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And the newest rating - CWT - Cyber Warfare Technician.

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  • Craig

    Lisa - Phase 2 he can have a car.  Drive it down so he can experience things off base. So many sailors just remain on base, and end up saying Pensacola sucks because they never get out and do anything.  They have their whole life to play WOW, so do that later, experience Pensacola and the surrounding areas.  

     

    Lady H - Yea, I kind of messed that up when I look back on how I wrote it.  My intent was to say about O'brynt that was just a mere 3rd class that was only in the Navy in 1 year.  Sad, but this is what terrorism does.  May he rest in peace. 

     

    Japanmom - EML leave is Environmental and Morale leave.   Like you said, it allows you a higher priority for Military Airlift Command (MAC) flights.  I used it alot while in Scotland...

    Here is a great link for MAC flights.  It gives you recorded messages for flight within 48 hours.

    http://www.baseops.net/spaceatravel/

    Here is the offical instruction

    http://www.pacom.mil/web/PACOM_Resources/pdf/j131%20-%20EML%20Instr...

  • Angie (Dan's Mom)

    CTMom   thanks for the info about IA  As time goes on I may have more questions for you.   I know he is pretty excited about it, his girlfriend not so much   and he knows that I worry but sometimes if you say too much they just do the opposite  We'll just have to wait and see and pray
  • Craig

    Here is the Navy official info on IA duty

    http://www.ia.navy.mil/

  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    I have not a clue if it was volunteer or not, knowing my son it was LOL ( he is all about adventure). He is as all of them completely tight lipped  about everything job related. He is gone now and have not a clue where LOL! His friend is picking out his off base apt for him. He does have his cell phone with him so I can call! I know he is fine and having a great time which is all I care about, he was suppose to come visit this weekend but he is gone until Oct so I hope for a Halloween visit.
  • G'sproudmom

    Ok my first time having a question. My son graduates on the first(CTT) and leaving NAS for some more training before he gets to his final destanation, Kaneohe. So question is....does he have to pay to ship his things home or does the Navy?
  • CTmomof3

    momoffour is he a CTT,CTR,CTN etc? My son was with the Army do you know what branch he's going over with?
  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    CTN. I know he is going with guys from several branches and maybe a civilian or two. Trying to get a hold of him and several other family members after the earthquake but no luck so far.
  • Angie (Dan's Mom)

    Debbie and momfofour   I also talked with my son for a few minutes who is on base at Ft Meade   He said everything there was fine, no injuries just phones sporadic   He was able to get on facebook briefly and posted that he was outside learning a rifle drill for the honor guard when the earthquake hit.   He then called but we also got disconnected   So my guess is everyone is trying to call everyone and its a back jam

     

  • Craig

    G's - A sailor can allows send stuff to his Home of Record.  Or, if you don't have the room, he can send it to non-temporary storage for the entire time he's at Hawaii.  Or, he can ship the stuff to Hawaii. The Navy will ship it for free.  However, he could rent a truck and ship it himself, and make a couple bucks, but to me, it's not worth it.  I'd rather see someone else do all the work while I'm watching drinking a beer.  

    Alot of people don't understand Non-Temporary stowage, so here is the rule (remember this is a Joint travel instruction, so it doesn't matter if you're Army, Navy, Marines, or Air Force.

    http://www.belvoir.army.mil/jppsowa/text/pstorage.html

    read this too...

    http://www.belvoir.army.mil/jppsowa/text/plinks.html

     

  • Betsy, mom of Stennis sailor

    Well, my son got his dream sheet today.  Choice #1, San Diego, #2, Hawaii, #3 Everett.  Not sure how I feel about it, since I'm on the east coast.  :(  Oh well, I'm at least hoping he gets one of his choices.  He said he should know in a few weeks.  I hope so, since he graduates A school on Sept. 23.  lol  

    G'sproudmom, maybe he will see your son there soon.  :)  

  • Craig

    Betsy - Is he a 4year CTT?  The reason I ask is usually the CTT's that go to "C" school get those duty stations...
  • Betsy, mom of Stennis sailor

    Craig, yes he is 4 year.  If that's the case, then why would they even give him the dream sheet?  Kinda seems senseless to me.
  • Betsy, mom of Stennis sailor

    I'm just hoping that they don't send him to Japan.
  • NavyMom4J

    Question then: I am confused to what is "C" school- My son said he is in Shipboard ops (currently taking) and sometimes refers to it as like a part of C school? But he just got orders to San Diego- assigned to USS Lake Champlain- (and will be going to Sea for part of this time I am sure) . He is 4 year CTT.  He put down San Diego as his 3rd choice on his dream sheet.

