Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Anti M

    Family Separation Allowance is $250 a month, and begins after 30 days.  As as allowance, it is not taxable.

    He may have chosen allotments to go into the retirement/401k type savings offered now.  

    A rule of thumb is pay is taxable, allowances are not.  Some states tax military pay, some do not, some only tax if they are stationed in state.  The federal taxes will certainly be withheld.  Even our retired Navy pay is taxed!   In any case, look up your state's tax code.  The good news is every base has VITA tax volunteers to walk you through filing when the time comes.

  • TieranyC

    @Anti M 

    Would the Family Separation Allowance go into OUR checking account? Will it be included in his checks??

  • Anti M

    It will be in his check.  Everything will be in his pay.

  • CrissySue

    Im excited! Surprise trip to Chicago tomorrow to see my hubby for the first time (authorized ;) ) since Jan 25th

  • Anti M

    @ChrissySue ... enjoy your trip!  

    @sspawlus ... try the Navy Lodge.  Next to base, inexpensive.

  • abuon18

    Sspawlus that's not entirely true. Once his paperwork is processed that shows you as his dependent, you do havw health insurance coverage if you need to see a dr. or if there is an emergency. You do not have proof of your insurance until you have your ID but you are insured from the day the paperwork is filed, so you can submit claims retroactively if need be. If you do find yourself in a situation where you need urgent care or to go to an emergency room, call the Tricare number for your region and they'll direct you as to what you need to do.
  • Anti M

    abuon is correct, and if you call the Tricare nurse line, they can always dorect you how to take care of any urgent issue.  Even as a retiree, I rely on that nurseline when I cannot get to the clinic on base.

  • TieranyC

    I got my health insurance forms same day as my first letter from him. I have an appointment to take my forms he sent to where they need to go so I can get my ID! (:

  • TieranyC

    Just curious, IF my husband was to get stationed overseas, would I be able to live with him? He's an E-3
  • abuon18

    TieranyC, most likely not as an E3. They typically do not give accompanied overseas orders to below E4s and also generally do not give accompanied overseas orders on the first set of orders, regardless of rank.
  • TieranyC

    Thank you both!
  • Tiffany22

    my boyfriend left for basic 4/18 and this is his 3rd week there  how long does it take to receive personal a letters?

  • NavyGF

    Hi Tiffany22! They'd be able to write a personal letter after the processing days, usually for about two weeks. But it could be longer than that if their division isn't complete yet. Or could be because of your location that's why it's taking longer? 

    My boyfriend left on April 10, his letter is dated April 23, his parents received it on the 26th. It was sent the same day to me then I received it for about a week after! 

  • Anti M

    @TieranyC ... the others are correct, because he is married, he will probably not get overseas orders.  It is not impossible, especially for some ratings.  Just unlikely for a first set of orders.

    If he does go, he must be an E-4 to take you with him. There are special visas for military spouses, which lets you reside overseas.  If you go on your own, you're on a tourist visa, and must leave the country after 90 days (that varies).  A few duty stations do not allow dependents at all.  However, since the chances are slim, don't worry about it.  It is possible, but not probable.  

  • TieranyC

    Thanks! 

  • Anti M

    It can be either Midway or O'Hare.  No way to tell beforehand until he lets you know.  It really is a toss-up.  Plan for either.

  • Anti M

    sspaws ... I don't know why that would be.  Sometimes the new recruits don't comprehend the information correctly.  BAH can take a few pay cycles to kick in, so you almost certainly will not see it in the first paycheck,and maybe not for a few pay cycles (paid twice each month, 1st and 15th).  In the past, there was enough of a lag between the paperwork and the BAH showing up, it was toward the end of boot camp before it showed up.  Lately, they have been doing very well, and by the second or third pay day, the entire BAH from day one when he shipped from MEPS was in the deposit.  A lot depends on how many processing days he had, or if there were errors in the paperwork.

    In any case, married recruits are eligible to receive BAH for their dependents.  They do NOT have to wait for graduation.  It just may seem like it because of the paperwork lag.

  • Allison

    What Anti M and Michael said is true. He may be tired and have misunderstood, they flood you with info on very little sleep those first couple weeks, but even if it takes a few pay cycles, you will be entitled to all the BAH from the moment he started bootcamp. The only way you wouldn't make BAH for your spouse dependent in bootcamp is if you are mil to mil because you'd both have military accommodations. In this case, you both should be living in barracks, or if you're not, your BAH would adjust to single rate since he has military accommodations. The only exception being people who were grandfathered in to the old way in which mil to mil couples would both make the married with dependent rate. If you guys are mil to mil and have questions, feel free to ask! I think Anti M was also dual military.
  • Anti M

    I was dual military, but under the really, really old system, where each of us got half the BAH!  It really sucked.

