Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Anti M

    LOL, near the NEX.  No bears!

  • tatortot1107

    Michael, 

    Sailors get three phone calls, "I'm here", usually a ten minute call, and the "I'm a sailor call". The timing of the ten minute call depends on the behavior and timing of other events throughout boot. They are guaranteed three calls, anything over that are earned and a privilege. 

    Ani M is correct, they really have to screw up to not get phone calls. Things come up and some sailors miss call times, but usually they get to make them up later on. 

  • SimplySimi23

    My SO got 4 phone calls because his division won captain's cup. I also know of some people who got a call every weekend because their sailor's division behaved very well. It definitely depends on how the division performs but you should get 3 calls at a minimum.

  • Michael

    Tatortor1107

    Sorry I beg to differ. My husband. Called me 2 times that's it the call I am here. 4 weeks later he needed paperwork the call was 30 seconds long and I got the call I am a sailor. So yeah it's no mandatory to get 3 calls. My uncle works at boot camp they try and the word is try to get 3 calls but it's NOT gurenteed. So yeah I begged to differ. My sister in law who graduated in September got 6 calls there is no rhym or reason. I know my husbands group had a lot of good offs and fuck ups 3 who got kicked out during the time. There is nothing in writing saying they get phone calls. Marines get zero calls as my brother called to say he's a marine for graduation. So once again nothing is in stone don't care who you are. Lastly my grandfather was a instructor for 27 years god rest his soul he also told me when he was alive calls are not a right they are a earned privilege that can be taken away. That why I tell people if you get a call awesome but always write because it help you as a person and makes the sailor feel missed loved and care about.
  • tatortot1107

    Michael, 

    You don't need to be so rude. Clearly we have different sources of information. I have had many family members through BC as well as an Uncle as an instructor. All information depends on the source, especially in the military. Agree to disagree on this apparently. haha. Have a wonderful evening :) 

  • Ellek73

    Hey everyone I'm new here! My recruit is off at basic right now  PIR March 24! I was so excited to find this forum here! I'm still very new to all the navy stuff but eager to learn as much as I can! Its also nice to find a place where people are going through a lot of the same things! My friends are super supportive but they don't always get how it feels! 

  • Anti M

    Welcome Ellek73!

  • TieranyC

    Hello! I was just wondering when do the Sailor and spouse start receiving benefits?? 

  • Thelight

    TierancyC I think after bootcamp when they come out. the first week of bootcamp they put down all there dependents. But you won't get the stuff till they come out I think.
  • Allison

    TieranyC they are eligible immediately after they enroll you in DEERs; however, it can take one to two pay cycles before you see the increase in his paychecks. If he's in bootcamp, he will likely enroll you in DEERs either week 1 or week 5 of training depending on how much time they have if I remember correctly. If he's in school or the fleet, he can go to PSD or talk to his chain of command anytime they are open to start the paperwork.
  • Allison

    When your spouse does start receiving financial benefits, you can expect a lump sum of money to make up the time when he was eligible but not actually receiving benefits. Insurance starts right away. If you have POA, you can request an appointment to go on a base close to you and get your ID, otherwise you will wait until you move with your spouse and he can take you to get an ID card. Your ID card is also your insurance card. If there's an emergency and you know your spouse has enrolled you in DEERs, tell the doctor/er you have tricare and they should be able to look into it with your SSN.
  • Anti M

    In addition, the Family Separation Allowance will begin after 30 days, it is $250 a month.

    It takes about three weeks for them to see a first paycheck, and it is often small.  Usually the one after that has the BAH (housing allowance) in it, as Allison said.

    Overall, about a month and a half for things to settle in properly financially.

  • TieranyC

    My husbands recruiter said when he gets to his first duty station, my husband has to fill out paperwork before I can move there. Does anyone know how long that process lasts? 

  • Anti M

    TieranyC, that is not how it works.  When your husband receives orders, they will indicate whether they are accompanied or unaccompanied.  If accompanied, then you get to move to where he is going (usually within the US).  Sure, there is paperwork, but that is done before the move, and usually involves setting up the move, requesting dislocation allowance, signing up for housing, etc.  You get to move with him, it is called "concurrent travel".  

    He does NOT need to file paperwork for you to move with him.  The exception would be if he gets overseas orders, which is totally different.

    The recruiter is not correct, or is not expressing the way things work adequately.

