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For moms (and dads), wives (and husbands) and girlfriends (and boyfriends) who survived PIR February 19, 2010 - Including Ship 14 Div 095-100, Ship 7 Div 101-102 and Ship 6 Div 913
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  • Beverly

    Slimsam - how did your son do on his test?

    Arwen - I'm proud of Chris for getting it done....I'm one of those slow and steady sorts too, I totally identify! :-) People whiz by me sometimes, but when I get to the finish line, they've often pooped out, and are gone with the wind (on to the next horizon). Go Chris Go!!! :-)

    (((Mel)))) I'm so happy for you - only three more days!!!

    Sarah - yike!!! Thats even worse!! I can even imagine that many people losing their jobs. And thats just one county!!! We barely have that many teachers in our entire county!! I'll pray.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Beverly, that is just the 1st round of cuts too.
  • Arwen

    Sarah, what kind of game was he playing? I hope he's not wasting all his money on video games.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Arwen, I don't know what game it was but I'm pretty sure since he was at the liberty center that he didn't pay for anything unless he bought the game.
  • Arwen

    Ah, that kind of game. Good. I sent him a box of his own games last week, it might have been one of them.
  • Beverly

    Slimsam - that sounds good to me too! Phillip said he passed some test or other yesterday, too. He finally went to the doc and got meds this am. Yay! I still chuckle that last week he was trying to find antibiotic (like amoxicillian) at the NEX. :-)

    Sarah - yikes - that sounds awful! We had a "Budget" talk with our superintendant today. He said he expects 15-20 cuts (including retirements/attrition); that will still work less days next year at the current rate - but that anyone doing a good job that would have received a contract anyway - will receive a contract again.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Slimsam- I really don't know anything about it. I do know that it is in on a busy road . We go to the movie theater and ihop up that direction.

    Beverly- Yea that is awful. Apparently the way the superintendent wants to cut people is not how the principals are going to do it. At least my mom's principal is going to give them the heads up on how many in each grade will not be coming back so that they aren't shocked in the end.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    So since there are a bunch of us that are going to be in Pensacola and I think it was mentioned briefly before....did we want to meet up somewhere? I am meeting up with a friend I made who is flying down to see her husband so I was just wondering so that I could plan my weekend. I'm already down here so I can get the info I need that Shawn won't think to tell me about moving. I can't believe this is my last weekend in Pensacola and then in 2-3 week we will be in DC. That reminds me. I think there was someone in this group in the DC area. I need to find a place for my dog since we won't have housing and the temp. housing won't allow pets. If we don't take her then we won't ever get her back and I am not about to lose another animal. I hope everyone is enjoying the rest of their week!
  • Beverly

    Hi guys....just checking in. Ended up with a UTI - which is really fun to deal in a classroom. On meds, and much better now, but I have been up since 3:30 am......I did lie in bed for an hour trying to go back to sleep, but gave up at 4:30. Maybe its a sign I need to get back to the gym????
  • Beverly

    Happy Friday, and have a great weekend. Have fun Sarah and Slimsam!
  • Beverly

    This was on the Nuke moms group.....

