useful again…and then, I'll start getting calls about how he misses having nothing to do haha. We're both pretty fast paced people and like to keep busy and take on lots of new challenges. I can tell that it's really hard for him to be just hanging around. I suggested he volunteer himself more around the base if possible, and he talked about a group that actually does volunteer work off base on the weekend, so hopefully that helps him too. If things don't pick up though, do they have access to counseling on base? I've heard people avoid it because too many problems and you end up separated, but is it really that bad?
  • Anti M

    Once upon a time, I was on hold at Great Lakes for ET A school.  This time of year at Glakes is cold, dull, grey and depressing.  Cleaning only takes up so much of your time, and then you have to make do with what is on base.  It sucks, plain and simple.

    He needs to understand that this begins to mirror some of the real Navy.  Cleaning, boredom, and hurry up and wait is very much what sailors deal with, as day to day life in the service. The Navy is rarely exciting outside of combat zones.  Even deployments with long days of shifts, training, drills and work  have a lot of drudgery.  Recruiters never tell you this as it is not glamorous.  

    What to do?  For you, stay encouraging.  He is still doing his part, even if it is boring and depressing.  

    For him?  Stay positive, he is being paid, fed, and housed, more than what a lot of people get in today's world.  He needs to take this into his hands.  Go to the gym, get moving.  Participate in the MWR single sailor activities, even f he thinks they're cheesy and silly.  See if he can get his hands on his PQS stuff for advancement and work on it early.  Make the trek to the movie theater, get OUT of the barracks.  If things are bad, talk to a chaplain.  They are totally confidential, not religious unless he wants that, and can help him see the light at the end of the dark tunnel which is hold time at Great Lakes.

  • Anti M

    @18gf ... Easter is not a federal holiday, so the Navy does not give any special time off for it.  They can go to services, unless they have duty, but that is the only special liberty related to a religious holiday.

  • Anti M

    http://usafederalholidays.com/

    Here are the federal holidays for 2016.  Means they get that day off (usually a Monday, except for Thanksgiving/Christmas).  If they do not have duty, they have that day off.  If they are at a training command, they are subject to liberty phase rules.  Even with a three day weekend, they are subject to travel restrictions unless they can take leave or get an out of bounds special request chit approved.  

  • Bronco14

    BAH question... I used the BAH calculator to see how much by boyfriend will be making at his new duty station. If we are married with no children, will he be given the "no dependents" amount or the "with dependents" amount? I don't know if it would consider me a dependent in that case or not. Thanks!!
  • Anti M

    Yes, you would be considered a dependent.
  • abuon18

    Bronco, a spouse is considered a dependent. They get BAH either "with dependents" or "without dependents" but it is not based on number of dependents (a common misconception)
  • Bronco14

    Great, thank you!
  • Lindsey

    what should I send in for a military ID card? My SR just called from BC and said that I need to send in documents for it. Is it just Birth certificate, marriage liscense and photo ID and SS card? does it need to have my current address since I just moved? Should I include pay stubs, mail, etc? Can I photo copy my liscense since I need it to get on base for his PIR? If anyone knows or can tell me any more info of what documents I need it would be appreciated!! Thanks!!
  • Anti M

    Do not send your original documents. Never. Send certified copies. If you can go to the recruiter, they can help with that. If not, go to your bank or credit union, they usually have a notary because loans and such need to be notarized.
  • Anti M

    BC, marriage license, drivers license, and SSN will work.

    I'm surprised the recruiter didn't make sure your SR didn't take all that with him. This will delay your BAH quite a bit if he has no proof he has a dependent. Someone slipped up.
  • Lindsey

    Yeah I'm not too sure what happened. I know my daughter didn't have any problems, but there's been a bit of a struggle getting me on there. Am I able to photo copy my liscense and get that notorized?
  • Anti M

    Yes, you can get it copied.

  • Anti M

    I have never had, or seen, a Tricare card.  Your military ID is your insurance card.  Check the FAQ on their website, see what they say.

  • Bronco14

    I have a Tricare card. It never seems to do much at the doctors office though, because it doesn't have very much info on it. I always have to give them my sponsor's SSN anyway.
  • Kara

    Having such a rough day, still have not heard anything from my boyfriend and I feel like I'm going nuts .. :/
  • WifeofaUSsailor

    Hang in there Kara! Is your boyfriend in boot camp? Their phone calls can depend on how their division is doing as a whole.
  • Allison

    Thank you to those of you offered your insight about helping my sailor life his spirits. He's been in a much better mood after getting to play games with fellow sailors inbetween their cleaning responsibilities. I have two new questions for you guys now.

    1) My fiancé and I are preparing to officially tie the knot. I asked him to do the classes first if possible just to be sure he's ready to do it now. I've also been receiving some religious premarital counseling. It was something we originally intended to do together, but this is Navy life haha. Anyway, our only issue is that people have been waiting for us to finally have our wedding for awhile now, but we are interested in having a legal wedding first to get the ball rolling and one day in the future when his schedule allows, having some kind of anniversary party for our friends and family. I was curious if anyone on here has done something similar and how you managed announcing your marriage to people who were expecting to attend a ceremony. At this point, our parents are the only people we're including in our plans, so I'm worried it will be a shock to everyone else that we went ahead and got married without them. Advice?