    Yes, it is very common for new sailors to be swamped with information, and not really get it right at first.  I am glad we are here to help answer questions, when we can.

  • Anti M

    About the only way is with his username and password.  Be certain you have everything exactly.  The site can be fussy and lock you out, I know I hate using it.

  • Allison

    Chickn.chaser there's a couple things you can try. First, use a different web browser. The only one I know for sure that either will not work or will barely work if it does happen to load is safari. Military websites tend to hate apple products lol. Google chrome works most of the time, internet explorer is the one that you can count on, but you cannot download internet explorer on a mac if you have one. Second, make sure your computer and browser are up to date. Finally, make sure you're allowing the site to read your information, you can do this by going to the settings on your web browser, usually in the top right corner. I'm not sure exactly what you'll need to run mypay, but your best bet would be to just click always allow on everything, you won't get anything weird from a military website, and if you don't like feeling vulnerable, once you're done just reset your settings. If you have an ad blocker, I would temporarily disable it. It might not matter for mypay, but I know sometimes my husband can't run nko with his, so it couldn't hurt to try. If none of that works, I would agree with your husband on a new password next time he calls and try changing it yourself. If you're not using it already, you can also try putting his first initial, last name as the user name, example John Doe would be: JDoe. This wasn't my husband's original log in format, but it is now for some reason. That's all I've got haha. You might try google to see if anyone has had the exact error code or issue you're having and see what they say.
  • Michael

    Boom there you go easier. Best soulution for you congrats I am so happy you got it figured out
  • Allison

    It really depends on where you go. Some of our friends have days 9-2 and free the rest of the day but do short cruises every couple weeks, one has about 10 hours on gate duty here like 4 or 5 days a week, one deployed almost immediately, and his wife said he has like 12 hour shifts babysitting the equipment he works on and other routine mainentance. My husband got a long C school, so he's still doing the 10 hours of PT, training, and cleaning. Apparently, he will have long days but a lot of downtime during those days at our next duty station according to his chief. This is all for my husband's rate though except the gate duty friend, I imagine it depends on the job as well.
  • abuon18

    Hi OldAirForceSupporter, welcome to the Navy family!

    After training, your Sailor's schedule will depend on his/her command but likely it will be more similar to what they are doing now than a 40-hr work week. They will still have duty days and watches, and these can be on weekends, and if so they do not get a weekday off to replace it (depending on the duty rotation, but for example, my husband sometimes works 13 days in a row while the ship is in port.) During the week they go in early and usually get out early (still an 8 hour day) but can be even longer depending on what needs to be done, if an emergency cropped up during the day, or some other last minute order, or if the person in charge is just in a bad mood honestly. Some days they will get out really early. Unless they have duty on the weekends they don't usually have to go in. Depending on what part of the deployment cycle the ship is in, they may be going out to sea a lot (if they are in a workup cycle, getting ready for deployment), or they may be home every day (if they are in the yards in a maintenance cycle).

    If your Sailor is on shore duty, it's more like a 40 hour work week but they still have duty, even on weekends, and they still are at the discretion of the command - they don't have set hours. They go in to work in the am but can't leave at 8 hours. They leave when the person in charge releases them for the day. I'm sure others can chime in with more details, what I've said is really, really basic and general. It gets much more specific depending on where he/she is stationed, what their rate (job) is, etc. For example, on a ship, the whole ship does not get to leave at the same time. Each department gets released by their own supervisor when their supervisor says. My husband's job is always last to go.
  • Anti M

    I was mostly on shore duty, and a 40 hr. work week was rare.  We worked 7 am to 4 pm, with an hour for lunch.  We also had duty days which were 24 hours.  In addition, we might put in extra hours if the command was tasked with providing security for base events.  We did not get extra days off if we had weekend duty.  We were all on call techs too, so if the gear went down, we went to work until the systems were up and running.  Days on end.  During typhoons, those of us who were "essential" stayed at the command until the all clear was called.  We didn't do organized PT, but some commands do, that's extra hours.  Sometimes training is within work hours, sometimes it is not.  

    Other people at our command were on shift work, 2 day shifts, 2 evening shifts, 2 mid shifts, with days off after a cycle.  They did not stand duty like we did.  

    Every command will be a little different, but do not expect a simple work week like civilians get.  He will always be busy, and it will suck on the days you want him around.  

