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Michael
Jan 11, 2017
18gf
Jan 11, 2017
abuon18
Jan 11, 2017
Michael
Jan 11, 2017
18gf
Jan 11, 2017
Michael
Jan 11, 2017
18gf
Jan 11, 2017
abuon18
Jan 11, 2017
Paige
Jan 14, 2017
abuon18
Jan 14, 2017
Michael
Jan 14, 2017
Paige
Hi you all,
My Husband was UA for 17 days, he had TAD orders but decided not to report in until the 17th day prior to his report in date. His ship is already aware of the situation. What consequences could he face? Thank you!
Jan 28, 2017
abuon18
Jan 28, 2017
Paige
Yes, he was suppose to check in on Jan 9th & didn't check in until the 26th of Jan!
Jan 28, 2017
Anti M
UA is a serious offense. He just didn't go? He is in trouble, they will not treat this as a minor mistake.
He will be subject to either a Captain's Mast (non-judicial punishment, only matters to the military) or a court-martial, which has consequences in the civilian world as there is a judge.
The very least I would expect is restriction (up to 45 days), loss of rank (down one or two paygrades), loss of pay (a month or two worth), and potentially confinement (but maybe not). If he goes to court-martial, he could be given a bad conduct discharge, which means he cannot hold certain jobs in the future as it it is a felony. That is worst case though, so he likely will just get restriction, busted down a stripe, and pay a fine. My best guess based on experience.
They could choose to do nothing, but that would be really unlikely.
Jan 29, 2017
Paige
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
Jan 29, 2017
Paige
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
Jan 29, 2017
Paige
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
Jan 29, 2017
Paige
Jan 29, 2017
Paige
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
P. SIMMONS, Military Lawyer
Sir, the first thing to keep in mind is that while the DRB is an administrative hearing, if you present evidence, that evidence can be used in a later proceeding. So, for example, if you testify at the DRB and they decide to send the case to a court, your testimony at the DRB can be used at court.
The other thing you want to understand is that before the Naval drug lab reports a positive on a urine test, that test goes through a GCMS test. Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry (GCMS) is basically a chemical fingerprint of the substance. It is not the same as an assay test, which tend to not be accurate (for example, many commercially available over the counter medications and supplements can cause a positive screening on an assay test but will screen negative for GCMS testing)
I am not a forensic pathologist...but that is what you need.
If your goal is to fight this you really need to talk to a forensic pathologist to see if the substance you took can screen positive in a GCMS testing for Serax.
IF that is the case? Then that is what you want to present at the DRB
Be careful though...if you go to the DRB and claim you never took Serax but took _____ (whatever it is you took) you can bet that the commander will consult with a forensic pathologist (there is at least one at every Naval hospital) to see if that is possible. If it is not? Then you may well find yourself facing additional charges of false official statement.
On the other hand, if you contact a forensic pathologist? And they can confirm that the substance you took will test positive for Serax in GCMS testing? Then you are set.
BotXXXXX XXXXXne: I would not make a statement at the DRB unless/until you can confirm whatever it was you took can test for Serax in a GCMS screening test. My guess is the answer is no...but there are exceptions since many drugs are derived from plants...just make sure you have a basis for the claim before you raise it...if you do not and are wrong, you may find yourself in worse trouble than you started with
Jan 29, 2017
QueenKnight
Jan 29, 2017
Michael
Jan 29, 2017
elizabeth_fl
She should be able to go with him to Pensacola as she should be on his orders. But I have seen where some wives stay in their hometowns until their husbands are finished with schooling and have their orders for their first duty station :)
Jan 30, 2017
Allison
Jan 30, 2017
QueenKnight
Jan 30, 2017
Allison
Jan 30, 2017
Anti M
Paige, the DRB is where they review your sailor's infraction, and decide whether to proceed with Captain's Mast, at what level, or if they are going for a CourtsMartial.
Just because the orders were TAD, for a limited time away from his main command, does not make them any less important or "real" than orders which are a change of duty station. He had a place to be, at a specific time, and he chose not to go. I do not know why he made that choice, but it was an extremely poor decision.
Jan 30, 2017
Anti M
Good morning, Queenknight. Welcome!
Allison is correct regarding moving to A school, unless she is on the orders, and the school is over 20+ weeks, then it is better financially to stay where she is. You can google the seat time for what rating he will be, as that is what they base Accompanied vs. Unaccompanied orders on. Be aware that he will be there longer than any stated seat time, but hold times waiting to class up does not count. Right now there is not much she can do except find as much current information as possible. Always look at the date and source of what she is told. You will find that dependents can only do so much, and "hurry up and wait" is going to be part of her new normal.
