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  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    Navymom3 - Thanks!  I found a bunch by Googling, but this helps too.
  • PNSCTNMom

  • CTmomof3

    Thanks for the info. I'll tell him about the BEQ manager. He's the type of kid that will never say anything no matter how I've tried in his life  to get him to speak up about things.  Navymom3, I didn't know if "ghetto barrack" was just what he called it but  now I guess not. That's awful.   Since you were there what's it like?
    Rorysmom makes me feel better it's not due to being dirty.  I was feeling so bad for him.
  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    I suspect they call it "the Ghetto" with affection.

  • navymom3

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    Tmom- I think they all call it the Ghetto barracks because it is one of the oldest barracks. It doesn't look that bad from the outside. They are not allowed to have people in there room so we did not get to see the inside. But if he started out at NAS like my son did they do not look as nice as the ones at NAS. Our son did give us a tour of Corry this time and it isn't as nice as NAS but then it isn't as big either. But it will do since they are only there for training. I ca't believe my son only has 4 more weeks. He grads CTM A school on Sept 16th. I will be there if anyone needs pics of there sailor.

  • NavyMom4J

    My sailor is saying that the shipboard training is difficult- harder for him than A school. Any one hear that from their sailors?

     

  • navymom3

    Just found out my son is still the top of his A school class with 98.77 average. So proud of him. He said he pulled ahead more after today's test. He said they only have 2 more units left. Now just waiting on his orders to see where he will go in 4 weeks.
  • Craig

    He should be able to select which orders he wants since he's #1 in the class.  That would be really cool!  Select Hawaii!
  • Angie (Dan's Mom)

    BZ to him navymom3  what is his rate again?  I know you told me before.  My son arrived at Ft Meade on Sunday and getting settled in   While he is waiting for his provisional clearance to get completed, he is going to be part of the Honor Guard there   He was having fun exploring the area  He went with some of his friends from Corry Station to the Inner Harbor in Baltimore Monday
  • navymom3

    Craig he is trying for Korea but Hawaii is also on the list. We lived there for 3 years and that is where he signed up. So we are familiar with Hawaii.

    Angie he is CTM. Glad that Dan is getting settled in. My son also put Ft Meade on his list for stateside but stateside is second on his list. He wants to go overseas.

  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but can anyone tell me once they get to school what their liberties are.
  • navymom3

    Holdfast- Depends on which base and which phase they are in. Usually liberty is called after class is over each day. If phase 1 they still have to muster every so many hours and cannot leave base. Phase 2 they can leave base but have to check out with a liberty buddy. And they have to muster by a certain time every night. Phase 3 they no longer have to muster on the weekend so they can check out at liberty call on friday and not come back until sunday night late.

    At Nas anytime they leave the base they have to check out and check back in even in phase 3. At Corry once class is over they are free for the weekend unless they have duty. Corry is more relaxed than NAS.

    Which base is your sailor at?

  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    Ah that figures, he will be going to NAS. I'm moving down there because I will be 31 weeks pregnant when he graduates from boot camp and if there is any possible way that I can be closer so if the chance of him getting to be there for her birth then I will do what I have to even though I've heard bad things about going but I've also heard positive things. Thank you for the info, that does help. If you have more I'm all ears, well, eyes but yeah I'm kind of in the dark trying to figure out what to do
  • Craig

    Holdfast - To see the phases (and a whole bunch of other stuff), go to the "Pages" area just below the various members pictures (ON THIS THREAD), and click on "Phase liberty for NAS and Corry".  

     

    NAS and Corry do the same thing, so that book applies for Corry too (or at least it did)....

  • navymom3

    I know that brittany proud navvy wife lives in Pensacola now. She was pregnant also when her husband was at BC. She can probably offer you some good advice.
  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    Thank you =)
  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    I will have to see if I can find her. I just saw something about a brown bagger status (charming phrase) anyone know anything about that from personal experience?
  • navymom3

    Holdfast she is on my friends list. You should be able to friend her from there.

    A brown bagger is where they live off base but go to school. He will have to put in for it after he gets to Nas. Then there is no guarantee and they say it takes a while to get approved. What is his rate or job? It also depends on how long his school is. 