  • mamh1108

    Hello everyone,

    Lots of questions. My fiancé and I had a wedding planned during A school in our hometown, and we realized that the odds of our request being approved is slim to none. Now we're rerouting our plans to have a court wedding in Illinois. Do any of you have any advice? I don't even know where to start. How long will each phase last during A school so we can plan with our families?

    Sorry I'm so new to this. I've never even been to Illinois. Haha
  • Anti M

    Hi mamh1108 ...

    Liberty phases do vary a little, so it is impossible to give you a set of dates.  Usually the courthouse marriage is just the couple, and then when he takes leave after A school, you can have a ceremony for the families.  

    Here is the liberty policy for Great Lakes:

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/training-support-center-tsc-great-la...

    Phase one can be two weeks, or it can be a full month.  It will depend on the individual school command.   He will be told the policies when he checks into A school.  Shorter A schools phase up quicker.   He will want to be in phase three, so he can have an overnight with you.

    Did you find the link for the Lake County county clerk, for the license information?

  • Allison

    My husband never had to go back to base at night while we were married and living in Great Lakes, and the same with his fc counterparts, so as long as they are living there, he can come home to her as he will be either et or fc if I remember correctly from her post in another page on here. If she chooses not to live in IL with him, he can request special liberty at any phase with her. I signed my husband out as his liberty buddy during phase one, that is how we went out and got our license for IL and got married since we couldn't get married before he shipped. Our friend's sister stayed with us and was able to sign her brother out at phase two as his liberty buddy. All they need is a chit, phase doesn't really matter, it's all about timing for approval and if they are in good standing. The only benefit of waiting until phase three is that he won't have to also request special overnight liberty. However, if anyone wanted to visit during phases 1 or 2, he can fill out a chit for special overnight liberty with her or another family member. That's not to say it will be approved, but for that once in awhile visit, there is a good chance. 

  • Allison

    mama1108, my husband and I did the courthouse wedding during A school since we were told having our wedding before he left would delay his ship date because I lived and worked in another country, which would slow down clearances, lots of paperwork, etc. Anyway, you will both need to appear in person at the county clerk office, which is open M-F, and it would be best to do this during ATT or earlier if you can since the training hours can make it difficult for him to get there before they close. After that, you can be married by any qualified person, religious or civil. If you have more time, there are lots of people willing to meet you for a couple hours somewhere in Lake County. I would recommend getting married in Lake County because it is easier to make it to the clerk for the certificate than getting all the way to Chicago (Cook County). There are some beautiful parks and hotels. Otherwise, you can appear at the courthouse during their wedding hours, but know that you'll most likely be sharing the moment with other couples. I personally didn't even notice the other couples, I was totally focused on my husband, but it did clearly bother some of the other couples and their families there. They just can't promise you a private affair, it depends how many people are getting married, and with all the Navy guys fresh out of bootcamp on top of the general population, there's A LOT of couples there. 

  • Allison

    I want to clarify, if you get a certificate from the County Clerk in Lake County, you cannot get married in Chicago as it is in Cook County. 

    Here is the website for the Lake County Clerk, Great Lakes is in Lake County, the office is probably 10-15 minutes from base https://www.lakecountyil.gov/383/Marriage-Licenses

  • Allison

    http://www.19thcircuitcourt.state.il.us/1498/Babcox-Justice-Complex

    This is were my husband and I were married, Babcox Justice Complex because we were able to get married on a Saturday this way. Get there early if you go this route! They will marry you in the order you arrived, and if they run out of time and have another case to address after 11, the will stop for the day. Bring cash, and to be on the safe side, pay exact change. 

    If he wants to get married in uniform, he can go in either his nsu's (the black and khaki for him) or dress uniform, nsu's are the standard since courthouse attire is nice but not formal, but if you're wearing a wedding dress or would just prefer it, he can absolutely wear his dress uniform, both are approved since it's still a wedding. 

  • Allison

    Last thing for now, but feel free to message me if you have more questions, I recommend having your sailor put in for special liberty to give you the time to get everything done and then celebrate a little. He will need one chit to sign out with you, and one chit to stay overnight with you if you will be getting married before phase 3. Chits are more likely to get approved if they don't require a duty swap, so if date isn't super important to you, avoid duty weekends...which will make sense when he gets there. I would expect the first two months to definitely be phases 1 and 2, but after that it is totally up in the air. He will have the most time either before ATT or A School during the period known as "holds" or during ATT (usually phase 1 during this time). He won't be able to skip A School days to get married, and the hours for both et/fc will be difficult to work with.Not only is it more time for you guys to get everything done for the wedding, but it will be easier for him to get everything updated in DEERs and apply for housing if you'll be moving there. A School is a stressful time.

