Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Michael

    Need more information BHA is always on the paycheck divided into two paycheck and it's based on where the family is living. If you live in base housing you will never see BHA. If you live off base it will be on your husbands check
  • 18gf

    yeah i needed information on how i can help him get me as a dependent and apply for on base houseing or bah bc he is at a range till 4 and the offices are closed at 4. i was just wondering what i could do so i can move out there as soon as possible
  • abuon18

    18gf - tell him to explain to his instructor what he needs to do and ask if he can leave early one day to take care of it. Most instructors will let them leave early to do what they need to as far as family is concerned as long as it's not a test day - it's very very rare that I've heard of someone coming back and saying the instructor said no. Otherwise, until you're in his page 2 there isn't much you can do. If his instructor says no, you'll have to call the office on his base, explain the situation and ask them if there is anything you can do.
  • Michael

    Like aboun said if your legally married you should be on his page two. And BHA goes right on the same check as his payroll. If not you will have to go to DEERS and take a copy of your marriage license so they can back date it so you can start receiving it.
  • 18gf

    okay thank you so much do you know if they pay for me to move there?
  • Michael

    They pay for one move so if they paid for his move then they will not pay for you to move. So if all his belongings are still at the original house and now you are moving the FAMILY then yes. But if he used them to move stuff already then no. You should have access to his paychecks online. If. It you have to talk to him because you are entitled to half his pay and BHA. You need to go to the. Nearest military base and see the DEERS office to see what's going on or get on your husbands case to start moving the ball. I had to do it with mine as all he was thinking about was school with all his homework.
  • 18gf

    they paid for him to drive his car from a school does that count as moving?
  • abuon18

    They will not pay to move you to where he is currently stationed because you got married after he received his orders to go there.
  • Paige

    Hi you all, does anybody know about how my Husband & I can get marriage counseling outside of military, but still being able to use Tricare standard in Norfolk,VA? Thanks!
  • abuon18

    Paige, if you have Tricare Standard you can go to the Tricare website and search for providers who accept Tricare insurance and pick one. You don't even need a referral.
  • Michael

    What she said. Also this is this counseling the navy gives for married couples in the summer in key west and they pay for it. My husband wanted us to go to it for a nice fun place lol
  • Paige

    Hi you all,

    My Husband was UA for 17 days, he had TAD orders but decided not to report in until the 17th day prior to his report in date. His ship is already aware of the situation. What consequences could he face? Thank you!

  • abuon18

    Paige do you mean he decided not to check in to his TAD orders until 17 days AFTER his report date?
  • Paige

    Yes, he was suppose to check in on Jan 9th & didn't check in until the 26th of Jan!

  • Anti M

    UA is a serious offense.  He just didn't go?  He is in trouble, they will not treat this as a minor mistake.  

    He will be subject to either a Captain's Mast (non-judicial punishment, only matters to the military) or a court-martial, which has consequences in the civilian world as there is a judge.

    The very least I would expect is restriction (up to 45 days), loss of rank (down one or two paygrades), loss of pay (a month or two worth), and potentially confinement (but maybe not).  If he goes to court-martial, he could be given a bad conduct discharge, which means he cannot hold certain jobs in the future as it it is a felony.  That is worst case though, so he likely will just get restriction, busted down a stripe, and pay a fine.  My best guess based on experience.

    They could choose to do nothing, but that would be really unlikely.  

  • Paige

    Would he be under the same consequences you stated if he was UA for 17 days, because he checked in at the Command on the 17th day prior to Jan 9th when he was suppose to check in! He had to check in on the 9th but didn't check in until the 26th!
  • Michael

    Yes what Anti M has stated even one day going AWOL can get you court martial down grade in pay and what she said it's serious it's nothing to joke about. Your looking at a felony meaning he can never practice law can't vote can't be a doctor he better get a lawyer that deals with this.
  • Paige

    Does it depend on the ship on how the consequences or how does it all work?
  • Michael

    No it's Navy law. It military law plain and simple. I would look into getting a military lawyer. A few years back a solider left his post for two days and was jailed for 90 days and court martial. This is the military this is not civilian world where you get slaps on the wrist. Your trained and given secrets that's why it's so important to follow rules and laws.
  • Paige

    What about for TAD orders? Does the same consequences apply?
  • Michael

    I don't know what your not understanding if your late and don't show you are AWOL period. If your suppose to be at the ship on the 19th at 0600 then you are there at that time period. Whatever if in writing you must follow unless you are directed differently by a chief or above. Your husband should have someone he has to keep in contact with at all times since he's newer.
  • Michael

  • Paige

    Thank you all for the information, it helped!
  • Paige

    What happens when you get a DRB?
  • Michael

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    Sir, the first thing to keep in mind is that while the DRB is an administrative hearing, if you present evidence, that evidence can be used in a later proceeding. So, for example, if you testify at the DRB and they decide to send the case to a court, your testimony at the DRB can be used at court.