    Someone posted this on facebook and I had to share it here..get your tissues ready!
    You don't know, but I am the mom who cries every morning and hopes every night for his safe return. I am the mom that drags herself out of bed every morning so that he will be proud of her when he comes home.
    You don't know but I am the mom with a million things to say, but none will come out without the thought of him. I am the mom who checks her phone every 5 seconds just to make sure I haven't missed his call. I am the mom who stops and stares and wishes for him to return soon each and every time another man in uniform walks by.
    What you don't know is that I know love on an entirely different level than most. I know the love that spans time and space. The love that most parents are constantly searching for.
    I can tell you I know more about love in homecoming, then most know in a lifetime. You don't know that when he left a part of me went with him and a part of him stayed with me. You tell me that you know how I feel and understand what I am going through, but you have no idea, so please don't say you do.
    What you don't realize is that I understand the true meaning of not only love but of longing and anticipation.
    You don't see, but I am one of the few who gets goose bumps and choke back the tears as my heart fills with pride every time I hear the national anthem play. I am one of those moms that will stand tall and stay strong on the outside when I feel like I am dying on the inside.
    I am one of the moms who will make friends with complete strangers, for only they can begin to understand what I am going through for they go through it each and every day also with one of their loved ones serving. And please don't say you do, because you never will. You don't understand that I picture his face everywhere I go and he is with me in everything I do.
    You think I don't cry anymore, that I have gotten over it... What you don't know is that I just hide it better.
    You don't know the feeling the word "deployment" brings. Or the feeling of his hand as it slides out of your hand for what could be forever as he boards the bus, the ship or the plane that will take him to harms way. You don't know what that last smile, hug and kiss mean, how important that goodbye truly is.
    You tell me you support the troops, I tell you I love a Sailor. I am one of the silent, but outgoing. One of the weak but strong. Scared but Proud.
    What you don't see is that he needs me & I need him.
    I am one of those moms who stands tall behind her Sailor.
    Stands tall behind her hero.
    Stands tall behind her son.
    Watching silently and patiently as he serves and defends our country,praying many, many times throughout the day for his safety......waiting for him to come home with that same mischievous smile and that same twinkle in his eyes and to hear those precious, precious words, "Mom, I'm on US soil. I'll be home soon."
    You don't see that I will drop to my knees and thank God for my son's safe return. You don't know the tears of relief I will sob and you don't know that for the first time in seven months, I can truly breathe again.
  • Arwen

    Chris called yesterday, he had another "incident."

    His class has a decent lunch break, but the school is at the other end of the base from the chow hall, so they RUN from school the moment they are released. He had another sailor's coat (they have to wear coats in the building because it is kept very cold for the computers) so turned to throw it to the guy. He got it into the guy's arms perfectly, but was concentrating so hard on that he forgot to watch where he was going - and ran into a bike rack.

    He is injured, skinned shins and hands, but his pride is hurt more than his body. His entire school witnessed the event. Oy. LOL.

    Chris also told me he thinks he is currently top of the class, but behind (high score, slow work). I don't know if he's telling the truth, or is just telling me what he thinks I want to hear. I can't believe I actually miss parent-teacher conferences.

    Control freak is freaking out.
  • Beverly

    Arwen - when you write the book that I foresee coming called "Chris-idents" please make sure your N4M sisters get an autographed copy - you could keep Reader's Digest "Humor in Uniform" going each month just by Chris' antics! :-)

    I'm sorry he was hurt though (both his limbs and his pride). :-(
  • ukmom

    Hi ladies, just thought I would give you a quick update. David was able to come home for the first time this weekend. He wanted to give his grandparents a surprise and walked in wearing his dress whites. What a handsome guy! Hope you all have a great weekend. I know we will!!!! Happy Derby Day!
  • Beverly

    How wonderful!! Share the pictures if you have any! :-) Hope your weekend is fun, fun, fun!! :-)
  • Beverly

    ((((((((((Pam))))))))))) sounds wonderful!! Tell us all about it when you have time! :-)
  • Beverly

    Popping in to say hi!! On my way back to the school to an Honors Program for the kids. I'm tirrrred.

    Hope you girls have a good week. Pam - hope you get to see him soon with one on one time. Love ya girl!!
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Hi Moms, I'm sorry that I've been gone. I'm very busy with the Army families at the Army website as we saw our son who is in the Army this past weekend for one day. It was wonderful, but today I think I had a meltdown from missing both of our sons so much. Someone on the Army website started a new topic called "Missing Your Loved Ones"...and I was overwhelmed with facing what I'm feeling inside and I really had a big cry. I told them about our sons in the military and that one is in the Navy and one is in the Army.