  • Craig

    Betsy - I totally agree, why do they give them dream sheets?  Basically they are teaching them how to fill out the dream sheet.  In most cases duty stations are given out by class rank.  However, sometimes they don't, this is where the dream sheet comes into play.  This is why I have preached so many times that I think a sailor without a CAC card reader is a fool.  

    Him being a CTT operator means he has alot better opportunity of going to a shore station than a ship.  The duty stations you gave were all ships.  Now if you're a CTT technical (6 years), you basically know you have no hope going to a shore station.  You're "Haze grey, and underway".

     

    NavyMom - He will know if he got a "C" school or not.  Have him tell you what Naval Enlistment Code, normally called NEC code.  Then you know exactly what he does.  

    If you look at this link, and hold down the "Ctrl" and hit "F" a find pop-up will display.  Seach for CTT.  Then you can see the codes they are assigned.  This is how I know what flavor of CT they are.  That code is like a dead give away on what they do.  

    I truly was doubting if I should post this link because it will probably really confuse you.  But I'm going to do it anyways.  Why?  Because my wife hasn't beaten up on me for a while, so I will let you ladies pitch hit for her and kick me in the "jimmy" also....~ha

    http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/nec/NECOSVolII/Docu... 

  • Craig

    Susan - Both glassdog and I met Molly while she was here in Denver,  She is an awesome lady.  I'm glad she got the money to help the sailors....Glad Pepsi recognized her efforts..
  • idahojeep

    Betsy - my twins are both going to Yokosuka Japan and they have found out from most that it is an excellent duty station.  Many do not want to come home.  They are excited to go.  FWIW.
  • calliecl

    Navymom4J - I am confused too. My son is also a 4 year CTT and his orders for San Diego also on a destroyer. Maybe that's where the needs of the navy are right now? Well he is excited. Was one of his top choices but I don't think he ever filled out a dream sheet.
  • mumziepooh

    Hey guys!  All of you east coasters - praying for your safety!  We do hurricanes in Houston - in fact we would LOVE one right now!

    Son and husband just arrived in Washington - he checks into Whidby tomorrow - he is excited.  He was home for 2 weeks for leave and told me that he is going to try to either work with the SEALS or go IA.  Sigh.  I knew about the SEALS thing but had hoped he wouldn't want IA.  So, thanks for the info, Craig!

  • calliecl

    So excited! Just got a call from my son.  Got his written orders today for San Diego! USS Milius.  Home on leave for first 2 weeks of October.  Can't wait - haven't seen my son since last Christmas!
  • rorysmom(Ship13Div244)

    Hi all...Craig, son got Arleigh Burke... 6 yr CTT...any thoughts?
  • Craig

    rorysmom - My advise would be buy "Soap on the Rope" so he doesn't drop the soap in the shower....  

    Actually, that was suppose to be a joke, but now that I think of it, Gays are allowed to serve as of September 20th, so maybe "soap on the rope" wouldn't be a bad idea...

    Being a sailor, my interest is what the Burke can actually do.  Being a mom, you could really careless what I have to say about this but I'll say it anyways...

    Actually, the Burke is so much better than the Spruance class destroyer that I was on. On our class ship the CIWS mount can only fire to Starboard. On the Burke class they can fire to either port or starboard, which is really cool.  

     

    Your son has earned the NEC of 1702, which would really freak out your kid that you knew that.  Heck I bet he doesn't even know that.

    http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/nec/NECOSVolII/Docu...

     

    Just to tell you the difference between all the CTT's, here is the various systems they repair/operate.

     

    SLQ-32(V)1 – A simple threat warning receiver, it was capable of receiving high-band radar signals of the type commonly carried on missiles and aircraft.  The (V)1 was installed on auxiliary ships and small combatants such as frigates. This variant of the system is being phased out as current ships equipped become decommissioned.

     

    SLQ-32(V)2 – Initially the most common variant, the (V)2 added the ability to receive surveillance and targeting radars. This provided a passive targeting capability for Harpoon missile-equipped ships. The (V)2 was installed on frigates, destroyers, and 270-foot (82 m) Coast Guard Cutters.