  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    School is only 15 weeks. He will be a CTR. I don't mind the wait, I don't even mind if he doesn't get it as long as I'm near him
  • navymom3

    If he is CTR then he should go staight to Corry. Once he hits phase 3 then he can go stay the whole weekend with you. Just hope he gets day time classes. My son is on bravo schedule and starts at 1230 to 630 each day. I think he said Alpha class is from 6 to 1230. I may be off an hour or so.
  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    HoldFast:  My son PIR'd on 07/01/2011.  He went to Corry and had to wait 4 weeks to class up for CTR A School.  He got to Phase 3 two weeks after arriving at Corry.  He said they had a new CO and she is very "relaxed".  Hope this helps.
  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    I had just thought he was going to NAS, I'm so confused =/

     

    What did he do while he was waiting?

     

    I was reading over the liberty site thing above and it said phase 2 my husband could come live with me.

     

    I really hope he just gets someone who is understanding about the baby but I know that isn't very likely

  • Paula (was Capricorna)

    HoldFast:  If your Sailor is going to A School in Pensacola for CTR, then he will be at Corry Station, not NAS.  He will likely Phase up very quickly like my son recently did (unless he goofs up).

    My son was assigned a "job" cleaning the laundry room.  He said it took all of 30 minutes/day. The rest of his time was free (unless he was assigned to do watch).  That was before he classed up.

    He said they have PT three times a week (early in the am before class starts), so between PT, school, studying, and cleaning the laundry room, he stays busy and enjoys the beach on the weekends.

    If I were you, I wouldn't stress about the details - just go there.  You need to be near him.  It will work out.

  • navymom3

    There are actually 4 bases in Pensacola. The 2 our sailors go to for school are NAS and Corry Station. Some go to NAS first for a pre class but there is no pre class for CTR. All Ct and IT end up at Corry.

    While waiting for class to start they do there indoc and get all there watch quals done. The sooner they get them done the faster they phase up. Then they do some barracks support if class has not started yet. They keep them busy while waiting for class to start. 

    Even if he can't live with you, you could probably see him everyday. Which is better than nothing.

  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    Oh yea, I'm in TN right now so I wouldn't be able to see him at all if I didn't go but I am going to, just have to try and figure out how I'm going to do this with having to fly and needing to find some place relatively cheap. I guess I'm just nervous because this is the first time doing any of this on my own so all of the help really does mean a lot to me, thank you both so much.
  • navymom3

    Holdfast- The Ashton right across from Corry does rent by the week. Which may be a place to get started at. When my son's friend called I think it was 189 a week probably plus tax. You would have to call them as I don't think there website gives that rate.
  • rorysmom(Ship13Div244)

    Holdfast....unless things have changed when I was there in march son was able to leave Corry after class during the week and stayed with us at the hotel. I just had to have him back to the base at 615 am every morning. It wasn't just on weekends. Also his room mate never stayed at Corry. He lived off base with his girlfriend and just came back for muster and class. This was for a school and c school. Corry is much more laid back. Son is still there...leaves in September. so once your hubby gets thru indoctrination and into phase 3 he should be all yours! This is at Corry...not NAS.
  • calliecl

    My son graduated A school and doing his shipboard op class now and should finish up that the end of sept. Got verbal orders for San Diego and just wondering if anyone knows at what point they get their written orders? Trying to figure out when he will be home on leave?
  • Craig

    Holdfast - Just to clarify when navymom3 says "Some go to NAS first for a pre class but there is no pre class for CTR. All Ct and IT end up at Corry."....  

     

    What she is saying is all CTT (6 years) and CTM go to NAS for the 1st part of their "A" school.  All CTI go to Monterey California for their "A" school.  The CTT (4 years), CTN, CTR,  (and IT) go straight to Corry. 

     

    The term "Brown-bagger" is mainly used by the Airdale community.  In fact, the only time I've ever heard it outside that community was about 3 years ago, which is strange since I've been a CT for 34 years.

    You have the right to move where ever you want in the U.S.  You are an U.S. citizen.   If you choose to stay in Pensacola, then you will get housing (BAH) allowance for that area. The Navy is required to pay you BAH for whatever area the dependents live.   However, if the Navy doesn't approve you to live there, then they will make him stay in the barracks doing all the stuff that normal single sailors do.  (ie muster 3 times a day, remain on base, etc....)  So you might be in Pensacola, but you'd might as well be in Alaska because you wouldn't see him until phase 2, if he doesn't follow the Navy process of requesting you to be there.

    Lastly, as much as you want to be there, you need to remember that he is there to learn his job.  Sometimes the wife being there causes the sailor to fail his classes, which then the Navy will send them to the fleet designated.  So a few months of pleasure will turn into a lifetime of misery.  So choose what you do carefully.  Don't expect him to spend a bunch of time with you.  He has to learn his school, he might be in a study group each night.  