    After I gathered myself together I needed to come here to say thank you to all of you for being here. I can't stay away again for this long, as I know that I still need the support that we give each other.

    I miss y'all, I miss our sons, and I know that y'all feel the same feelings that I feel in my heart.

    We have to remember that: "Those Who Wait also Serve."

    Hugs to all of you. Thank you so much for being here. I'm so glad that you are.
  • Beverly

    Sandra - what a wonderful visit!! :-) I'm so glad for you. It made me sad about you having to start over on the ornaments. I'm glad that you found one that you like as a "seed" ornament :-) I collect ornaments too, I like the old world variety, and also have a lot of toy ornaments.

    Slimsam - I never thought of being fish bait at the beach - but I guess you are totally right!!! You must have watched "Jaws" at a very impressionable age. :-)
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Hi slimsam, Beverly, MomofJustin, Arwen, PamMomofJustin and ALL Of YOU! I hope you're all doing well and that you're able to talk to your Sailors often. Yes, thank you, slimsam..I'm doing much better than I was a couple of hours ago.

    The Army families are just like all of you, so nice. I guess military families are all wonderful! We all can relate to and understand exactly what each other is going through and the feelings that we experience. Our joys, our pride, our missing them and our worrying. Every military family goes through the same range of feelings and emotions.

    I am so happy that our Sailors have graduated boot camp,.but it's still very hard. They're so busy everyday and we still can't see them unless we travel to Charleston or wherever they're stationed! (I was dreaming the other day about how nice it would be to move to Charleston...I decided that if I were a millionaire that's what I would do!!!) lol. Whenever they got stationed someplace new...I'd just move there too!! (wow....I bet my sons are glad that I'm not a millionaire!!) : )

    We can talk to them now, but I don't think I should be calling EVERYDAY, so I wait until I can't wait anymore and then call his cell phone at night. He often answers and he always seems very happy to hear from us and willing to talk for a few minutes.

    Don't y'all just miss them?! I know you do! Just like me, you feel the same. I can't wait until they are home for at least several days straight in a row.

    Has anyone been able to go to visit their Sailor? We had that wonderful visit in March with our Sailor in Charleston. Now...I'm missing him again just as I did when they were in boot camp.

    We still cannot have normal communications with our Army son...we saw him this past weekend for the 9 week mid-cycle 36 hour pass. But now it's back to AIT for him and then on to Airborne. We're looking at another five weeks or so. I think he will be able to have a cell phone in another four weeks. We also have some reasons to believe that he might be deployed relatively soon. We have nothing official on that yet, and we don't know much...so for OPSEC purposes I'll just leave it at that rather than talking about things that I really don't know about. Just some mother's intuition at work in conjunction with some other mother's intuitions. God bless y'all. I have some catching up to do. Hugs to all of you.



    Tonight I'm going to not write anything, but read everything so that I can catch up with all of you. Tons of Navy Hugs...and Army Hugs too. Tricia
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Well, I read back ONE post and I already have to comment.

    Sandra Sailor Nichelle...God bless you AND congratulations on your son in the Army! My goodness I know that you're PROUD! But oh Lord, the worry and concern you feel. My heart goes out to you. Please feel free to call me ANYTIME if you need to talk. My prayers are with you. You're a wonderful mom. Your children are very blessed. We all must stick together through thick and thin. We're all in this together. God bless you and when you need extra strength please pull on us.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Well all I can say is it is good to have Shawn home. We got in very late last night and he had to drive the whole way because I am sick and haven't been sleeping well...yea I know I'm always sick. Luckily I was not sick for most of the weekend but I am starting to think that every time I have fun I get sick. Today I had to get up and give my presentation on my 4 papers on being a military wife and tomorrow I have a final. Oh and trying to figure out the moving website is not so easy. I hope we can figure it out so we can get a pack out date for next week. I hope everyone is having a good week!
  • Arwen

    Whoa, hey, wait, what? And WE weren't invited???????? Is that even legal?