  • Anti M

    You rock, Allison!

  • newnavywife

    Well, my husband left for boot camp yesterday!  He had his cell so we were able to talk while he was at the airport in Chicago. I didn't get much sleep the two nights before, so the last text I sent was telling him that I might pass out but had my phone next to me for the "I'm here in Great Lakes" call.

    Apparently I didn't put my phone on loud properly though so I woke up at about 12:45 to see he had called me twice at 12:08am.  So I missed the call!!!  I hope he's not upset.  I can't believe myself, I knew I shouldn't have went to bed.

  • TieranyC

    My husband is graduating soon. BC is only 10 days. Just curious... when he comes home to move, will I be able to go with him then? I'm sure I will find out soon but I'm eager to know if I have to stay behind or can go right when he goes.
  • TieranyC

    School/Job training is only 10 days. So I am talking about when he comes home to move..
  • AnchoredbytheSoul

    My wife just went in to BC. Her PIR is July 14th. I have not heard from her in 2 weeks. She sent the letter and boxes to her family because I am in the middle of moving back to IL. However I still have not heard from her which is worrying me to say the least. How did you all get through this? When should I start receiving letters or even a phone call?
  • AnchoredbytheSoul

    She has a long A school in Chi town. I am originally from central so it makes sense for me to move home and I am female :)
  • Allison

    AnchoredbytheSoul it is not unusual to not hear from your recruit the first couple weeks, or never get a phone call, and it's really hard, but the best thing is to keep your ringer on as loud as it can go and then just focus on a project like the move. Staying busy will help the time pass a little more quickly. You can also be writing letters to her and keep them in a pile until you do have her address. Make sure the post office has your forwarding address too just in case. You can do it! While it's different for everyone, if she's in week two or three, there's a good chance she's learned how to make her rack and store her items properly, learned how to form up and march, standing 2-4 hours of watch a day, and has either had or is about to have her first test, which covers a lot of basics like the chain of command, safety protocols, and ship/aircraft identification. Week four is usually hell week, where they tend to get up earlier and go to bed later, take a big test, and get tons of info all at once. I hope it helps to have an idea of what she might be doing. Good luck, and we're always here to help.
  • Anti M

    @TiernyC ... whether you get to move with him will depend on how his orders are written, and where he will be stationed.  I would say "probably yes" in your case, without knowing the details.  He will find out during his training after boot camp.

  • TieranyC

    Thank you!
  • abuon18

    Michael, there is no reason to be so rude in your responses. Everyone has a different experience and it does not mean one is "right" and someone else's is "wrong". People come here for support and advice, they ask questions because they are new to this lifestyle and don't know. Some recruits DO get an hour or more for their "I'm a Sailor" phone call - my husband did. This is supposed to be a supportive site where people can find information from those of us who have already been in their shoes. Please remember that at one point you had the same questions and were here looking for help and advice and answers too when you are offering your advice to others.
  • Allison

    Some people don't know that not every sailor gets an hour to talk. My husband called me every Sunday for almost an hour since his first week. I was very lucky, and I wouldn't know that wasn't normal if I hadn't gotten on this site or gone myself. If a friend had asked me over coffee one day before I knew, I would say their recruit would be calling all the time not realizing that's not true. You may be trying to give the truth, by not everyone knows that same truth because they haven't had 11 family members go to basic. They are just trying to help however they can and be supportive, which is the point of this site, there's no need to "lol" or tell them not to say something. You could just say "in my experience…" or "while (username) has good advice, here are some other things that can impact the situation." Honestly, this isn't the first time you've been extremely rude in your replies. It's fine if you want to give vague answers and keep people from panic, getting their hopes up, or whatever, but you really need to work on how you communicate your experiences on the forum and how you interact with others. There's no need for all the extra, everyone is sharing their experience, and you can share yours and walk away without mocking others or saying they're wrong just because things were different for them and they were trying to help.
  • DieselLady