    2) In Navy housing, I've read at most stations it's typically 2 pets/home, and at least for Great Lakes, the community handbooks provide the rules for changing litter for cats. I'm curious if anyone knows if outdoor cats are allowed? It would be nice to hear from all your experiences, even if they are not specific to Great Lakes because in my experience, moving is stressful enough on a pet, I don't want to be constantly changing their living habits as well. Our cats are just about to have their first outdoor experience when it gets a little warmer and they are big enough to defend themselves. However, if there's going to be times where they will be required to be indoor cats, I would prefer to avoid confusing them and keep them as indoor cats.
  • amber02888

    @Allison my husband and I got married while he was in A School (way easier for us when it came time to moving). There's a "Texas Twogether" program that has an online option - that's what we did prior to the courthouse ceremony. It was self paced so we worked it around the intensity of his study schedule. Don Lang is who married us and he was amazing. We're doing our big ceremony/con-validating our wedding in our church for our 1 year anniversary. Message me if you have any questions :)

    As far as question 2, we put down 1 dog on our app and when we adopted 1 we didn't have to update it. They don't check up on pets unless they cause issues from what I've seen so far (we've lived in base for like 5 months)
  • Anti M

    Outdoor cats will depend on the rules at different places. Having moved with cats, from Japan to San Diego, to Utah, it is best to turn them into indoor cats after the move. They get stressed and confused and may try to go "home".
  • Anti M

    As for marriage, just do it and send a nice hand written card to the people who will want to know. No matter what you do, someone will be upset or tactless. Do what is best for you.
  • 18gf

    I have no idea what to wear to graduation next Friday 3/18! I'm stressing out I don't want to be over or under dressed
  • Allison

    Anti M, you are an absolute angel on this site. I feel like I can always trust your answers, so for now, it's indoor life for my two kitties. 

    I figure no matter what, someone will get upset like you said. I understand why, while we signed up for this life when he enlisted and had time to adjust to it, our friends and extended family didn't get a choice, and I don't think anyone really knows what to expect, especially since it's different for everyone. For example, some of my fiancé's friends were upset when he didn't come back to visit after basic like another one of their friends that is in the military was able to do. Anyway, I think your handwritten card idea is a great one. We had debated a formal announcement, but I think even a short handwritten note on each of them will help people understand that we still love and respect them enough to send more than a mass printed announcement. 

  • Allison

    18gf you can't really be either over or underdressed unless you show up in a ballgown or bathrobe. There's a wide variety of outfit choices. I picked out a nice dress that I dressed down with more basic accessories. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that it's really cold. I could have gotten away with wearing a trash bag because I had my coat on the entire time anyway. If you wear tights with a sweater dress, it's not too bad for short periods of time.  A pretty good picture of what people are wearing to PIR is to think about what people around you wore to your college (or high school) graduation...it's a good place to start just remember that it's March in Illinois. They're still getting snow, and it's very windy.

  • 18gf

    that was my biggest thing I know it's cold so I wanted to dress warm .. I was thinking leggings and a nice sweater ? would that be okay?
  • Lindsey

    My SR is in BC right now, and I've been getting letters from him every Wednesday-at least four or five. But he says he's only gotten a few letters from me, and I've been writing him every day to every 2 days. I'm so confused. Is he not getting all my mail and pictures? I have the correct address, and I live about an hr from Great Lakes. I'm just worried he's concerned I'm ignoring him. I'm not too sure what to do.
  • Ashley

    I have never used this before but I don't know anyone that has been in my situation. Someone told me this website could be helpful to me. I'm sure my concerns have been asked about a million times but my significant other was unable to get all of the information we needed before he left for boot camp and now I'm left here wondering while he is gone. I never realized how hard it would be to be away from him. We originally planned to wait at least a year to get married and try to move back in together due to my work but recently I have realized I would prefer to be with him as much or as soon as possible. I know that he will be very busy with school and such but I would like to see him as much as I can. I know there will be a lot of rules. I'm not even sure what all I need to know yet. But I was wondering if anyone could give me advice and answer a few questions for me.
    1. I'm sure you have to wait a little while before you can get married after boot camp. How does that work?
    2. Would we have to live separate for awhile and only see each other on weekends at first?
  • NavyWifeInTraining

    @Lindsey You have to remember it's quicker to send out mail to you than it is for him to receive it because once it arrives at RTC it is sent to the mailroom to be sorted out into the appropriate divisions and ships for EVERY SR. Just imagine how much mail they have to sort daily for every family member that writes letters to their loved ones in bootcamp! He will receive each letter you have sent him with time. What I,would recommend you to do is write the date on the inside of your letter so that he knows when you wrote it and he doesn't think you are ignoring him
  • Brittany

    My boyfriend graduates on 4/1 and I have no clue what to wear either!! Lol
  • Lindsey

    @navywifeintraining you are right-- thank you for the reassurance!! And Brittany, so does my husband! I'm wearing a dress but really
    You can wear whatever, business casual is usually common.