    Congratulations Mrs Sonny :~D
  • Arwen

    Here's photos of the Millington Personnel Center - where the Navy creates transfer orders and manages promotions (E-4 and above).


    While the enlisted data is safe on the second floor, the detailers and their families were flooded out of their homes and it may be a long time before they can return to work. If your sailor is waiting for orders, just sit tight. S/he is not going anywhere anytime soon.

    Chief Hoppi says that the detailers are being told that if you don't have your orders already in hand, do not transfer.

    The chiefs and officers have it worse. Officer detailing is on the first floor and that section was flooded. They managed to rescue most of the hard drives before the flooding swamped the buildings, but it will take a long time to get things back to normal. Also, they were convening chiefs boards for upcoming promotions. They have been delayed indefinitely.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Well I am glad the promotions weren't touched or else Shawn would have to deal with waiting even longer for the E-4 he just got recomended for. I hope everyone doesn't have to wait too long for orders.

    Mel- Congrats and welcome and to the wives club!
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Okay, I'm catching up slowly, but surely. First of all, congratualtions to Melissa! You must be so happy! We need pictures!

    Sandra, your trip sounded wonderful!
    Slimsam, when are you going on your trip?

    Beverly, I'm glad I didn't read that post form the Navy mom yesterday. That would have done me in. I really appreciated reading that today. We're certainly not alone when we feel worried or just missing them so.
    PamMomofJustin, I'm so glad that you were able to see your son!

    We all feel the same, that's the main thing I can clearly see. God bless our Sailors and our Soldiers. I hope you all have a good day.
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Moms, Wives, do any of you have a pretty sure date of when your sailor may be coming home to visit? I think our son is coming home right around the 12th of June. I'm just trying to write these dates in stone in my head. This HAS been a long journey, hasn't it?
  • Arwen

    Navy/Army Mom, don't count on the June date at this point. He won't be coming home until he has his transfer orders, and I doubt the Tennessee facility where they create his orders will be cleaned up and operational by then. Even if it is operational by June 1, they will have a huge backlog of orders to fill.

    Chris graduates from IT school June 4, and should be coming home June 5. However, with the disaster in Tennessee (plus they might close his Florida school for a while the students clean up the oil spill), I'm not counting on seeing him until July at least.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Navy/ArmyMom, mine is home now for 2 weeks. He is doing the rap program so he doesn't have to use as much leave.

    Donna- Srry it took me a while to write back. We just need somewhere for her while we wait for housing but the problem is that she hates dogs bigger then herself. The temp lodging says they accept pets but from what I can see they won't be able to until the end of the year due to construction. There is a hotel right off the base that is the same price so we will probably be there.

    Oh and we got a call today about a meeting with the housing office in DC to discuss our options. This doesn't really sound good... I just hope they don't turn around and go, "Well you best option is to rent off base or you could waiting a long time for a house." We looked and looked and found very little that we liked and then very littler that we would be able to afford with the dog being a huge pain in my butt.
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Forgive me, Sarah, but what is the rap program? I know that you must be very happy that your sailor is home for 2 weeks!

    Beverly, and other mom/wife teachers...I saw the headlines in the Atlanta Constitution about the teacher cuts!! Should we expect much larger class sizes?! : (
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Colleen, thank you for that information. I just checked the mileage limit...is it 400 miles now for a weekend??. In other words, we're approximately 260 miles from Charleston. Could they travel by plane that far now?
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    It may not be a good time for them to take a weekend off...with the end of A School quickly approaching. What do y'all think?
  • Navy/ArmyMom

    Yes, happy for Mel!!
    Happy for Slimsam too!! He'll do just fine, a little bit of nervousness would be expected for something like that.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Navy/ArmyMom, the rap program is where they go back to their recruiting office and spend 5 days working for them. The days do not take away from their leave.