     

    SLQ-32(V)3 – Expanding on the (V)2’s capabilities, the (V)3 added active radar-jamming capability.  The (V)3 was installed on various combatants such as cruisers, battleships, large amphibious ships and high-value replenishment vessels.

     

    SLQ-32(V)4 – Designed for installation on aircraft carriers, the (V)4 consisted of two (V)3 systems, one for each side of the ship, tied to a common computer and display console. Additional line replaceable units and software were added to support the wide separation of the two antenna/electronics enclosures.Sidekick jamming antenna on USS Ford (FFG-54) part of (V)5.

     

    SLQ-32(V)5 – The (V)5 was built as a response to the Stark incident in 1987. The (V)5 incorporated a compact version of the (V)3 system intended to give active jamming capability to the Perry class FFG’s, which were too small to carry a full (V)3.

    http://tech.military.com/equipment/view/89176/ddg51---arleigh-burke...

     

    So, I think it's really cool from the Navy side of stuff.  I'd rather be there that on some carrier....

  • rorysmom(Ship13Div244)

    Lol Craig...thanks for info...
  • boilermom

    Ok everyone, I have a strange question. My son is now in his last week of BC and in a letter he states "I'm going to claim residency in Alaska, it has benefits..". What the heck is he talking about? I never quite know when he is serious or kidding but he is usually looking for any way that he can make money. We live in Ohio btw. Thanks! One more week before officially joining this group!
  • Angie (Dan's Mom)

    @boiler   My guess would be it would have something to do with taxes...maybe take a look at the link that Craig posted up above  http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/forum/topics/most-sailo...

     

    Although I think you must have a address in the state that you claim residency in...Florida might be a better choice

  • Craig

    Good job Angie!!!!  That is exactly correct!

    It's good to see that people actually read the stuff I post...  

     

    Angie is 100% correct,  He cannot change his residency if he doesn't have an address for that state.  Alot of sailors were changing their residency to Alaska way back in the 1970's since Alaska was paying them each year for the great Oil payout.  But Alaska got wise, and shut that off within a year.  

     

    As Angie said, he really needs to change his residency to Florida, but only if his present state make him pay taxes.  If his present state doesn't, then there is no reason to change.  

    For example, I'm from Colorado.  My state milks every dime off of people.  It doesn't matter if you don't live in Colorado your entire time while in the Navy, you must still pay taxes on your military income.  So when I was in "A" school in Pensacola I just changed my residence (along with 1000's of others) to Florida.  I never paid a dime for the next 18 years for state taxes.  It kind of tickes me off how a state would charge a military member for using roads, and upkeep of the state if they don't reap the benefit from that.  Once I retired, then I change my residence back to Colorado since that is where I'm living.

     

    The bottom-line is Don't change it, unless you pay taxes where you are presently from.  The topic will show you the easiest way is to make a will.  

     

    I am soooo happy I did it! 

  • G'sproudmom

    Thank you Craig your info really helped. I will let my son know next time I speak to him, which I hope is soon. He wont hit his finale station until March, so im looking already at flights to Hawaii next summer. Yeayyyyyy
  • navymom3

    Gsmom- Since you are in sacramento Hawaiian airlines flies out of there. Sign up for the flyer program and they will send you specials when they have them. Plus you can get some free flights after you get enough points.
  • Betsy, mom of Stennis sailor

    Good to know, Idahojeep.  Thanks!  I'm sure he will be happy wherever he goes.  I just want to keep him closer.  :)  

    Well, I guess anything is possible, since it does seem as though 4 years do go to San Diego.   My son told me that they change things up every few months, so maybe this is the time for him to get his "dream"   It's always a wait and see game in the Navy and we will know soon enough.   lol   

  • Craig

    Woo-hoo.... Can't wait until next week.  I have a VIP coming to my work, which is my nephew who's in CTT "C" school.  He here for the long holiday weekend and he will get his 1st peek at what CTT's really do in the field...  

    Man, I will giving him the complete brief.  I hope he brings his roller blades, because I want to show him what the maintenance guys do.  Man, no one at his command will believe him once he gets back...  Woo-hoo!

    He will have the "deer in the headlights" look....

