Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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Anyway, the Navy MIGHT pay to move you out to the A school, that depends on whether his orders authorized a dependent move, and if it has not been too long since he reported.  I don't know the cut off, he will need to ask Personnel, not his chain of command.  Instructors often get such details wrong.

If you are moved to A school, you will still be eligible for a move to his new duty station.  It is not one or the other.  As long as his orders authorize "with dependents", you get a paid move.

I'm pretty good with the security stuff because I had a TS clearance, worked on crypto in secure spaces, and handled classified material.  Part of that training was anti-espionage training, thinking the way a spy would think.  These days it would be how terrorists think.  

Actually, going to an A school is not particularly secret, there are only so many Navy schools in certain locations.  When it gets sticky is talking about WHAT they are studying.  And when they get orders, you can say that too, because commands and units are attached to larger known bases.  You just can't talk about what they do there, or when they deploy from there.  

The Navy actually has a command to handle OPSEC:

http://www.public.navy.mil/fcc-c10f/niocnorfolk/Pages/OPSECMission....

@michael, I am not 100% when I will be moving but hopefully sooner then later!

Question! Sailor is being stationed in Mayport, FL after being in San Diego. We're wondering what the living situation was like as NS Mayport. Is he allowed to live off base? We are not married. Thanks!

It all depends on his paygrade.

If he is an E-4 or below, he will likely be required to live in the barracks.  He can get on the list to move out if the barracks fills up, but others will be in front of him. He can stay offbase and pay out of pocket, but that can get expensive, and you, as the civilian, would be stuck with the lease if it has to be broken.  Some get roommates and rent a house out of pocket.  

 If he is an E-5, he will receive BAH at the single rate and you may live with him.

Orders get cancelled all the time, which is why verbal or soft orders cannot be relied on 100%.  

I am glad it is working out for you.

LOL, of course I won't say anything about Bahrain.  What would you like to know about Diego Garcia?  

We are going to Norfolk.  I cannot be happier, as many of his friends from GL are there already, and a few of my friends live there.

Ok, reading these orders is challenging...so much info that doesn't pertain to me.  Where can I find out if the Navy will ship our HHGs???

Megs, it has been a long time since I looked at hard copy orders.  Can you find the orders number?  If you have that, you can call the personal property office and get things rolling.  Call the one for the base he is at, not the one he is reporting to.

This may be a dumb question but when our son and I are moved to my husband's area, will the Navy pay to ship my car? And will we have to pay for our plane ticket to the new area? This will be our first move. I'm sure we will be told all this information soon but I was just curious. Thanks!

Gatorgirl, the Navy does not pay to ship cars in the US.  Either you drive it there, or you pay to have it shipped.  If you drive, they pay for gas and per diem.  He can arrange for your tickets through the military travel office, they are paid for by the Navy.  Do not buy your own tickets, they get discounts we do not see, and you will not be reimbursed.

Kelsie,  only 90 days is needed to use a VA loan.

http://www.benefits.va.gov/homeloans/purchaseco_eligibility.asp

Basically, you go to a lender who takes VA, they run the credit checks and see if you qualify.  There are restrictions on the houses, it has to be your primary residence.

Anti M, if my son and I travel by plane but we have my husband's dad to drive the car across the country will the Navy pay for the plane tickets and pay us per diem and gas for the car? I am just trying my best not to drive with our baby in the car for that long.

Ok awesome. Thanks for all the insight! Looks like we will be driving then!

NEC is Navy Enlisted Code.  If your husband went to C school, he was given a code for his specialty (also, nuke, etc).  These are listed in his service record and on his evals.  He should know it, and he can have more than one.  (MOS is Army, AFSC is Air Force).

Installation is his command.  

If he has a critical NEC, they will want to put him where it can best be used within the EFMP parameters.

Sorry Navy Enlisted Classification.  typing too fast.

My husband will be graduating A school next month, and we will be doing our first PCS. I am trying to find out as much as I can about everything--we actually already have a house under contract and I have already gone to the area once for an interview. I learned that I will have to fly back to the location to sign the paperwork to close on the house, and I came upon something for civilians/spouses called a "House Hunting Trip," where I may be able to be reimbursed for the cost of going up there. I have absolutely no idea, and I have never heard of this before. I found this link about it:
http://www.gsa.gov/portal/ext/public/site/FTR/file/Chapter302p005.h...
but have no idea what it means. I'm willing to pay out of pocket, of course, if I have to, but if there's even the chance I could get reimbursed, I wanted to look into it. Thanks!

I have never heard of the military applying the GSA rules, the GS employees are civilians.  What us more usual is for the command to grant house hunting leave.  Be sure he asks about it before he checks out.  

The official site is move.mil.  I have heard mixed reviews.  You should call the PPO (personal property office) and ask to talk to a PCS counselor.  You can also contact Fleet and Family Services, and they can give you specific numbers to call.  You can do this even if you aren't on or near a base.

If you have a Navy packout, they will provide up to three months free storage before delivery.  Yes, you can pack out from a storage unit, but someone with a POA must be there to sign for the shipment, someone you trust.  This is "packed by owner" so affects the damage insurance, be 100% certain you must do it that way.

http://www.move.mil/documents/DOD/NAVSUP_PUB_490_Rev5.pdf

This one is from WA, but still good:

http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/ccsg11/Documents/Guidelines_For_a...

There is a PCS group here, but it is not very active, and you're pretty much going to get the same people replying.  

Hi, i've been enrolled & approved to be in the EFMP for Category 2.! My husband is suppose to get his orders changed, but Navy is telling him that either their going to take me off his orders or their going to send us anywhere that has an available spot for us. It seems as if their not accommodating to my health needs even though I'm in the program. Do any of you know about why that would happen? Also can my husband request me off his orders? & can he legally abandon me by not providing any of his money to me while were married? Thank you

Category 2 doesn't have many limitations.  But yes, they can send him to a new duty station and not you, others here have posted about that.  As for "anywhere that has a spot available", that is pretty much the way it works.  He doesn't get a preference if there are not a lot of billets to fill.  You may be in the program, but your needs will never trump the needs of the Navy.  

Off his orders?  Do you mean request unaccompanied orders instead of accompanied?  He certainly can ask, especially if he is going overseas.  

As long as you are married to him, he is obligated to send all BAH and FSA to you, plus half his base pay.  The Navy will come down on him hard if he does not support you financially.  

His orders should not be for more than three years, and yes, he can request a hardship transfer.  Orders and his contract are two different things.  

Thank you for the information! @Anti M

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