Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Michael

    It depends on his command. Some is two weeks my husband has 8 days when he is done. He would know how much time he would have
  • Allison

    I also want to take time off work, but I can't just disappear without a return date. I'd like to know more about his surgery, the medicines he's on, and his recovery as inpatient and outpatient. Does anyone know how I can get that info? We didn't have a lot of warning or research time beforehand. They just picked him up today to do it, and he barely had time to tell me he was going in before it started.
  • abuon18

    Allison where is he? Boot camp, A school, on a ship?
  • Allison

    He's doing his ATT course at Great Lakes right now
  • Anti M

    Allison, call Great Lakes Public Affairs office, and ask them how to get in touch with medical. 

    http://www.netc.navy.mil/nstc/contact_pao.html

  • Anti M

    @Dezairay ... It depends on the report date on his orders for his new command, and how many days of leave he has earned.  It can be a week or two.  

    Easy to figure out how many days he has available, he earned 2.5  month since he went to boot camp.  But there is no way to know his report date until he sees his orders. 

    Is he going to try to do RAP duty?  He just helps his local recruiter for a few hours for five days, and gets back five leave days when the paperwork goes through.  It really is a good opportunity to grab free leave for later.  

  • Allison

    Fortunately, someone FINALLY called me to tell me that he had trouble waking up completely after the anesthesia. He was out for a good 8 hours after the surgery. He's not feeling great, so they're keeping him overnight, but apparently it's pretty normal to not feel good the longer you're under. I was pretty upset I wasn't notified when he got out, but I understand they probably deal with a lot and notifying a spouse when it's not an emergency case is probably the last thing on their mind. I will definitely save that link though Anti M, it's probably good to have handy in case (although hopefully this never happens) anything comes up again. This incident really sparked us to get moving on our housing paperwork though. Although we understand there will be times when we're separated and can't get to each other when little things go wrong, we also want to get moving on being together while we can, especially since his full recovery is going to take a couple months. Has anyone done housing at GL recently and can give us an idea of how long it takes right now to get it? We can afford some time in a hotel for me or even a short lease on an apartment, but we can't do it more than a month or two, and it would be nice to avoid living out of suitcases while I'm working haha.
  • Michael

    I would call GL you can't move in housing unless he's stationed there for a period of 9 months to a year I think as there are two people with my husband that are there 8 months for training and they're wives had to stay home. They could not move there on base unless they rented there own place. Anti M may know it better. But every situation is different.
  • Bronco14

    Hmm... I don't know about that. I would think any PCS orders (anything over 20 weeks or 6 months) would qualify for base housing. But Anti M would definitely know more!!

  • Michael

    Bronco. It really is dependent on the situation as my husbands good shipmate is in Connecticut for 12 months and his wife could not go with only he could. It does happen. There are orders that do not allow depandants. My father was sent to barain alone with out us and my mom for 16 months. We were not allowed to go. It does happen
  • Allison

    It's not really a question of whether or not I can go. As far as we've been instructed, my husband has a certain date before it's too late to qualify,and as long as the paperwork is in before that, I can be there with him. They love to make it difficult to make the date from the rumors I hear, but his NMTI has been so helpful to us. He has no idea how long the wait is though. We were just curious if anyone might have dealt with housing recently at Great Lakes who could possibly have some insights. He was going to ask around school when he gets out of the hospital, and I thought I'd check on here.
  • Lindsey

    Hi everyone!! Quick question. My husband is hopefully getting soft orders and requesting hard orders, what is the difference? Nervous but excited!!!
  • abuon18

    Soft orders are just verbal orders and don't mean anything, they can be changed. Hard orders are the actual paper orders that let you know where you are going. Once you have hard orders you can start arranging housing, moving, etc. They will have his report by date and he will be able to contact his command once he has those.
  • Anti M

    If he's in ATT, he's probably in one of the schools long enough to be accompanied. If he is AECF, then he is for sure.  He needs to do his live ashore packet.  I haven't seen a recent post, but I do know housing is available enough it is an option for students.  

    Micheal, yes the rule of thumb for accompanied vs. unaccompanied is 20 weeks/6 months, PLUS type of duty station PLUS how the orders are written.  I've been at an isolated duty station myself, where there were zero dependents, not even visitors.  But when we're talking CONUS training commands, it usually is the 20 week rule (except for P-cola, they can be weird).  There are always exceptions, strive to figure out if we're talking situation normal, or damn, that's freaky.  LOL.  

    I spend a lot of time on damn that's freaky.  For example, I can't find a thing on getting married and living with a spouse during language school.  Mixed service bases are always a pain to figure out!  