  • boilermom

    Craig, Angie, and Clockard-Thanks for the info about state residency. I will look into it and send my SR the info. I can't wait to see him next week for his PIR. Then it's on to Correy Station! Get ready for my barrage of questions over the next few weeks ha. This group, along with the others on the website, has really been a godsend.
  • momKdiv938-daughterK

    You can change residancy once now in the service.  To change and get an address, like for Colorado, go to Wyoming, get adrivers licence, a PO bow AND street adrress, by using a mailboe plus outlet.  The physical address works for UPS, etc, and how ever often, they will foreward your mail to any address.
  • Craig

    Good luck to those sailors that are about to take the advancement test.  

    The easy way to remember when the test is:

    1st class test is on the 1st Thursday of the month (Mar or Sept)

    2nd class test is on the 2nd Thursday of the month (Mar or Sept)

    3rd class test is on the 3rd Thursday of the month (Mar or Sept)

     

    Good luck son!

  • navymom3

    Good luck to your son Craig. My oldest takes his 1st class test in March.
  • Craig

    Lady - I'm not 100% positive, but I think your daughter falls into a weird rule that applies to the SCORE program, which I think is what your daughter is doing.

    But like I said, I'm not 100%.  You need to ask your daughter what program she's doing to cross rate (I think it's SCORE but the Navy might have another).

    Here is the rule for the SCORE:

     

    14.  Navy-wide Examinations    a.  PO1’s will not be eligible for further advancement except by Navy-wide competitive examination in the new rating after conversion is completed.  In this regard, PO1’s receiving official notification of advancement must voluntarily disenroll from the SCORE program or decline advancement.     b.  Personnel under instruction in a Class “A” School intended to prepare them for rating change are prohibited from participating in a Navy-wide examination for change in rating or advancement.  All personnel ordered to Class “A” School for rating conversion may participate in the advancement program for their present rating, if otherwise qualified, until the class convening date; however, if selected for advancement, a request must be submitted to NAVPERSCOM (PERS-4811/4812) for authority to effect the advancement to the next paygrade in the new rating.

    http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/110...

     

    Per the testees comment:

  • Craig

    Lady - More info.. Look at Page 2-12

    http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/instructions/BUPERS...

     

    and since I gave more info on that, then I have to give more info on this:

     

    It took me along time to figure out how a woman's brain works.  It finally can be explained here in one, easy-to-understand illustration:

     

     

    With a woman, every one of those little blue balls is a thought about something that needs to be done, a decision or a problem that needs to be solved.
     
     A man has only 2 balls and they take up all his thoughts.

  • glassdog

    Finally found out where my son lives on Oahu!  Not Schofield base as his orders read, but in a town that starts with a w and that I can't pronounce!  Once again you guys with the info were right on!  He says they have a small fridge and microwave. a communal kitchen, and best of all the swimming pool is across the street from him.  The bad news is there aren't a lot of places to eat in the area but the one restaurant that is there is very reasonably priced.  The bad news with that is they are only open monday thru friday.

    They us the NEX at Schofield Barracks, but so far they haven't used the galley, and he of course hasn't asked if they can us the galley.  However hours may not work with his schedule anyway!

    He finally got everything signed. Took a whole week!

    Also has anyone ever heard of a sailor that goes in as an E3 and is getting ready to test for E4 who has had to go back and get his college transcripts again?  Mine found out on the 24th that he had to have an official copy to some area in Virginia by 9/1!  I finally called his recruiter who went down to MEP's and dug out their copy and overnighted it on Monday so my son can test on 9/15.  The recruiter said he had never had this happen before!

  • sunshine73

    I have been reading through all the posts that I missed since we lost power on Friday. Reading the posts has been a bright spot for me. This group always makes me smile.  Irene pretty much destroyed my county due to flooding :( We have had many hurricanes here but this was the worst that anyone can remember. I have been without power for 5 days now but I hate to complain because so many (my parents included) have lost everything. Our schools have been closed until further notice and one is destroyed. over 400,000 homes were without power and they have it down to 36,000 now.  Don't listen to the National media when they tell you this was a non event. I am thankful that the other states were spared but it seems that everyone has forgotten about NC. Even our Gov. Perdue took a quick tour of the outer banks and told tourists to come on back. She quickly ate her words and took a tour of my county the next day. She stands about a snowballs chance in hell of getting re-elected. The Red Cross and National Guard are here and they are doing an excellent job distributing goods to folks. It took until today for our area to be declared a disaster area. The Red Cross is taking donations bookmarked for Irene relief. I am asking anyone who can please donate.
  • navymom3

    Glassdog could the town be Wahiawa. That is the area where they built the new building. It is pronounced Wha-he-wha. In Hawaii if it starts with a w the w gives the w sound. But if the w is in the middle of the word it makes a v sound. We started living in Ewa Beach which is pronounced eh-va. He will get the hang of how they pronounce things.

