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Paula (was Capricorna)
Aug 15, 2011
PNSCTNMom
try pensacolamls.com
Aug 15, 2011
CTmomof3
Aug 16, 2011
Paula (was Capricorna)
I suspect they call it "the Ghetto" with affection.
Aug 16, 2011
navymom3
C
Tmom- I think they all call it the Ghetto barracks because it is one of the oldest barracks. It doesn't look that bad from the outside. They are not allowed to have people in there room so we did not get to see the inside. But if he started out at NAS like my son did they do not look as nice as the ones at NAS. Our son did give us a tour of Corry this time and it isn't as nice as NAS but then it isn't as big either. But it will do since they are only there for training. I ca't believe my son only has 4 more weeks. He grads CTM A school on Sept 16th. I will be there if anyone needs pics of there sailor.
Aug 16, 2011
NavyMom4J
My sailor is saying that the shipboard training is difficult- harder for him than A school. Any one hear that from their sailors?
Aug 16, 2011
navymom3
Aug 17, 2011
Craig
Aug 18, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Craig he is trying for Korea but Hawaii is also on the list. We lived there for 3 years and that is where he signed up. So we are familiar with Hawaii.
Angie he is CTM. Glad that Dan is getting settled in. My son also put Ft Meade on his list for stateside but stateside is second on his list. He wants to go overseas.
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Holdfast- Depends on which base and which phase they are in. Usually liberty is called after class is over each day. If phase 1 they still have to muster every so many hours and cannot leave base. Phase 2 they can leave base but have to check out with a liberty buddy. And they have to muster by a certain time every night. Phase 3 they no longer have to muster on the weekend so they can check out at liberty call on friday and not come back until sunday night late.
At Nas anytime they leave the base they have to check out and check back in even in phase 3. At Corry once class is over they are free for the weekend unless they have duty. Corry is more relaxed than NAS.
Which base is your sailor at?
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
Craig
Holdfast - To see the phases (and a whole bunch of other stuff), go to the "Pages" area just below the various members pictures (ON THIS THREAD), and click on "Phase liberty for NAS and Corry".
NAS and Corry do the same thing, so that book applies for Corry too (or at least it did)....
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Holdfast she is on my friends list. You should be able to friend her from there.
A brown bagger is where they live off base but go to school. He will have to put in for it after he gets to Nas. Then there is no guarantee and they say it takes a while to get approved. What is his rate or job? It also depends on how long his school is.
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Aug 18, 2011
Paula (was Capricorna)
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
I had just thought he was going to NAS, I'm so confused =/
What did he do while he was waiting?
I was reading over the liberty site thing above and it said phase 2 my husband could come live with me.
I really hope he just gets someone who is understanding about the baby but I know that isn't very likely
Aug 18, 2011
Paula (was Capricorna)
HoldFast: If your Sailor is going to A School in Pensacola for CTR, then he will be at Corry Station, not NAS. He will likely Phase up very quickly like my son recently did (unless he goofs up).
My son was assigned a "job" cleaning the laundry room. He said it took all of 30 minutes/day. The rest of his time was free (unless he was assigned to do watch). That was before he classed up.
He said they have PT three times a week (early in the am before class starts), so between PT, school, studying, and cleaning the laundry room, he stays busy and enjoys the beach on the weekends.
If I were you, I wouldn't stress about the details - just go there. You need to be near him. It will work out.
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
There are actually 4 bases in Pensacola. The 2 our sailors go to for school are NAS and Corry Station. Some go to NAS first for a pre class but there is no pre class for CTR. All Ct and IT end up at Corry.
While waiting for class to start they do there indoc and get all there watch quals done. The sooner they get them done the faster they phase up. Then they do some barracks support if class has not started yet. They keep them busy while waiting for class to start.
Even if he can't live with you, you could probably see him everyday. Which is better than nothing.
Aug 18, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 18, 2011
navymom3
Aug 18, 2011
rorysmom(Ship13Div244)
Aug 18, 2011
calliecl
Aug 18, 2011
Craig
Holdfast - Just to clarify when navymom3 says "Some go to NAS first for a pre class but there is no pre class for CTR. All Ct and IT end up at Corry."....
What she is saying is all CTT (6 years) and CTM go to NAS for the 1st part of their "A" school. All CTI go to Monterey California for their "A" school. The CTT (4 years), CTN, CTR, (and IT) go straight to Corry.
The term "Brown-bagger" is mainly used by the Airdale community. In fact, the only time I've ever heard it outside that community was about 3 years ago, which is strange since I've been a CT for 34 years.
You have the right to move where ever you want in the U.S. You are an U.S. citizen. If you choose to stay in Pensacola, then you will get housing (BAH) allowance for that area. The Navy is required to pay you BAH for whatever area the dependents live. However, if the Navy doesn't approve you to live there, then they will make him stay in the barracks doing all the stuff that normal single sailors do. (ie muster 3 times a day, remain on base, etc....) So you might be in Pensacola, but you'd might as well be in Alaska because you wouldn't see him until phase 2, if he doesn't follow the Navy process of requesting you to be there.
Lastly, as much as you want to be there, you need to remember that he is there to learn his job. Sometimes the wife being there causes the sailor to fail his classes, which then the Navy will send them to the fleet designated. So a few months of pleasure will turn into a lifetime of misery. So choose what you do carefully. Don't expect him to spend a bunch of time with you. He has to learn his school, he might be in a study group each night.