  • Anti M

    @Lindsey ... pretty much what it sounds like.  We used to cal them verbal orders, because the detailer would tell you over the phone.  The "hard" part comes from "hard copy" orders, a set of physical orders in your hands.  It simple means everything is lined up, the sailor, the command's billet, and the funding.  Hard copy orders have all the details, when to report, how long he will be there, when he rotates out, contact info, whether dependents are authorized, if the move is funded for them, if they need screening, etc.  Soft orders are like a promise ring, hard orders are a marriage.  

  • thinNavyblueline

    Hey all! If my sailor and I were planning on getting married in December, when would he need to start the process of informing his command? I've read about having to put a chit in and taking counseling and things of that nature, but I feel very lost! Thanks!

  • Anti M

    Just a few weeks, between two and four is usually sufficient.  If you are planning on marrying during the holiday stand down, he doesn't really need the chit unless he really wants to take the class.  For those new sailors not familiar with dependents and the military, it actually could be useful.

  • thinNavyblueline

    Great, thanks so much for the information! I'm assuming holiday stand down would be the week of Christmas?

  • Anti M

    Yes, although depending on the training command and how much leave he wants to burn or borrow, the stand down is two weeks.  You can look at a calendar and take a guess at the stop and start days, but never book anything until you  know official dates.

  • Paige

    Are their any Navy Wives in Great Lakes that want to hang out? & Does anyone know about Marriage counseling on base or anything?

  • Anti M

    Marriage counseling would be through Fleet and Family Support Center.  They have a number of classes and programs, and can help you choose the one you need.

    http://www.mybaseguide.com/navy/21-583/ns_great_lakes_fleet_family_...

  • Michael

    It's so hard because I feel the crime maps I look up are very bad. They don't truly show what's going on. I just want good schools for my daughter when she gets old enough.
  • Millispeed

    My fiancé just left for boot camp at meps. Any advice? When should I expect a phone call that he got to boot camp? 

  • Michael

    Millispeed you should get a call sometime today at anytime. Then your next call won't be for at least 3 weeks. As so as you get your form letter with his address you wrote him. You should get that in a week to 10 days depending where you live. My husband told me he loved my letters and it is what kept him going. It will take a toll on you just be strong and know what he is doing is for you and our country.
  • Texasmom

    One of my twin sons went to bc last sept, graduated nov, then to corry for ctn Then his twin brother joined navy, secf, scheduled for shipout next week 5/17.was told at meps that he missed ctn qualifying by 1-2 points in one area on asvap, tho he made higher score than his twin bro, ctn. My son Got called in to recruiters office today by chief, and told navy had put in wrong social security nbr for him and he can't shipout in 7 days, that they've been unable to correct it!? Interesting! Anyway, so they are discharging my son, and he has to go back to meps, retake asvap etc, start all over. Sounds crazy, but , oh well. I am not complaining because my son had actually recently spoke to chief to express his concern and interest in going ctn, rather than secf. Okay, point is, this twin is married and wud appreciate the land based ctn field. My other son joined navy to travel, went ctn at meps, then learned it was land based. Lol
    Soo, future sailor son was encouraged by chief to stick wth secf. But then today encountered this news. Lol
    I've been praying for God's guidance and direction in my son's careers, paths, etc, and particularly wth newly married headed off to busy subs schedules. And then, this news!!! Sooo we are all schocked, yet happy for this opportunity for son to retest and possibly rerate, for what mite be a better path for him. Altho I do admit it all seems a bit concerning that outside of a God thing, that the navy cud screw up like this And not be able to fix it. He's waited past 6 mths for this upcoming day next week and many of us have planned our lives around it.
    Any suggestions!! What best resources to study to enhance asvap svore. He already scored high, qualifying for secf, but wants ctn badly. Also, is there any negotiating room for him at meps? He has said if they don't give him ctn, if he qualifys, that he's gonna go meet wth airforce. Yur thoughts??
  • Anti M

    Whatever your son chooses, it should be what he wants to do for the next fout to sic years.  If he wants to go to sea, pursue sea going ratings.  If he wants CTN, he needs to get an ASVAB study guide (you can buy them online).  He should not choose his day to day job just to avoid going to sea.  This is the Navy, that is what they do.  He should try to choose something he can build a future on, something which interests him.   The Air Force might be a better fit.

  • Loren

    My husband left for bootcamp not that long ago. It was 2 weeks yesterday.. When will I be getting a letter from him? I got the form letter last week.