    Also there are places in Wahiawa to eat he must be on the outskirts of town only. It's not that big but a lot of tattoo shops and girl clubs.  

  • mumziepooh

    {{{{sunshine}}}}been praying for you guys.  Go see your boy and feed him...he is just withering away!  Take a warm shower, sleep in the AC and blow dry your hair - all those things we take for granted until God shows us his power and we have to do without.  

    So....son is at Whidby - I've spoken to him quite a few times.  He likes the area - pretty peaceful there - except when the planes land or take off which is all the time.  He is going for some training in Pittsburgh...in fact he has lots of training lined up so he won't be there much.  Pittsburgh?  I wonder what is there?  He tells me NOTHING.  So I ask nothing!

     

  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    If a Sailor tests in sept, how long before he finds out if he get the promotion?
  • navymom3

    Momoffour- My son said you don't find out until december. Then as for the pay it could be as late as june 15th of next year, then divide it up 10% get paid each month, then the rest at the end. The high you score the sooner u get paid
  • Craig

    navymom - They actually just changed that rule about 10% per month.  Now (as of Oct 2010) it's only 3%.  It was a money saving measure.  

     

    momoffour - As navymom says, they will find out in December.  However, last year they found out at Thanksgiving (I think it was last year?).  They can then be "Frocked", but they won't actually get paid until their increment comes up (Jan thru Jun).  

    See more info in the "pages" section (under the members pictures above)

  • navymom3

    Thanks Craig i will let my son know about the 3%. He doesn't get to test until march for E6.

  • NavyMom4J

    Sunshine73- so very sorry to hear of the conditions and loss so many are experiencing in your area, and other areas hit by the hurricane. Prayers coming your way and hopes that recovery does not take too long- glad you are ok.

  • sunshine73

    thanks for all the prayers. We just got power back on today. We were gonna go to P'cola this weekend but now there is a storm there. Geeze. Don't know what to do.
  • navymom3

    My son got verbal orders today to Yokosuka, Japan. And it is shore duty also. It is exactly where he wanted to go. There were only 2 orders available for his class at this time and he got one of them. The other one was for Whidbey Island and he didn't want the west coast but the other guy did. He is so excited and we are so proud of him. Guess we will have to save for a trip to Japan. Probably cheaper for him to come here.
  • NavyMom4J

    sunshine- my sailor supposed to come home this weekend- hope the storm does not prevent him from coming. Looks like it says it will start raining tonight and through the whole weekend. I don't know how bad it is supposed to be in P'cola..
  • Craig

     

    My son said the advancement test was hard!  But he said everyone thought it was hard, so hopefully that's a good thing.  Everything seems about equal for all of them.  The award points that the more senior people have are offset with my sons EP evaluations & points.  So everything is about equal.  Now it's a long wait till Thanksgiving to find the results... (thanks clockard for reminding me it was last year at Thanksgiving they found out).  

    Good luck to those going for up for E5 next Thursday!  Woo-hoo....

     

    navymom - Japan shore duty would be awesome.  What would be cool is if he shipped a nice muscle car over there.  He would make quite a bit of $$$.  Those japanese have alot of money to burn, and since it's free to ship, he would do real good.  He should ask his sponsor about classic cars over there...

     

  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    My son basically told me that he will probably not make the promotion lol! He said they hurried up and did his package for him and it looked like crap and he is never on base anymore and no one he knows made it first time around lol. I asked if he can study for it and he said, probably not much, he will only come back for the day to take it. Oh well, it seems to me like he just sewed on E4 anyway but if they don't make it does that mean they have to wait a year to take it again? It is amazing what all goes into what they have to present for advancement. Good luck to your son Craig!  Thanksgiving will be here before you know it!  I am already mourning the end of summer!