    Personally, I would try to be there (if I were you), however, I would also make dang sure he understands that you fully support him, even if you only see him a few hours each day.  Don't rag on him if you're not seeing him much, remember, it was your choice to move there.  Bottomline is to know all the rule and facts before you do anything in the Navy.  

  • NavyMom4J

    Calliecl-  My sailor too is in Ship board ops and will be done end of September- exactly in the same time frame as yours-and I bet they know each other! He has not heard his orders yet either. Some of the others in his class have their orders already- the only thing I can think is maybe depending on high their score was at graduation and what their rank is depends on the order of when they get orders? Mine son is CTT r yr. His friend got Denver and he was anxious to hear where he gets to go as he wanted Denver. I have no clue- Still waiting to hear for my son too and now he said it may not be until after C school. If anyone can pipe in with some insight it would be helpful. Could be it just depends on the needs of the Navy and all the logistical issues involved in placing our sailors.
  • Craig

    NavyMom4J - Tell your son to pass to his friend to look me up in Denver.  I work with the Navy and can show him some really cool stuff when he gets here...  

    I will post some pictures tonight of NIOC Denver in the discussion area above...(when I have time)....

  • NavyMom4J

    Craig- sounds good- I will let him know. I hope that my son can eventually meet you since I live in Lakewood- and when he come home on leave I will contact you.

    Look forward to your post of NIOC Denver

     

  • calliecl

    NavyMom4J - I bet they do know each other! My son is 4 year CTT too. He did get verbal orders for San Diego but I know that until they get written orders it can change. Would just love to plan for his leave. Wonder how soon they get to leave Pensacola after they finish C school? Hopefully they are not put on hold. It's been a long time since I have seen him.
  • CTmomof3

    Craig oh knowledgeable one. Can you make sense of this for me?  My older son (just signed up for another 3yrs) has orders to Japan in March. However,  before he goes he has a 5/6mo C school at Corry starting mid Sept. He's married and they live in GA.  Now, they just found out his wife can not go to Corry with him so she's moving back here with her parents. Why is she not allowed to go to Fla with him does he not get BAH for the time in Fla?  Do they house guys like him with all the "newbies" or does the Navy have him live off base?
  • Beachyblonde

    @Holdfast: I just moved to Pensacola from Washington state because my husband is crossrating to CTN. We've been together since 2003 and he joined in 2006. While he was in his first A-school at NAS P'Cola I would drive down from Tennessee (I wasn't a dependent yet). I pretty much always stayed at the Blue Angel Recreation Park. They have little places you can rent for a day or a week. I always enjoyed it, but I haven't been back by there since then. They have a website you can check out though. I hope that helps! If you have any more questions, feel free to send me a message and I will try to help! 

  • navymom3

    Dee- congrats on getting contact with your son.

    Beachyblonde- My oldest son moved from Whidbey NAS to Jax NAS in feb and he is AT also. Maybe they know each other. He was there for 4 years. My middle son is at Corry right now.

  • NavyMom4J

    calliecl- yes- I remember him telling me of where others were headed that got orders and one was San Diego- but fwon't mention names here- San Diego was another place he put in for on his Dream list- He passed in the 90 % ranged but not top 90%.
  • NavyMom4J

    Dee-- how awesome! I wish him well! "Fair winds and following seas and long may your big jib draw!"
  • navymom3

    I smile- It stands for Cryptology Tech Maintenance. My son has that job.
  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    @Beachyblonde- I wish I could just drive down there all the time but I'm pregnant and nearing the end, we wanted me to move there so if he can be there even if just for the birth he didn't have to go out of the area. Thank you though, it does help to know it can be done.

     

    @Craig- I have made it very clear to him that if I am to go down there that school has to be the main focus of his and I will do everything and anything I can to support that. Apparently phase 2 he could possibly move in with me and I told him that if he thought living with a new born and me would be too much for him while he is trying to get things done then I want him to stay on base. I'm not doing this to be selfish, I'm doing this because I know that my husband and I know for a fact that since I have had health issues throughout my pregnancy he would be more at ease having me near. I will do whatever he tells me he is most comfortable with. I just need him to succeed and no matter what he decides to do I will support him completely beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  • navymom3

    I smile-  My son loves it so far. First they go to NAS and do the Att pre class. Then they go to Corry station for there CTM class. When he got there is March he was told he would probably be there about 18 months because there was a wait for classes. But he will grad CTM class sept 16th. I think he waited about 5-6 weeks before his ATT class started. But everyone seems to be different. Some wait less and others more. But they will keep him busy while he waits. They have to get all there watch quals done then they do barracks support.
  • navymom3

    Holdfast- Sounds like you have your head on right for him to succeed. My oldest son had a very needy GF then wife while he was at school and it slowed him down at the end. But my middle son has no distractions and is doing great.
  • Craig

    CTmomof3 -  Corry is basically only for the sailors fresh out of boot camp.  They try to keep the fleet returnies away for them since fleet sailors are a different breed.  We would corrupt them...Heck we corrupt ourselves!