  • Michael

    Loren I would say you might have to wait another week. When my husband was in I did not get a letter to almost the 3rd week. They only have time to write on Sunday's and if they have watch or chores they can't write. Also if they did not get there letter in on time it will wait for the following week. I know it's hard I have been there but it will get better. Just know you will get 3 phone calls if you get more that's great but minimum is 3. Also you have to remember letters might be short as they also use Sunday to study as if they don't pass they can get held back or get sent home. I just told my husband to bust his ass off and just send a quick note if you can. High test scores are more important then a long letter.
  • Michael

    Anyone know the safest places to live Around or near Norfolk. I have a 3 year old also so a good school is important
  • Loren

    Michael,

    are the 3 phone calls "im here", one in between and "im a sailor"? and I totally agree with you. His tests are important! It would be nice to hear from him though just to know how he's doing. I was really hoping for a letter tomorrow.

  • Anti M

    Those are the three calls.  It is rare, but possible to miss the third week one if they have dental or watch.  Unusual though.  Some get more as rewards, or if they need information for security clearances.  The I'm a sailor call can be nice and long!

  • Millispeed

    Hi guys , my Fiancé just left for boot camp yesterday . He made it there ,I got the call that he made it safe. When should I expect the first letter ?
  • Anti M

    If he sends you the official form letter, that is ten days to a couple weeks.  Personal letters begin in two~three weeks.  They usually write on Sundays, but not during their in processing days.


    http://navyformoms.com/group/bootcampmoms/page/letter-writing-fun-s...

  • Sailorsfish92

    Hello. I was wondering if anything could give me some advice for dealing with my mother in law. She is not very good at setting boundaries and giving me and my fiancé time alone.They seem to consider them as the main event and me as the side show. I feel very left out of planning during graduation plans and am being treated as something not important. Anyone dealt with similar situations and have advice? We have been dating for 5 years so this is not a new relationship.
  • Anti M

    I've never found a good solution, and I've been married 29 years.  My nephew's wife goes through this with her MIL (my SIL).  You can try talking to her, but it may be best if your fiance lays down the law.  He needs to say "I want XYZ amount of time with my fiance, so plan for that".  Let him know in a letter that you need him to stick up for you.  

    That's how I got my MIL to stop calling me by hubby's ex-wife's name for years, he had to tell her to stop, or we'd stay a hotels during visits.  She stopped.  

    Have a good time at PIR, and best wishes for the future.  

  • Bronco14

    Could someone give me some information on Tricare coverage for Reserve sailors and their families? Specifically about coverage for the birth of a baby? I am not expecting a baby lol, just very curious about the difference in coverage between having a child while husband is active duty versus reserve.

  • Megs2447

    PLEASE HELP!! My fiancé just got his orders and they are sending him to Japan. Obviously I'm not on them. Can someone tell me our options?
  • Anti M

    Yes, I can, but you are not going to like it, so I apologize in advance.

    To take a dependent overseas, the sailor must be an E-4 or above.  Dependents must have command sponsorship to get the SOFA visa, and to be eligible for benefits and allowances overseas, plus be able to use base facilities such as medical. All dependents must pass overseas screening.  

    If he is E-4, he can put in a waiver to his command to get command sponsorship for you (You have to be married).  Sometimes this is approved, other times not, all depends on the command budget.  If he is not an E-4, you are not going until he is.  He must have enough time on his tour there to be considered for accompanied, so he may need to extend his overseas tour.

    I have a blog with more details:

    http://navyformoms.com/profiles/blogs/what-is-command-sponsorship

  • Michael

    Anti M is right you have zero options. If you go over there you will have to support yourself you cannot live on base and most likely will not be allowed on base. Even if you get married you still can't go. It's just the way it is. Sorry
  • Bronco14

    Don't mean to butt in here but "zero options" isn't totally right, as I see an option that Anti M just laid out for her. Even when we get news that is difficult to handle, I think it is important we all stay positive and uplifting to one another!

  • Michael

    Bronco they are not married there are zero options. In order to have her go with him first they have to be married. Secondly like Anti M said u less he is a E4 or higher it's next to impossible. My best friend just went to Japan 3 weeks ago as a E 2 and his wife and kids are still back in the states because he is a E2. He will be gone 2 years. If he ranks up to E4 he can send for them. But why beat around the bush just tell the real truth as to what it is. Nothing I hate more is maybe or what if. Just give the truth and show examples. We are he to support people not to lie to them or go be them 1% hope that hurts more I feel. If they were married he had a better chance of not being sent to Japan that's a fact. They send single sailors first and higher ranks. Yes sometiems they still send married lower ranks but chances are he would have stayed in the states if he was married to her. That is a fact.
  • Bronco14

    1. They could get married quickly and submit a request for command sponsorship, if he is an E-4.

    2. She could look into going to Japan anyway, or we could inform her of how often she can travel to see him.

    Regardless, being blunt and negative is uncalled for. I am all for being realistic and not beating around the bush, all while being sympathetic and compassionate. Exactly like Anti M does it. I know all to well how devastating it can be to ask a question on this site and get bad news in return. I'm not saying that we need to avoid being the bearers of bad news, but the way we speak to one another when letting someone down needs to be kind.

