ALUMNI OF PIR 12/29/2011 TG 06 — 10 Divisions (021–028, 904 & 906)

This site is for families and friends of Salilor Recruits with PIR THURSDAY, December 29, 2011. This is a great way to share information, concerns and to connect as we continue the journey through bootcamp to PIR and beyond.

  • natalie'smom

    Is it just one division so far that is graduating on this date? I am also guessing that they will not be making it home for Christmas :O(
  • ArNavyMom

    Welcome Natalie'sMom.  It is not just one division.  I have only listed my son's (021) since that is the only one confirmed.  As others join and have their "form letter" I will add divsions.  Also, this time next week the official Navy website should have exact divisions that will be 12-29-11 PIR.  As for Christmas - it is not likely however I did read that they may get time away but can't be more than a few miles from the base.  I'll see what I can find out -
  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    No Natalie...there will be more...I've seen reports of a division 26, but have NO idea where they are in the scheme of things...holidays are new to me and I am trying to go on past info but the last two years are different from each other...I am boogieing trying to keep up with two PIR groups forming at the same time...LOL!

    RTC may not post this actual group for two weeks. Since they have skipped the week of the 23rd that would be TG 06 and you would be TG 07. They post new Tg on Mondays...so I hope all this info holds. We can just continue on...but always be prepared for change...and just go with it if it happens.

    I need chocolate...

  • natalie'smom

    FTL thank you for the information you have provided all of it has been so helpful. I second that I could use some chocolate too....

     

    AeNavy, Looks like our kids are together

  • ilovemysailor 009/021

    I know someone who got their address from their recruiter and is divison 26, no form letter though.

    I was very disappointed to hear we missed 12/16 by ONE divison, my SR is DIV 21 also. Guess we will just have to deal with it! He sounded very positive in his letter on the back of the form letter so that was good news!

  • momshousedivided2-Sh 09 Div 023

    Hello everyone. Looking forward to meeting y'all in December.
  • Jajajo

    Wow, that makes this group a 10 week BC? 
  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    Yeah...it does :-(.
  • ArNavyMom

    @ Jajajo and momshousedivided2 - welcome to the group and looking forward to meeting all in December.
  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    Just an FYI -

    This was posted today on RTC FB.

     Holidays during basic training

    QUESTION - my son will be in bootcamp during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Will he have any off-base liberty? Will training be longer?

     

     

    U.S. Navy Recruit Training Command

    The only recruits who will be granted off-base liberty for the holidays are those recruits who are eligible for the Adopt-A-Sailor programs held on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Families will have the opportunity to pick up their recruits in the morning, stay within 50 miles of the base, and return them in the evening.

    Otherwise, it's business as usual in boot camp and the recruits will be on holiday routine from 7 a.m. until 1 p.m. on both holidays.

  • Jajajo

    Thank you for the welcome :)  I have joined this group and the 12/16/11 PIR group until I get my son's letter.  Hopefully tomorrow.  He arrived late night on the 24th early morning 25th.  Since the PIR is 12/29 will the recruits get leave time since it is right before the New Year's weekend?  Aren't most training centers still on stand down for the holiday's?
  • ArNavyMom

    @ jajajo -

    I am sharing from FTLW (somewhat of a veteran at this!)

    This was posted today on RTC FB.

     Holidays during basic training

    QUESTION - my son will be in bootcamp during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Will he have any off-base liberty? Will training be longer?

     

     

    U.S. Navy Recruit Training Command

    The only recruits who will be granted off-base liberty for the holidays are those recruits who are eligible for the Adopt-A-Sailor programs held on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Families will have the opportunity to pick up their recruits in the morning, stay within 50 miles of the base, and return them in the evening.

    Otherwise, it's business as usual in boot camp and the recruits will be on holiday routine from 7 a.m. until 1 p.m. on both holidays.