Personally, I would try to be there (if I were you), however, I would also make dang sure he understands that you fully support him, even if you only see him a few hours each day. Don't rag on him if you're not seeing him much, remember, it was your choice to move there. Bottomline is to know all the rule and facts before you do anything in the Navy.
Aug 19, 2011
NavyMom4J
Aug 19, 2011
Craig
NavyMom4J - Tell your son to pass to his friend to look me up in Denver. I work with the Navy and can show him some really cool stuff when he gets here...
I will post some pictures tonight of NIOC Denver in the discussion area above...(when I have time)....
Aug 19, 2011
NavyMom4J
Craig- sounds good- I will let him know. I hope that my son can eventually meet you since I live in Lakewood- and when he come home on leave I will contact you.
Look forward to your post of NIOC Denver
Aug 19, 2011
calliecl
Aug 19, 2011
CTmomof3
Aug 19, 2011
Beachyblonde
@Holdfast: I just moved to Pensacola from Washington state because my husband is crossrating to CTN. We've been together since 2003 and he joined in 2006. While he was in his first A-school at NAS P'Cola I would drive down from Tennessee (I wasn't a dependent yet). I pretty much always stayed at the Blue Angel Recreation Park. They have little places you can rent for a day or a week. I always enjoyed it, but I haven't been back by there since then. They have a website you can check out though. I hope that helps! If you have any more questions, feel free to send me a message and I will try to help!
Aug 19, 2011
navymom3
Dee- congrats on getting contact with your son.
Beachyblonde- My oldest son moved from Whidbey NAS to Jax NAS in feb and he is AT also. Maybe they know each other. He was there for 4 years. My middle son is at Corry right now.
Aug 19, 2011
NavyMom4J
Aug 19, 2011
NavyMom4J
Aug 19, 2011
navymom3
Aug 19, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
@Beachyblonde- I wish I could just drive down there all the time but I'm pregnant and nearing the end, we wanted me to move there so if he can be there even if just for the birth he didn't have to go out of the area. Thank you though, it does help to know it can be done.
@Craig- I have made it very clear to him that if I am to go down there that school has to be the main focus of his and I will do everything and anything I can to support that. Apparently phase 2 he could possibly move in with me and I told him that if he thought living with a new born and me would be too much for him while he is trying to get things done then I want him to stay on base. I'm not doing this to be selfish, I'm doing this because I know that my husband and I know for a fact that since I have had health issues throughout my pregnancy he would be more at ease having me near. I will do whatever he tells me he is most comfortable with. I just need him to succeed and no matter what he decides to do I will support him completely beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Aug 19, 2011
navymom3
Aug 19, 2011
navymom3
Aug 19, 2011
Craig
CTmomof3 - Corry is basically only for the sailors fresh out of boot camp. They try to keep the fleet returnies away for them since fleet sailors are a different breed. We would corrupt them...Heck we corrupt ourselves!
So he would more than likely stay at the Gateway Inn located on NAS Pensacola. It's a really nice place and his per diem will cover the whole amount. He doesn't even need a Certificate of Non-Availability (CNA). They have 1100 rooms, yea, I said Eleven Hundred. Even though they have lots of rooms, he would be smart to go ahead and book a room reservation, and as the time comes closer he can just move the dates around. If he doesn't have a car, then they have a shuttle going back and forth.
The link to the Gateway Inn is www.dodlodging.net Just click on NAS Pensacola.
The Navy considers it a "PCS" school when course of instruction will be 20 weeks or more at one location. PCS school includes civilian colleges, Preparatory School,or other service academies. The 20-week limitation does not include holiday periods such as Christmas when no instruction is given.
The rule is on page 1-B-1
PCS_Move_is_20_weeks_or_more
Aug 20, 2011
Craig
HoldFast -
You said
I can tell you one thing for sure, I know why you're pregnant....
Aug 20, 2011
HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)
Aug 20, 2011
Craig
HoldFast - I'm sorry you haven't experience the Navy humor yet. Your husband will soon learn this same humor. Unlike the moms here, We sailors joke about everything. That's how sailors keep their sanity in the fleet.
I really do appreciate you thanking us for support, that's what we do here. We provide everyone with information about all the CT ratings. That's what all the members here enjoy. This group provides support to everyone. Yes, I totally understand your situation. Beleive me, I have worked so many issues with wives wanted to join their husband in "A" school.
Please understand I know how your sailor personality will change, they all change because we (the CT's) are such a tight knit community. Make dang sure you don't have a "short-fuse" with your husband if you decide to join him at "A" school. He needs to get through school, and needs your support.
If you choose not to post here anymore, that is your choice. However, I do hope, for the sake of your sailor, that you at least continue to be a lurker here. You will learn a lot of information to help your sailor.
Aug 20, 2011
Craig
Aug 20, 2011
CTmomof3
From past experience my son never asks the right questions because (he thinks) he knows all then finds out he didn't so that's the reason for my asking. It amazes me that he's so successful in his job but clueless in other things.
Hmm, so both my boys won't be living on the same base.
Aug 20, 2011
glassdog
Just want to let you all know I have really appreciated your help and information. The humor has to be there so we all don't scream in frustration at our inability to get accurate information from our sailors. I think many are just to used to saying"I don't know." or "That's what I heard." From this site I have been able to point my sailor in the right direction many times. Thanks again to all of you who do have and give us the information and help.(Many of you may not know, if you are a lurker, that Craig is on more than just this site to get info out to people. Dealing with the Navy info and so many people you better have a sense of humor!)
Also my sailor is heading for Hawaii on Tues. We have really enjoyed having him at home the last few weeks!
Aug 20, 2011
navymom3
Aug 20, 2011