Here is the COOL site where you can find the length of A schools. Let me know if you need specific help and I can try.
http://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/
Jan 30, 2017
Paige
Jan 31, 2017
WifeofaUSsailor
Congrats! My husband and I just recently had a baby boy and the process was fairly easy. I had him in a civilian hospital though so sometimes they do more of the paperwork for you when you're in a military hospital. But after we had him we had to take his birth certificate to the ID station on base and register him with Deers. After his social security card came in the mail we had to take that to the ID office as well. Your baby will basically be covered on Prime for the first 60 days after he's born automatically but it's up to you to call and enroll him in Prime permanently after he's born (if you want him to be on Prime). You can also call TriCare and they will walk you through the process and steps you need to take after the baby is born.
Feb 1, 2017
Michael
Feb 1, 2017
CrissySue
Hi everyone! My husband shipped for GL last week. I'm still waiting for "the box" and the letter. I'm pretty sure his PIR will be at the end of March. i look forward to getting to know you all!
Feb 3, 2017
Allison
Feb 3, 2017
TieranyC
I have a question about moving to SA after my husband graduates basic and goes into A School. Is it worth it? Will I get to see him on the weekends? Will I have to wait until he graduates basic to ask these questions???
Feb 6, 2017
Anti M
If the school is under 20 weeks of seat time, moving there will be entirely at your own expense. Your BAH will change to that zip code. A lot is going to depend on what school, and where, whether it is worth it. Shorter schools? Stay where you are. Longer, yes, if the Navy will move your things. The problems come when you are at the school when it is time to PCS, but your things are in another state. That gets complicated and expensive. It is an individual decision, of course.
If the school is over 20 weeks, they can put in a chit to live ashore with you. If the school is shorter, they will not get permission to love offbase. They earn their liberty (regular time off) in phases, phase one is about two weeks long, they must be in uniform and have strict curfews. Phase two, they can wear civilian clothes, the curfew is extended, they can drove and consume alcohol if of age. Phase three, they can stay off base overnight on the weekends. They will also have duty days or duty weekends now and then when they must stay on base. They always need a liberty buddy, but can get permission for a spouse to be their buddy.
Feb 8, 2017
Anti M
By SA, so you mean San Antonio? HM? That school is not accompanied, so the move would be out of pocket.
Feb 8, 2017
Anti M
Another option is once he gets to A school, is to plan a couple really good long weekend visits for once he hits phase three. He'll know his duty rotation, which weekends he'll have free. My friends did this instead of trying to move there. Something to consider.
Feb 8, 2017
DieselLady
Feb 9, 2017
Allison
Feb 10, 2017
Anti M
While it is usually full, have him check with Navy Lodge. Be careful of timeshare rentals, you often need to change rooms each week.
Feb 10, 2017
Anti M
Also, while a month is a long time, check out couchsurfing too. People just let you stay at their home for free. I used to host travelers, but for health reasons I couldn't keep up so I quit doing it. But check it out, even f you have to swap locations, it might be useful and fun.
Feb 10, 2017
akjanko17
Feb 16, 2017
tatortot1107
akdell, when my fiance went through in November..we got his box about 6 days after he got to boot, the PIR letter about 10 days after and then I got his first letter about 2 weeks after he got there, and I got his first phone call 3.5 weeks after he got there and letters should get to you by wednesday or thursdays depending on where you are located. They only get to write on Sundays :) Let me know if you have any questions!
Feb 16, 2017
Michael
Feb 16, 2017
Anti M
There usual pattern of phone calls is "I'm here", one around the third week, and the I'm a sailor call. The third week is not a hard and fast guarantee, but they do try to get the division to the phone banks around then. They really have to screw up not to get calls, and it is an everyone or no one thing. They may even earn more calls, and some divisions get several. The phone bank is bear the NEX and they can buy a calling card. Now and then an individual will miss a call because they are at dental, or are standing a watch. They do not get make up calls if they miss one. The I'm a sailor call is nice and long for the most part.
Concentrate on your letters, it takes a little while for the Mail PO to be trained, but once they are, the division can begin receiving mail around week two or three. You may hear them ask why they aren't getting your letters, it is just that initial delay. Mail is federal and cannot be withheld. They are not supposed to read mail afer lights out, or write, but a few do. Ssssh. There are red lights on in the compartment at night, so be sure to write in nice dark black or blue ink. Other colors are hard to read after taps. Again, ssssh.
Feb 16, 2017