  • Jajajo

    Won't they be done with BC after the 29th though?
  • ArNavyMom

    @ jajajo - yes, they will be finished with BC as the PIR is 12-29-11 however they may be eligible for Adopt a Sailor Thanksgiving and Christmas.
  • ilovemysailor 009/021

    Adopt a Sailor is only for Dec 2 and 16th graduates. This group will not be eligible for the Thanksgiving one but COULD be eligible for the Christmas one! They said they will send out information about it!
  • natalie'smom

    I got the form in the mail from my daughter today. My heart was pounding and my hands were shaking. Now I can't wait for the phone call home. I have been writing her since she left last week, so I put all the letters in one envelope and dropped it in the mail. She will have something to read from home with encouragement...She said her PIR is 12/29 as I expected from earlier today from other post
  • ArNavyMom

    @ natalie'smom - YAY!  i know when i checked the mail today and saw the envelope I had a huge gasp for air. A Gasp of relief!  More so when I read that he is fine.  I took the letter to his girlfriends house so she could read it as the "P.S." was for her.

    Like you, I've written every day.  I numbered them in the event he gets one before the other since I mailed 3 last week and 3 today.  lol

  • ArNavyMom

    @ FTLW - YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST!  Thank you for posting discussion topics for us.  I am still pretty green!
  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    You are welcome...actually that's my "job" on here! So don't worry about it!

     

  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    I will be posting this periodically in the beginning.

    Hello Everyone.

    Safety for your SR (future Sailor) and you!

    Sailors LAST names are NOT allowed anywhere on this site. If your last name is different from your sailors it is still not recommended.

    FIRST names ARE allowed but I, and some of the other “veteran” moms, will most often advise you not to use them. This is a public forum and anyone can read the posts-they do not have to be a member (if the group is set to private, the public cannot read but all N4M members can-so all you have to do is join) While they use their last names in BC (in fact they don't usually, if ever, find out each other’s first names until the end of BC), the RDC's know who they are and can then, with the right amount of info, link them up to you. So, let’s say you use your last name in your N4M name, post a picture of your SR...easy to match up...and so on.

    Why does that matter? Your SR's are trying to get through BC with as little undue attention as possible. "Fly under the radar", so to speak. There have been reports from moms of their recruits being matched up with them. Some are just identified…some get IT (Intensive Training), I am guessing this depends on WHAT is posted…I know of one mom who said that her son had to do 5 push-ups just for every time she posted!

    The MOST important reason for being discreet is OPSEC-Operational Security. This is a way of life for us now. It will be for your Sailors career and for some of them, even more so, depending on their individual security clearance. Some moms have mentioned that even today after years they do not know EXACTLY what their sailor does.

    SPECOPS...definitely need to be VERY careful.

    Here is a link to the "Community Guidelines" for N4M:

    http://www.navyformoms.com/forum/topics/navy-for-moms-n4m-community

     

    Here is the link for "OPSEC is everyone’s responsibility" specifically:

    http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=3342

     

    Here is a link to the video on OPSEC on this site:

    http://www.navyformoms.com/video/opsec-internet-safety

    Please take the time to review this information.

    Thank You.

  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    Now that you are getting your ship/divisions go ahead and start your divisional discussions in the Discussion Forum area above.
    Click..."+Add Discussion" at the bottom left in the area...its to the left also above the Comment box.
    Most just put in the Ship/Div as the title...like this "Ship ##/Div ##" ...without quotes and then you can type in a little greeting in the body of the post. Then other "moms" will be along to join in! It 's a great way to connect up with those in the same ship/div. Oh, we only need one Divisional Discussion per division please...so first one started will be the one kept.
    Remember, OPSEC and N4M Community Guidelines apply there also (anywhere on the site actually) .
    Also, make sure that you still check in on the main pages of the group here to connect up with the whole TG. We veterans are busy with about 7-8 PIR groups running at one time and so spend most of our time on the main pages of the group to answer questions and give advice.
  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    We're going a little backwards here as we had the two most current groups started at once.

    So some standard stuff...I just can't remember but there are several veteran moms on the PIR groups...diannep, LaLa Ribbon Queen (makes beautiful ribbons for you to purchase and wear to PIR), Betsy,momofPensacolasailor, Sandy's Sailor son, JessicaB SailorMom and myself. I'm the newaest been on since June. Sailor PIR'd in May of this year...so thank you for bearing with some of my inexperience!