  • TieranyC

    Anti M. can you send me a message? I have more questions. 

  • TieranyC

    Anit M. why would I NOT be able to go with him? I doubt it'll be overseas.. so I should, correct?

  • Anti M

    verseas orders have a different set of rules.  However, they try very hard not to send married first term sailors overseas.  This includes Hawaii.  A sailor must be an E-4 or above to take dependents overseas.  Do not worry about that, just be aware.  
    There are also a few duty stations overseas where dependents cannot go in any case, but the chances of that are very slim.  Again, nothing for you to worry about.

    Send me a friend request so I can read your messages.

  • Allison

    TieranyC what rate is your husband going for? The only paperwork they have to do for you to live with them is if they have an A school of 6+ months, and there are very few of those. In that case, since the school is considered a "permanent duty station", he can request to live ashore with you instead of the barracks, and there is paperwork. After that, you will be able to move to any permanent duty station that he received with "accompanied" orders. Unless my husband and I have been forgetting something, we haven't needed any other paperwork, even for his C school because it is 7 months, so it's considered a permanent duty station. He didn't even have to request live ashore for C school. Only A school, and it was just a chit…like a permission slip in the Navy.
  • Em43

    Anti M- how long does the process take after they get sent to A school after basic that I am allowed to move there with my husband. He is going to goose creek for nuke school. I am curious as well because I was told paperwork would have to be filed as well. Thank you!
  • Anti M

    It takes a few weeks to get the special request chit processed, which lets the school know he wants you there, and to begin the process.  Two at a minimum, I'd guess somewhere around four, six if things get off track.  

    A regular duty station would not require the chit, but the schools do as some students who are eligible to move their dependents there choose not to.  So the school needs to know who wants to move dependents, so they can get the proper authorizations in place.  Allison summed it up pretty well.   Your sailor will not have C school, he will have A school and Power school at Goose Creek, then Prototype, which is either SC or NY.  

    The timeline is hard to pin down because there are variables.  In some cases, nuke school will allow them to fly home to bring you back.  This is NOT usual, and is the only school to allow it, so while you cannot count on that happening, if it would be useful and affordable for you guys, he should know he can at least ask if it is possible (once he gets to Goose Creek, no one at RTC will have this level of detail for him).

  • Anti M

    Custody is a civil matter, so JAG cannot help.  Your husband can contact them and they should be able to give him some contacts.  I believe Fleet and Family Services also has lists of civilian family lawyers.  Good luck!

  • Ellek73

    I know I'm still new to all of this my boyfriend will be graduating boot camp on March 24! I am so incrediably proud of him and have been writing him letters every day since he has left. His mom has been confiding in me a lot lately about things going on back home (I am a travel nurse and currently living states away from friends and family both mine and his) and things do no look good for them financially or otherwise. I help as much as I can but they don't accept much of my help. They are a very close knit family and it took them a while to warm up to me and even now things can get hairy. Any way the point of me rambling is I could really use some positive thoughts and prayers my way. My cat who is my lone compainion at the moment is not doing well and at the vet and things don't look good for her right now. Some days I can handle it all but keeping as big of secrets about his family from my SR as I am right now while I know is absolutely the right thing to do is a certainly a struggle at the moment. And it breaks my heart because I am the only one who will be able to make it to his graduation so I know a lot of this news will be broken over skype after he graduates. I know there is nothing I can do about any of this but some days it just feels like a lot. Thank you 

  • Justin

    ANYONE WITH THIS INFORMATION IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! ASAP!

    My fiancé is graduating next Friday and is in Div 102, I was told to expect the "Im a sailor" call tomorrow and even with the chance of that happening I had another Marine say he would take my place in an event tomorrow if I do one of his in the future. I didn't want to allow myself to be in any situation where I wouldn't be able to answer the phone whatever the time of day is the call might come. Before tomorrow though I would like to know how likely I am to receive that call the Friday before her graduation so I don't have another Marine take my event for no reason if its most likely not going to happen. Anyone who can provide an answer it would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

  • Anti M

    He will need a certified copy.  Order a few extras from the county where you married.

  • Anti M

    As long as he has his account and routing numbers, which would be on a voided check, that is sufficient.  

  • TieranyC

    Question! When will insurance for the wife start??

    Thanks! 