     

    So he would more than likely stay at the Gateway Inn located on NAS Pensacola.  It's a really nice place and his per diem will cover the whole amount.  He doesn't even need a Certificate of Non-Availability (CNA).  They have 1100 rooms, yea, I said Eleven Hundred.  Even though they have lots of rooms, he would be smart to go ahead and book a room reservation, and as the time comes closer he can just move the dates around.  If he doesn't have a car, then they have a shuttle going back and forth. 

    The link to the Gateway Inn is www.dodlodging.net  Just click on NAS Pensacola. 


    The Navy considers it a "PCS" school when course of instruction will be 20 weeks or more at one location. PCS school includes civilian colleges, Preparatory School,or other service academies. The 20-week limitation does not include holiday periods such as Christmas when no instruction is given. 

    The rule is on page 1-B-1

    PCS_Move_is_20_weeks_or_more

  • Craig

    HoldFast - 

    You said

    • " I will do everything and anything I can to support that."
    • "I will do whatever he tells me he is most comfortable with."

    I can tell you one thing for sure, I know why you're pregnant....

  • HoldFast86 (Ship 12 Div 325)

    Thanks for taking something that is not easy for me a making it a joke. I wont be coming back to this group, thanks for the 'support'
  • Craig

    HoldFast - I'm sorry you haven't experience the Navy humor yet.  Your husband will soon learn this same humor. Unlike the moms here, We sailors joke about everything.  That's how sailors keep their sanity in the fleet.   

    I really do appreciate you thanking us for support, that's what we do here.  We provide everyone with information about all the CT ratings.  That's what all the members here enjoy.  This group provides support to everyone.   Yes, I totally understand your situation.  Beleive me, I have worked so many issues with wives wanted to join their husband in "A" school.

    Please understand I know how your sailor personality will change, they all change because we (the CT's) are such a tight knit community.  Make dang sure you don't have a "short-fuse" with your husband if you decide to join him at "A" school.  He needs to get through school, and needs your support. 

    If you choose not to post here anymore, that is your choice.  However, I do hope, for the sake of your sailor, that you at least continue to be a lurker here. You will learn a lot of information to help your sailor.  

  • Craig

    I posted some pictures of NIOC Denver on the Pages area (the link below all the members pictures).  I still have another 10, that I will post later....
  • CTmomof3

    Thanks for the info Craig. but I'm still a tad confused. Why can't his wife go? They have an apartment, appears as of now (we know how things change) they are giving that up he's going to fla and she's movivg back to her parents. Can't she at least stay in ga (or does he lose the bah) and then when schools done they navy moves them to japan? Do their belongings get stored now and then shipped over in feb/march? I know they can't take any vehicle to japan so his...brand new loaded, way too expensive truck with a huge loan.is being stored and her vehicle is going to her parents for 3 yrs. Ok so,can you tell I think he made a bad decision on buying a truck? Lol To me it would make more sense and less hassle for her to stay in ga...he goes to fla...then they do a pcs move.
    From past experience my son never asks the right questions because (he thinks) he knows all then finds out he didn't so that's the reason for my asking. It amazes me that he's so successful in his job but clueless in other things.
    Hmm, so both my boys won't be living on the same base.
  • glassdog

    Just want to let you all know I have really appreciated your help and information.  The humor has to be there so we all don't scream in frustration at our inability to get accurate information from our sailors.  I think many are just to used to saying"I don't know." or "That's what I heard."  From this site I have been able to point my sailor in the right direction many times.  Thanks again to all of you who do have and give us the information and help.(Many of you may not know, if you are a lurker, that Craig is on more than just this site to get info out to people.  Dealing with the Navy info and so many people you better have a sense of humor!) 

    Also my sailor is heading for Hawaii on Tues.  We have really enjoyed having him at home the last few weeks!

  • navymom3

    I have also got loads of information from this site. I know my son appreciates me knowing some of the answers to his questions. He has even had me ask a few questions on here for him. He says "Mom ask those navy moms for me will ya" Or more "Ask that retired CTM guy on your site for me" aka Craig.