    The other thing you want to understand is that before the Naval drug lab reports a positive on a urine test, that test goes through a GCMS test. Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry (GCMS) is basically a chemical fingerprint of the substance. It is not the same as an assay test, which tend to not be accurate (for example, many commercially available over the counter medications and supplements can cause a positive screening on an assay test but will screen negative for GCMS testing)

    I am not a forensic pathologist...but that is what you need.

    If your goal is to fight this you really need to talk to a forensic pathologist to see if the substance you took can screen positive in a GCMS testing for Serax.

    IF that is the case? Then that is what you want to present at the DRB

    Be careful though...if you go to the DRB and claim you never took Serax but took _____ (whatever it is you took) you can bet that the commander will consult with a forensic pathologist (there is at least one at every Naval hospital) to see if that is possible. If it is not? Then you may well find yourself facing additional charges of false official statement.

    On the other hand, if you contact a forensic pathologist? And they can confirm that the substance you took will test positive for Serax in GCMS testing? Then you are set.

    BotXXXXX XXXXXne: I would not make a statement at the DRB unless/until you can confirm whatever it was you took can test for Serax in a GCMS screening test. My guess is the answer is no...but there are exceptions since many drugs are derived from plants...just make sure you have a basis for the claim before you raise it...if you do not and are wrong, you may find yourself in worse trouble than you started with
  • QueenKnight

    Hi all! Thanks for the add! I'm actually the mom, my son is in bootcamp currently. He just got married, and his wife is here with me(so please don't kick me out..lol). Is there a link or somewhere we can get information on what she needs/can be doing right now? Will she be able to go to Pensacola with him or should she wait? Those type questions. Thanks for all your help!
  • Michael

    As long as she's on his orders then she can go.
  • elizabeth_fl

    She should be able to go with him to Pensacola as she should be on his orders. But I have seen where some wives stay in their hometowns until their husbands are finished with schooling and have their orders for their first duty station :) 

  • Allison

    It depends on the length of his A school if she'll be put on his orders. The best thing she can do right now is focus on sending some positive letters with lots of words of encouragement to help him through bootcamp. My husband always wanted to know what was going on in the world and at home. I also sent sports updates. Saving money is a great idea, and if she's missing any official documents like original birth certificate or is short on copies of their marriage certificate, she should get those things together in a safe place since all kinds of reasons to have them will come up. If she doesn't have a passport, she should get one just in case. I also recommend downsizing since moving is a pain, but it doesn't have to be extreme, just if she has books she'll never read again or clothes she hasn't worn in months, that kind of stuff.
  • QueenKnight

    Thanks. They just got married in Dec so we have aLl the paperwork with extra copies everywhere! Lol. I'm kinda like yall, I think she should wait till be gets stationed. Wonder were that will be?
  • Allison

    Congrats! It's tough making the decision whether to move or not. I moved with my husband to A school, but I was put on his orders because he had a long school. Usually it's about 6 months to qualify as a permanent duty station and move with your spouse, so we were fortunate in that respect. If she doesn't get put on the orders because it's a short school, I would recommend waiting because they will only see each other during liberty hours and he'll have to have a buddy all the time while he's in school. It will also save a lot of money to wait for the Navy to pay for the move to his first permanent duty station.
  • Anti M

    Paige, the DRB is where they review your sailor's infraction, and decide whether to proceed with Captain's Mast, at what level, or if they are going for a CourtsMartial.

    Just because the orders were TAD, for a limited time away from his main command, does not make them any less important or "real" than orders which are a change of duty station.  He had a place to be, at a specific time, and he chose not to go.  I do not know why he made that choice, but it was an extremely poor decision.  

  • Anti M

    Good morning, Queenknight. Welcome!

    Allison is correct regarding moving to A school, unless she is on the orders, and the school is over 20+ weeks, then it is better financially to stay where she is.  You can google the seat time for what rating he will be, as that is what they base Accompanied vs. Unaccompanied orders on.  Be aware that he will be there longer than any stated seat time, but hold times waiting to class up does not count.  Right now there is not much she can do except find as much current information as possible.  Always look at the date and source of what she is told.  You will find that dependents can only do so much, and "hurry up and wait" is going to be part of her new normal.

    Here is the COOL site where you can find the length of A schools.  Let me know if you need specific help and I can try.

    http://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/

  • Paige

    Hi you all, My Husband & I are expecting a child, whats the process on adding a future dependent to Navy! Thank you!
  • WifeofaUSsailor

    Hi Paige,

    Congrats! My husband and I just recently had a baby boy and the process was fairly easy. I had him in a civilian hospital though so sometimes they do more of the paperwork for you when you're in a military hospital. But after we had him we had to take his birth certificate to the ID station on base and register him with Deers. After his social security card came in the mail we had to take that to the ID office as well. Your baby will basically be covered on Prime for the first 60 days after he's born automatically but it's up to you to call and enroll him in Prime permanently after he's born (if you want him to be on Prime). You can also call TriCare and they will walk you through the process and steps you need to take after the baby is born.
  • Michael

    Navywife. When I was a cop my department did the same thing to me I simply told them I have no problem getting on the phone and hiring a lawyer and suing you for harassment. Under the United States law you must work with spouses of military members and harassment is not allowed. Put your foot down. They shut up at my work also call the EEOC they can give a call for you to shut them up
  • CrissySue

    Hi everyone! My husband shipped for GL last week. I'm still waiting for "the box" and the letter. I'm pretty sure his PIR will be at the end of March. i look forward to getting to know you all!