  • Allison

    sspawlus he may be able to tell you approximately when he's leaving ahead of time, but he probably won't know until he receives his orders and travel packet, which can come as late as the day of. The safest bet is to fly out late that night or the day after PIR to make sure you don't leave before him and give yourself a good cushion to work with and be flexible within. There's just no way to know exactly when he'll leave. However, some flights leave at exactly the same time every week from ohare, so you could try to guess, but it easier just to leave later or the day after honestly. Also, if for whatever reason your sailor is sent to THU, you'll want to have time to get back to Great Lakes in case they let him take his phone on the spot and have plenty of time to get back and make your flight (graduated sailors on ship 5 are allowed to have phones). It's a small chance, but better safe than sorry, you know?
  • Allison

    TieranyC it should start immediately, but the only way to know for sure is to access Tricare's website and call your regional number. The website is simply tricare.mil and you'll need your social security number for sure, and it is a good idea to know your spouse's SSN as well in case the system hasn't updated yet. If they give you a hard time, just stay calm and explain you're new to all this. Most representatives are really nice. Because you don't have an ID card, you should either ask for your insurance info while calling tricare or in an emergency, just let your er know you have recently started using tricare and they should be able to handle it.
  • garden gal

    My son was told the next payday (around the 15th & 30th of each month) after you had been there at least 20 days. For example, if he arrives on Mar 15 - Mar 25 the first paycheck should be on April 15. It might be one earlier or rarely one later. You will get the FSA, it happens after they have been away for 30 days, then they back pay for those 30 days. That takes a while to settle out too, but eventaully you will get it.

  • Allison

    sspawlus the first full paycheck will come at approximately 4-5 weeks depending on payday since uniforms and other essentials are deducted from pay. FSA depends on distance and will need to be applied for, he will probably do the paperwork wk 2 or wk 5 of training and they pay will be back dated. For example, when I lived in OR while my husband was in Great Lakes, we received FSA, but when I was in bootcamp and my husband was stationed at TSC Great Lakes, we did not receive FSA. I believe it is over 350miles to be eligible. We didn't receive benefits for about a month but all were backpayed on the first paycheck we received benefits on.
  • Thelight

    My husband just called and to say he will not be graduating until he passes his swim test and if I come to graduation I will not see him. Sigh.
  • CrissySue

    @Thelight,

    That happened to my friends son too. When was he supposed to graduate? If its next friday, the 7th, he still has time to pass... If its this friday, he will go to the FIT division and work on his swim test twice a day until he passes. He may not get to March at a PIR, but you may still get to see him over the weekend that he graduates. I understand the frustration.

    My husband is in the RCU recovering from a torn PCL and partially torn ACL. We dont know when he will graduate. **HUGS**

  • bakedmac

    @thelight
    My husband graduated last Feb10. It took him 7 tries before he passed the last swim test. He said there was another guy that took the swim test 17 times. They both passed. It's tough on them, and a lot of times morale is down. So try to cheer him up and send positive and encouraging letters. Don't lose hope. He still has time to pass it. There are videos on youtube that you can watch and try to give him tips. But most important is to give him the courage, support and love, so he can endure. Good luck to both of you!
  • Allison

    It depends on the country, and I don't want to scare you because some are pretty relaxed, but some require translated vet paperwork, shots within a certain time frame, and even quarantine. Your best bet is to go to or call your local embassy for the country you're going to for the most accurate info, and search around online. They will also be able to recommend how to translate the paperwork or do it themselves if necessary. If there's a vet on your current post, they also sometimes have that information on hand as well.

    As for flying. Don't put cats in cargo if you can help it, and it isn't a good idea to sedate your dogs if they are in cargo because it will be hard to tell how they are feeling upon landing. Crates have to be airline approved, so make sure to check the requirements for the airline you're flying, and if you don't buy one through them, make sure to have plenty of time at the airport to come up with another solution. Using an old tshirt or two that smells like you can help with anxiety. I recommend cutting them down the middle and the sleeves open to avoid tangling during the flight, but it's not necessary. There are also weather requirements for flying with pets on some airlines, so have a friend or family member on call to pick up your pet and bring them back to the airport for another flight if they can't fly that day with you.
  • Allison

    Unfortunately, what your recruiter said is true. Your husband will not get official orders until right before he graduates and receives his travel packet. I would ask whoever needs the orders if they can accept a copy of his contract just until the official orders are given. If they need a date, estimate like a week after his PIR date for a good safety net. I can't promise it will work, but it's worth a shot.
  • Brittanie C

    Hi
    I live with my boyfriend that's in the navy and he just went underway that was only supposed to be 4 days. He should have been back yesterday. Has anyone ever experienced this? I don't know what to do. I know the navy can change stuff at any moment. But I really want to stop worrying. Any suggestions?
  • Anti M

    It is not unusual for a ship's schedule to change.  Your sailor cannot email the changes to you, as he'd get in trouble for violating OPSEC.  The source of official information will be the ombudsman.  Some are willing to work with girlfriends, some are not.  In any case, your sailor will need to verify your identity, as the ombudsman needs to know who you are.  Google them, make contact, find out what needs to happen to keep you in the loop.