    Joymar, Thanks. With the hubby home and taking very good care of me, I am feeling a lot better.
  • Arwen

    Last night Chris said that he may be going undes after this week. He has fallen behind and, while his grades are not bad, he may have fallen too far behind for the school to allow him to continue.

    He's pretty devastated, but sees this thing in Tennessee as a blessing in disguise. He is hoping that since they can't cut any orders to send him elsewhere for a while, he can redouble his efforts and maybe they'll let him stay for a little while longer, and maybe he can prove himself. He desperately wants to stay with the IT rating. Even if he goes undes, he says will try to earn his way back to try again in two years.

    He should know today or Monday what his status will be. Friday is a mandatory "fun day" and school will be closed, he said.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Well its final. These next 2 weeks are going to go by really fast but be really long. Just like I thought, my parents are fighting for the dog. I get that they love her but I'm her mommy and she knows it. Every arguement they think of doesn't make sense. Why would we take a few hundred dollars and buy a new dog and move at the same time. Bella is trained and overall a very good dog. They keep telling us how expensive a dog is but they want us to buy another one and leave her here.

    Anyways, sorry for the rant. We got our pack out date for this up comming Tuesday. Then we leave on either the 17th or 18th. Is it sad that I just want out? Oh and I did apply to the university of maryland for the fall so let's hope I get in.
  • Arwen

    Good news, Chris really busted rear today and got another chance. I think it's going to be on a day-by-day basis, he has to continuously prove himself, but he is ready to do whatever it takes to stay in school.
  • RosaEdsmom

    The is verry good news.:))
  • Beverly

    Good news all over the place!!! I'm so glad to see everybody back!! :-)

    ((((((((((((((MELISSA!!!!!! :-)))))))))))))))))))) Congratulations to you and Sonny :-) I'm so glad for you!!! Wish I could give you a real hug. I'll just quote what my dad always says when he ends a phone conversation: "Tell to give you a hug around the neck and a kiss on the check for me> :-)
  • Beverly

    Arwen - I'm so glad that Chris is getting another chance. I'm praying he'll be able to get everything thing done in Navy time....I guess only the Navy can hurry up and WAIT - not sailors. :-)

    Sarah - I'm following your dog saga like its a mini-series.....let me know what happens to my furry-N4M niece (or is it a furry-N4M nephew)?
  • Beverly

    (((((((((((Sandra and Navy/Army))))))))))) praying for you both and for your children....thank you for sharing them with us, thank you for children who are brave enough and honorable enough to sacrifice to keep us free.
  • Beverly

    Navy/Army - The cuts are horrendous aren't they? They probably WILL mean larger class sizes. Class sizes are also affected by birthrate increases/decreases. We are going to four person teams rather than 5 person teams which WILL mean increase in class size in many cases. The rising 8th grade class at our school is rather small (birthrate) so our grade won't be so impacted ---- but the rising 7th grade class is HUGE....so the 7th grade teachers will be impacted next year (and us the following year).

    We haven't been told about contracts yet, or moves......I signed my evaluation this week and it was fine and our superintendent promised that "if you are doing a good job, and want to continue to work - you will keep your job."

    The cuts in Cobb county are horrific. I don't know what other counties are doing. The next county from us had huge cuts last year, and I think more are coming this year. :-(
  • Beverly

    I just realized you asked the question from a parental point of view and I answered it from an educator's point of view.....sorry about that.....suffice it to say.....everyone is worried - both parents and teachers.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Beverly and Colleen, I will give you more details so you can tell me if I'm such a bad person. My cat, who was the world to me, got ran over x-mas of '08 while I was out of state. They called us the day after to tell us. My parents bought Bella 2 months after that. Shawn and I got up every 2 hours to take Bella out and that was they doing. We had to go to training so my mom took her dog and we took Bella bc to her we are the alphas. We always take her to the dog park to social her. Everyone, including my parents, called me her mommy and she knows I am. Before left for bootcamp I could say Daddy's home and she would run down the stairs to meet him. She sleeps with us too. For the last yr, they said we could take her as long as we stayed in the states and so Shawn made sure that we got states.