    Ladies! Be kind and civilized!
  • AnchoredbytheSoul

    I work in medical and can tell you that not every patient has the exact same outcome or treatment plan. So I am a big girl and realize that I may not get to talk to my wife nor will I receive a ton of letters. I know she is busy as is all of your spouses were or are. Mine is just like Michael. She has entered in at a late age but more fit and more drive than any 20 year old male or female. She is determined and when she puts her mind to it she focuses on the job at hand and leaves everything else up to me. We have been friends for 13 years and dated for 4 years. I know she kicking butt, but I am lonely here at home with no one to talk to about this. Her family wants nothing to do with me and I lost my family when I came out. So I truly am all alone. I do not like seeing all of you fight and argue. I know it is hard but everything each one of you says has truth to it because that was your experience. I have not gone 1 day in 13 years without talking to my wife. I am all alone, worried, and planning our wedding and my move to IL. So the fights are genuine I get that but we are all adults and we are all suffering in our own ways. I just want someone to vent to.
  • Anti M

    Anchored, being apart is difficult indeed, especially with so many unknown factors.  However, you are likely stronger than you know, it sounds as if you have a handle on this.  Are you in the boot camp group also?  It is good to have different people to lend support.  If you are on Reddit, there is 

    https://www.reddit.com/r/USMilitarySO/

    While that is all branches, it is also a good place to vent and get some support.  If I come across other resources, I will post them for everyone.

    I've not seen so much activity in one day on here for a long time. I am a little impressed with the passion, but dismayed at the name calling.  I have been accused of being mean or rude now and then myself, because I have a concise style and sometimes do not pull punches.  I do try to be gentle, and will readily admit when I am wrong (LOL, I try, I really try).  I find some people write as if they were speaking, and sometimes the meaning of a post gets a little lost.  

    We are all here for support.  I must admit when someone posts something which is flat wrong, I'll jump in, but it is frustrating.  Some spouses have very unique situations, and their viewpoints throw off the advice.  

    Oh, btw, there are indeed about 100 phones at the phonebank.  That's a fact.  How many work, and work well, all on the same day is a matter of debate.  Basically, enough phones for one division at a time.  Each Training Group has several divisions, and there are several training groups.  The math means there are not many opportunities for phone calls.  Be prepared, plan for the worst, hope for the best.  It is about all you can do.

    If anyone is wondering, yes, I was in the Navy, but I went to boot camp in Orlando.  My father was a Masterchief, my husband was also Navy, and my nephew and acquired kids are currently active duty.  Technically I am still associated with the Navy as my husband is a retiree, so I still have the ID card, am still on Tricare, and still deal with DFAS and the VA. Yes, I can be something of a know it all.    

  • Allison

    AnchoredbyTheSoul, I'm sorry, and Michael, I am sorry to you as well. I do agree with AntiM that maybe sometimes we are typing as we speak, and it comes across wrong, and I recognize I could've used more tact myself in addressing the issue.
    Anyway, AnchoredbyTheSoul, I can feel for you somewhat, my husband and I had dealt with years of seperation but still managed to talk every day, so bootcamp was a very difficult time for us. I tried my best to learn about everything I knew he was learning about, so I could keep up and ask questions when he called. It really helped me feel connected to him even though I wasn't with him or talking to him because I knew he was learning the same stuff. Now that I've been, I know there's a great resource called the Blue Jacket Manual, and you can find them pretty cheap on amazon since there's so many copies. It is the same as one of the books they are issued in bootcamp. As far as feeling alone and family troubles, I can somewhat relate, although under different circumstances of course. Feel free to message me any time if you want to talk, I don't always reply right away, but I am happy to message back and forth.
  • MLB123

    Another example of different circumstances. My SR went to Great Lakes of 4/4/17 with a scheduled PIR of 6/2/17. I got the "I'm here" call, one 20 minute call, and two 5 minute calls. Waiting for the "I'm a Sailor" call. :)

  • Anti M

    FYI, Micheal is a guy.  His husband. 

  • Ellek73

    I hate to jump in here and change the subject but I'm just looking for a little support and encouragement tonight. I'm still relatively new to all of this. My sailor (boyfriend) has only been graduated from boot camp since the end of March and just graduated A school May 16th. He was able to go home to visit his family afterward which was wonderful because they were unable to make it to his graduations and hadn't sen him since he left for boot camp. I am a traveling nurse in Idaho at the moment. It was going to cost him $1,500 to re route his flight to come visit me alone. I totally understood and told him not to worry about it. I know it really upset him that he was not able to come see so I've tried really hard not to make him feel worse about it. My contract here is ending this week and I'm still trying to figure out what is next for me. Between moving out of my apartment today and trying to figure out my own plans I know it makes all the stuff with missing him harder. Tomorrow morning he flies out to his first base (I'm not really sure how to refer to it? his first orders?) and I don't know why but its hitting me hard tonights. Maybe its just because I'm not 100% about everything that happens next or when I will see him next. Anywho sorry for rambling I could just use some positive thoughts tonight.