    You are now learning the essentials of having a Navy SO.  Hurry up and wait.  No news is good news. Semper Gumby (always flexible).  

    You can do this, it is okay to worry, but know it comes with the territory.  Your next task is learning the best ways for you to handle this type of thing.  Everyone deals with it a bit differently.

  • TieranyC

    Allison, when I go on the Tricare website it doesn't have a place to enter a SS #... 

  • Allison

    TieranyC to see if they can use your social, you'll have to call tricare directly. It is based off your region that you are living in, so go on tricare.mil, find your region, and call the number listed there. You can explain to them whatever reason there might be for you no having an ID card, bootcamp/deployment/A school, etc.. They may also need to know your spouse's social. I hope that helps!
  • Anti M

    You will definitely need your sponsor's SSN.  They haven't asked for mine in decades.  They go by his, and my birthdate.

  • TieranyC

    Thank y'all! 

  • anniexbananie

    Hi guys! when do you usually receive the first written letter from your sailor? do you usually get his form letter before he gets to write a letter to you? 

  • Sarah_SailorGF

    Yes the informative letter came in about a week two after he left i believe, and I got my first letter about 3 or 4 weeks in... He told me they were only allowed to write and send letters on Sundays and since i live in California i would usually get his letters on Thursdays. But honestly that first letter and every letter after that bring so much relief, the wait is definitely worth it. You will be so overjoyed, there's no other feeling like it! 

  • Allison

    I got my first letter before my husband's form letter got to his parents. I was on the west coast in OR at the time and got my letters four days after he sent them, so usually Thursdays. I started getting letters the second week. It's difficult to say for sure what the case will be for you because it all depends on how long they are in P-Days. When I went to bootcamp, my husband lived across the street…literally. It still took about 4 days for us to send and receive letters with each other, and he got my form letter first because I spent a whole week in P-Days while he only spent a couple days over the weekend. The difference is, you cannot write or send mail on sundays while you are in P-Days. Time spent in P-Days depends on how fast they can fill divisions. I met someone while I was in bootcamp who had to spend three weeks in P-Days because they didn't have a complete division before the holiday "break." That's the extreme though. Most divisions spend a week in P-Days, but whether they'll miss one Sunday or two just depends on when they arrive and how many people are coming that night. Always remember that no news is good news :). I hope you get your letters soon.
  • Anti M

    Normally the BAH kicks on after a few pay cycles in boot camp.  He needs to follow up on this ASAP when he gets to A school.  

  • abuon18

    Chikn chaser, once he is out of bootcamp he will be able to log in to MyPay with a logon ID & password - he doesn't need to have a CAC reader. He can also create a spouse log on for you, so you will be able to log on to view his LES (his "leave and earnings statement", which will show you his pay breakdown) but will not allow you to make any changes. The servicemember can make certain changes with their login that the spouse login does not allow. Be aware that the end of month (EOM) statement is the one that shows the full pay breakdown - the mid month just shows the deposit he'll be getting that pay period. Then when the EOM statement is released is when you will be able to see the allowances and deductions of his pay.
  • CrissySue

    I hate to be oppositional, but I check my husband LES all the time. You just go to Mypay.dfas.mil. Your husband has to give you the username and password though.

    Also we got BAH from the get go. He signed us up for in week two of boot.
  • Allison

    In the meantime, until he can get you his login info, you can calculate an estimate based off his pay grade and using the BAH calculator. I'll look for some links, but if you just google say navy E4 pay or whatever his rank is, it'll give you the monthly usually before taxes. You can also just google BAH calculator, but I'll find the link for what I use before we move.
  • Allison

  • Allison

    Here's a chart that's more specific to 2017:
    https://www.navycs.com/charts/2017-military-pay-chart.html