    So far they have offered us $500 for her and that was to buy another dog. Every argument that they have, we have smashed. It is everything from dogs are expensive (but they want us to buy a new one) to she won't have a doggie door ( we still go out at night with her). My dad is having issues with the fact that we want the dog that we thought all along was pretty much ours. I might add that they pay for her bc they would never take any money offered. Last night I wouldn't talk to them about it bc the last few weeks I have been either been crying or having nightmares about it. My dad hasn't said a word to me in 2 days and my mom is trying to help us move hoping that we won't take the dog. Tonight we go to take Bella out and there is a note from my dad that my mom has no clue about. I think this is where I say, my mom is afraid of me never coming back. Well the letter was a bunch more questions and pretty much telling me that Bella, who asleep cuddled up to Shawn, is staying here no matter what. Shawn wrote some answers and questions and I know my mom doesn't know about it yet.

    So overall this would be the 2nd time they made me give up a pet. The last time was when I was in 5th grade and was told for 2yrs that I was going to get her back before they finally say they couldn't afford her. I am tired of losing pets and I honestly don't think that I could come back to visit. It would be like reopening the wound. So am I really that bad of a person to want to dog? Shawn is so ready to play dirty and they honestly only see what they want to see. Sorry it's a lot I'm just hurt.
  • Arwen

    I'm not Beverly or Colleen, but I do NOT think this makes you a bad person. If I were a judge, I would say the dog was a gift and you have every right to take her with you when you leave, and they are being grasping and controlling to make these threats.

    They may actually believe, subconsciously, that if the dog stays then you will too.

    It sounds to me like they purchased the dog for you expecting her to be a "leash" on your travels.You are leaving, and they want to punish you for that desertion. I doubt they even realize why they want to keep the dog.
  • Arwen

    That's a good way of putting it, "currently working out." I swear that boy is going to give me (more) grey hairs on this poor dyed head of mine. One week he's fabulous, the next week he's about to go undes, then he's back.

    I'm starting to wonder if it never was all that bad, or all that good, that he either reads more into what his teachers are telling him than what they're actually saying, or he's simply being a total drama king and exaggerating for the attention.

    If it really is that extreme of a see-saw in Pensacola for him, he's going to be emotionally exhausted by the time he comes home on leave, either as an IT or an undes.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Day ?.... Thanks for the support you guys. Shawn is fully set on Bella and it would be impossible to forget her. My mom did the letter/note this morning, our side at least, and so she wrote back about how she has love me since day 1 and everything she use to do. At the end she was like I don't want to not come back so you win. My mom on more then one occasion has said she was afraid I would leave and never come back and in the same I have always said then stop offering us money for Bella. My dad is only concerned with keeping Bella. I use to be his little girl and now I am just some bad person taking what is his. I don't to say it's me or the dog, but I honestly don't think I could come back while Bella was living. I know it isn't fair to her but I can't even look at her right now without crying. I am sure once we tell me mom why the letter/note was written she might calm down. At least if hell breaks lose we can leave and go to Shawn's mothers house. I guess I will update you later tonight when everyone gets home. Oh and Mel, I would just take her and leave but Bella is in their name....just like my car that I pay for.
  • Sarah (BooBoo)

    Okay, so after fighting yesterday and me walking out the house we have an answer. They are going to bring her up to us once we get settled in DC so probably July. They finally realized that they didn't want to lose me over the dog.
  • Arwen

    Ahem, I really wouldn't expect them to actually bring her. This sounds suspiciously like a trick. They fought awfully hard just to give in like that. They will find 101 reasons why they can't bring her. Been there, done that, lost the stuff.
  • Arwen

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