    And on that note, you going around and telling someone "well if you were married sooner, he wouldn't have been sent overseas" does nothing but create more hurt feelings.

  • Michael

    I beg to differ and we can agree to disagree. A young pair of my friends just got married so he would not be sent to Japan before he got orders. Now it's no guarantee but it's a better chance then being single. I believe I was being sympathetic but truthful too. But it's ok you have your opinion and I have mine. People get information from many sources and they should because not everyone is right or knows everything, why I usually tell people to get ahold of Anti M a lot as she is very wise and if she does not know she will find someone that does to help you. I am done with the feed
  • Anti M

    If she goes over on a tourist visa to visit, she can only stay 90 days.  That long in Japan is extremely pricey, unless he has friends who would let her crash.  If he is going to a ship, he'll be deploying a lot, so she isn't missing a ton of time with him.  The 7th Fleet goes out a lot, over 250 days a year in some cases.  He will get to take leave, but getting a full 30 to travel to the US is hard.  Best to use it to visit with her if she gets to visit.  Get a passport NOW.

    They should marry as soon as they can, in order to catch any possibility of her going over.  I do not know what paygrade he is, so can't say for sure if that is even realistic. Some commands are much better at approving sponsorship, but do I know which ones?  Nope.  Are they going to be apart early on in their marriage and is it hard as hell?  Yes.  I was apart from my husband for the first two years we were married, because oddly, we both had orders to Japan ... different ends of the country.  

    As for arguing online, life is too short.  Disagree and move forward.  We all have something to add, we all have different styles, and that's okay.  

    Bronco, thanks for saying I'm nice.  I've caught a lot of flak for being direct and bearing bad news in the past, because lots of new young SOs needed rainbows and kittens.  I am better at salt and reality checks.  Sometimes I forget and talk to spouses as if they were sailors, because that is what I was used to doing.  That never went over well, LOL.   

  • Megs2447

    Everyone, thank you for putting in your opinions and I appreciate all the info. Please don't argue. It never helps the situation. My sailor is an E2, but will hopefully be graduating top honor grad. He's still not even done with BECC and as an EM his separation date is mid September. We have found out these are not hard orders and probably haven't even been written. I am going this weekend to get married. We are choosing to think positive. We are looking into every avenue possible. I am a teacher and can get a work visa to teach English in Japan. Was I devastated, yes. However, I'm optimistic about everything and it WILL work out.
  • Anti M

    Megs, which base?  We have several there.  You can look at teaching there via DODDS.  When I separated from the Navy in Yokosuka, I could not find work in electronics, so I subbed for years at the high school on base.  That may be an option, but I think you have to apply now.  You certainly should apply for a passport as soon as you can.  

    The money is really good IF you can get a position on base.  They also hire tutors and aides locally if you do get sponsored.

    http://www.dodea.edu/Pacific/

  • Anti M

    Also, be very cautious when taking a teaching contract with an English teaching school in Japan.  While few are outright scams, some have bad reputations for how they treat their foreign teachers. Research every review you can find.  There will be plenty of jobs in Tokyo and Yokohama area, which works if the orders are to Yokosuka.  Sasebo is pretty built up, but Misawa, not so much.  Okinawa is like another country entirely.  

    If he gets top grad, does he advance to E-3?  I know they do that in some cases.

  • Megs2447

    I have my passport already and it's good for 4 more years. I'll start applying now for those aide jobs and subbing positions. I'm not sure which base. I know which ship but I'm not sure if I should share that via the public forum?
  • Megs2447

    If he gets honor grad he advances to e3 yes
  • Navy Wife AZ

    Hi Ladies, I'm hoping someone can answer my question. We are trying to move to VA when my husband returns from deployment this summer. So that means I am the one figuring out our housing situation. We have a one month old son as well. I'm trying to look into military housing through Lincoln Military Housing and I was wondering if the military will take all of our BAH if we choose to go that route regardless if the place we choose through LMH rent's is less? Meaning if they are advertising a place in the Stanley Court community at $995/month and our BAH is $1500/month, do we still get the difference or do they keep all $1500 even though the rent is less? Hopefully that makes sense. My husband is hearing different things from people on the ship and I have to organize everything so I'm trying to find out the correct info.