    We are all here to help you!

    Please read the Community Guidelines and OPSEC rules and adhere to them. N4M's has a private messaging system for your use also.

    OPSEC is a way of life for your future Sailor and you as their family.

  • ArNavyMom

    @ Zink - WELCOME to the 12-29-11 group!

  • ArNavyMom

    WELCOME new members - TansMom and SailorDocsMom!  I noticed like most of us on this PIR page we were thinking (and hoping!) our recruit divisions missed the cut off for the 12-16.  I am looking forward to that first call and that first letter from my son.  My son signed Jan. '11 for HM Corpseman.  Y'all?
  • ilovemysailor 009/021

    Signed in march for Hospital Corpsman too! Hoping for the 12-16 PIR but missed it :(
  • ArNavyMom

    @ TansMom - did you call his recruiter? He/She should be able to key in your son's ss# and give you the information.  My son's recruiter sent him a letter already.  Knows my kid is a Cardinals and Arkansas Razorback Hog fan so he sent him some newspaper clippings.  So blessed to have that recruiter as I am seeing some on here that are not like that. 
  • Betsy, mom of Stennis sailor

    Good Morning Ladies, I'm another veteran that FTLW mentioned would also be helping on here.   I'm Betsy(momofPensacolasailor) and my son graduated from BC in Dec. 2010.  He is almost finished with his training in Pensacola and will most likely be getting his Orders in January.  I also have another sailor soon to be in our family.  My daughter's fiance is stationed in Hawaii and is on a nuke sub.  I hope I can help with any questions that you might have.  Welcome to our crazy (but wonderful) Navy life.
  • sailor doc's mom (S12, D030)

    Hi everyone. My son just left yesterday. I'm assuming his PIR will be 12/29 since I've been informed there is no PIR the week of Christmas. This is going to be tough....I've been wanting to pick up the phone and call or text him to remind him of "this" and tell him not to forget "that". One thing I am grateful for is he did take his phone with him (I know it's coming back in the bag with his clothes and shoes) and was able to call me when he landed in Chicago before going to get dinner. I loved every minute of that last 10 min call, it made the 15 sec one I got a few hours later easier to take.
  • ArNavyMom

    @ Sailor Doc's Mom - We can all empathize.  IT WILL GET BETTER.  Sounds so cliche.  But it will.  It was one week yesterday that my son left and his dad and I are much better this week.  I WAS a crying mess.  Okay, the truth is out now.  I felt like the deepest part of me was taken from my womb...by the Navy. (by my son's own choice!)  NOW, I am a very proud mom of a Navy Recruit.  What I could not teach him in 18 years the Navy will mold him into a man...into a U.S. Sailor.  The ladies on this site are terrific and full of wonderful advise for us that are new to the Navy. 8-)
  • Gcjp

    So I also joined 12-16 (hoping) and now looks like it will most likely be this group. My daughters recruiter told me she is on ship 02 / Div 906. I see that is the performance division. My guess is she got put in band, not sure if she is going to be happy about that. She hasn't played in 2 years. Does anyone know if that means she will not be out on the floor during graduation with everyone else? I'm guessing the band is off together seperate from them? I hope I'm wrong, I so wanted to see her down there with everyone. I am so hoping to get the letter today or tomorrow.
  • RuthL

    Thank you all for the wonderful wealth of information.  It is so nice to know there is support out there.  Friends and family have been great, but knowing we can talk to people who are going through the exact same things is a comfort.  My daughters form letter said (Ship 09 Div 22) any one else out there with the same?
  • ilovemysailor 009/021

    I don't think anyone from that divison joined yet. Add a discussion right about this that says "Ship 09, DIV 22" and people will go there and chat :) For now youre welcome to peek into the DIV 21 discussion. Only three of us but at least its someone!
  • ArNavyMom

    Welcome Gcip, RuthL, and AZ Navy Mom!!!!!

    @ Gcip - I do not know about the performance groups but we have a couple "veterans" on the site they may have the answer. 