  • Allison

    Welcome to the family Crissy!
  • TieranyC

    I have a question about moving to SA after my husband graduates basic and goes into A School. Is it worth it? Will I get to see him on the weekends? Will I have to wait until he graduates basic to ask these questions??? 

  • Anti M

    If the school is under 20 weeks of seat time, moving there will be entirely at your own expense.  Your BAH will change to that zip code.  A lot is going to depend on what school, and where, whether it is worth it.  Shorter schools?  Stay where you are.  Longer, yes, if the Navy will move your things.  The problems come when you are at the school when it is time to PCS, but your things are in another state.  That gets complicated and expensive.  It is an individual decision, of course.

    If the school is over 20 weeks, they can put in a chit to live ashore with you.  If the school is shorter, they will not get permission to love offbase.  They earn their liberty (regular time off) in phases, phase one is about two weeks long, they must be in uniform and have strict curfews.  Phase two, they can wear civilian clothes, the curfew is extended, they can drove and consume alcohol if of age.  Phase three, they can stay off base overnight on the weekends.  They will also have duty days or duty weekends now and then when they must stay on base.  They always need a liberty buddy, but can get permission for a spouse to be their buddy.



  • Anti M

    By SA, so you mean San Antonio?  HM?  That school is not accompanied, so the move would be out of pocket.  

  • Anti M

    Another option is once he gets to A school, is to plan a couple really good long weekend visits for once he hits phase three.  He'll know his duty rotation, which weekends he'll have free.  My friends did this instead of trying to move there.  Something to consider.

  • DieselLady

    Navyfiancee12. Check airbnb! I spent my winter break with my husband and ended up being over a month. We were able to get a nice furnished apartment for way cheaper than we could find renting anything. Also, a big thing was finding a place with a kitchen so we didn't have to spend money eating out...
  • Allison

    San Diego is very expensive according to our friends that just got stationed there, so I second air bnb, and don't be afraid of just renting a room with them if they're willing to let you access their kitchen. You can also ask hotels if they have a weekly rate for extended stays, but definitely make sure they have a kitchenette if you go that route.
  • Anti M

    While it is usually full, have him check with Navy Lodge.  Be careful of timeshare rentals, you often need to change rooms each week.  

  • Anti M

    Also, while a month is a long time, check out couchsurfing too.  People just let you stay at their home for free.  I used to host travelers, but for health reasons I couldn't keep up so I quit doing it.  But check it out, even f you have to swap locations, it might be useful and fun.

  • akjanko17

    exoluxion13 my boyfriend is also at boot camp in the Great Lakes! Do you know how long it will be before they can start sending letters?
  • tatortot1107

    akdell, when my fiance went through in November..we got his box about 6 days after he got to boot, the PIR letter about 10 days after and then I got his first letter about 2 weeks after he got there, and I got his first phone call 3.5 weeks after he got there and letters should get to you by wednesday or thursdays depending on where you are located. They only get to write on Sundays :) Let me know if you have any questions! 

  • Michael

    That's is not 100% truth with phone calls. Phone calls are earned. When my husband was in boot camp last spring two divisions did not make there first call until week 6 because they were goofing off and falling behind. They will not reward you with phone calls if your screwing around if people in your division are screwing up its up to the others in that division to ride there asses. My husband did not call me until almost week 4 on a Wednesday and only because he needed something else mailed I got 90 seconds that was it then he called me the following Sunday and got a full 10 minutes. Phone calls are a privilege not a right as long as you behave and keep your division in check you will be rewarded.
  • Anti M

    There usual pattern of phone calls is "I'm here", one around the third week, and the I'm a sailor call.  The third week is not a hard and fast guarantee, but they do try to get the division to the phone banks around then.  They really have to screw up not to get calls, and it is an everyone or no one thing.  They may even earn more calls, and some divisions get several.  The phone bank is bear the NEX and they can buy a calling card.  Now and then an individual will miss a call because they are at dental, or are standing a watch.  They do not get make up calls if they miss one.  The I'm a sailor call is nice and long for the most part.  

    Concentrate on your letters, it takes a little while for the Mail PO to be trained, but once they are, the division can begin receiving mail around week two or three.  You may hear them ask why they aren't getting your letters, it is just that initial delay.  Mail is federal and cannot be withheld.  They are not supposed to read mail afer lights out, or write, but a few do.  Ssssh.  There are red lights on in the compartment at night, so be  sure to write in nice dark black or blue ink.  Other colors are hard to read after taps.  Again, ssssh.