    @ RuthL - you are so right!  though my family and close friends have been SUPER supportive, having others that are actually going thru this seperation is almost theraputic. lol  If one more person at the local Walmart or bank says - oh, it's just like sending your kid off to college.  UMMMMM - NOOOOOOOO.  IT IS NOT!  I do good to refrain and just send a smile...

     

    @ AZ Navy Mom - The letter will come soon.  Within in few days of the box.  Have tissue's handy! It is a joyous cry to just see your recruits handwriting.  I don't know about anyone else but I've read and re-read the envelope and my recruits personal note to his dad and I.  Can't tell you what anything else said (leaving that to my husband!) but I am comforted just looking at his handwriting.  8-)

  • ArNavyMom

    Welcome to the PIR 12-29 My Son and Jennifer!
  • Jennifer

    I got the box today, but still no letter.  I am like the rest of you, was hoping for the 16th, but will make do with the 29th.  I wonder if since he graduates then, if we will be able to spend New Years Eve with them.  He is staying in Great Lakes for A school, so he won't have to fly out.

     

  • natalie'smom

    Arnavmom, I know what you mean about reading the envelope and looking at my recruits handwriting. I have read her note over again several times. I almost lost it on my husband when I thought he misplaced it. You are right it is not just like sending your child off to college....Not even close

     

    You all have been very supportive and I look forward to the weeks to come with the support from everyone...

  • Craig

    Hey all,

    Just wanted to wish you guys well on your journey through boot camp.  Much like the veteran moms that are here to help you guys along, I'm also here to help you.  

    Yea, I'm a guy and sometime the Estrogen enriched area is overwhelming but I can handle it.... but I do have great news, I saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico.... 

  • FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW

    You big silly...welcome aboard Craig:

    Here will this help...

  • momshousedivided2-Sh 09 Div 023

    Ok! for some reason everything I tried posting last night would not work. Trying again this morning on my laptop.  Just wanted to say hi, good morning and all that stuff.  Don't remember half of what I wrote last night, so just will say I am really looking forward to December and meeting as many of the moms and their families as I can. It is nice to put names to faces. I really am not that big of a wreck this time- my oldest was going through Marine BC last year. Or at least I did not think so until we did not receive the form letter AGAIN in the mail yesterday. I 'bout bit my husbands head off about it. Like it was his fault or something. hehe Ok! maybe I am a little more concerned than I lead myself to believe. I know our kiddos are ok, but I still find myself thinking & wondering what they are doing/ going through at different times of the day.
  • diannep

    Good morning, all.  I'm another N4Moms veteran mom here, like Betsy and FTLW, joining to help you all.  I'm sure that Sandy and Lala will be along soon, in addition to other N4Moms veterans who are ready to help!  This is an exciting journey for you!

    Good to see Craig on here...retired Navy with lots of info! 

  • diannep

    Gcip:  Depending on what her "job" is with the 900 group, she could be performing at her PIR.  Some of the members of the 900 divisions are behind-the-scenes workers though.  They also participate in PIRs prior to their own.

    On those expecting to receive their SR's phones back in the box, be sure to check their shoes.  They usually separate the phone/battery and put them separately in their shoes.

  • diannep

    natalie'smom:  Just so you know...the mail is held from them for the first 2 weeks of bootcamp.  This is so that the Recruit Mail Petty Officer can be trained.  Many times, the first letters to you from the SRs say:  Why haven't you written?  Families get upset because many have written alot by then.  Now you know the reason...the letters are THERE but have not been delivered yet.  They usually receive them on a Sunday, 2 weeks after they have arrived.  That is usually when they are first allowed to write too.

    Also, we recommend that all wait for the form letter address before mailing letters.  Some get an address from the recruiters and use that to write immediately.  But sometimes the recruiters' addresses are incorrect.  Mail will still get there, but may take longer.  So if you still want to write to the address supplied by the recruiter, be sure to check it with the form letter address once you receive that.  Probably best to write your letters, have them all ready to mail, and slap on the form letter address when it arrives, mailing all the same day.  The SRs consider mail like "Christmas morning" and love to receive lots of letters are once!