My son is A PACT on his first deployment. Started out with a contract for AIRR (Rescue Swimmer) and didn't make it the first time. The only thing that was available for all of those that lost their AIRR contract (60%) was A PACT or S PACT. He was very disappointed as his dream was to be a rescue swimmer. He has heard both good and bad about A PACT. He has been on his ship for about a week. So far so good. He is working 12 hours a day on the deck of the ship with the refueling team. He seems pretty happy. He heard that S PACT is harder work than A PACT. His plan is to work hard and hopefully strike for a rate in a year. Right now he thinks he wants to either go for aviation electronics or try AIRR again. He has heard that if you work hard, get qualified in as much as you can, have a good attitude and never be late, you will get noticed and will be able to strike for a rate sooner rather than later.
More great tips to pass on to my son. Thanks IBL's Mom for sharing that. Good luck to your son. I hope he does well and is happy in whatever field he lands in.
My son joined and went to MEPS. He returned with the undesignated Seaman A PACT contract. His recruiter told him to sign whatever he was offered at MEPS and then when he returned, if he wasn't happy, they could file a DAR. Almost everything that I have read regarding entering with out a rate is not the best way to enter and it seems like a way to fill a quota. He had a meeting with the Chief and his recruiter and they tried to make it sound like he waited too long to file a DAR. We went out of town for a week right after he went to MEPS, so he spoke with them as soon as we returned.He leaves August 28th. My son got an 80 on the military aptitude test and he is entering as an E3 with a two-year college degree. He's not afraid of hard work. I can't help feeling he's been set up to get demoralized from the very beginning.
Krist
A 80 is pretty good look I will tell you this my husband joined last March 2016 he scored a 96 on the Asvab and he went Undesignated because his recruiter told him it was his best path to Nuke as at that time there were no Nuke jobs. Being undesignated is how YOU as a sailor handles it. You can pick any rate you want and feel out for 10-15 jobs in your area. Your not stuck in something you don't like. My husband busted his ass off for one year once he got to his shit last june2016 and I mean busted his ass off. He was doing duties a 2nd and 3rd class should be doing and the reason he did it is because he knew what he was doing he did all his quals tested out on them and now just yesterday the navy picked him up as MM. I told my husband to bust his ass off show them what you got my husband is also a lot OCD. Lol. He had some shit hours shit jobs but he did it never bitched they gave him EP which is early promote he also went in with two college degrees and a E3. He is the only person in his shop qualified to operate the fork lift his chief can't even he is one of two people on his whole ship who is only qualified to operate anchors and steering because he busted his but off he also is only missing 2 quals in engineering and he will have every single one u see his belt the next sailor does not even have half the quals he has. He has to have the mid set of a goal and a drive they will notice him as they did my husband. 2nd class 3rd class and chiefs go to my husband to get stuff done and get educated on stuff because they don't know. I know they because at cool out and events they tell me what a great hard working smart man I have. Everyone makes negative comments be he see how miserable some sailors are because they don't like there rate after they are on the ship and they are stuck with it. My husband got to do many jobs and choose his rate by order of preference and got his first choice, in less then a week which is unheard of. I am proud of him because he can now advance to E4 in the fall. Don't let it discourage him let it make him strong and give him drive.
Thank you do much for this. My son is in the mindset that he will work his rear off and do well. I can only pray. As you mentioned, so many people only post negative stories about undes.
Kristi, Michael couldn't have said it better. It is totally what you make it and you do get to seebwhays out there. My son just re- enlisted for another 5. He has worked his but off as well but he has done really well and he has enjoyed his first 5 years. The undesignated route is a great way to go. Most any sailor that went in undes will tell just that. Heads up Momma !! Its gonna be fine !!!
Our son is S-PACT too. Although the work is hard and can be boring, he loves it! Has shadows different jobs (on his own time) to see what will interest him. He also loves the travel! He is young, strong, follows directions, but also a leader and team player. I have great confidence in him and what the Navy has to offer him.
My son signed his enlistment contract for S-PACT and I nearly had a heart attack when I went online and read what some people were posting about it. He was happy with the choice because he has no clue what he wants to do - just knows he wants to do... something, so being out on his own and having his own dream completely different than our other kids is great for him. Some of your posts are making me feel SOOOO much better! I would rather him have gone A-PACT, but again, not my life.
Your son will be fine. Just work his ass off my husband went in as a FN-PACT and picked up a rate 1 year to the day and his first choice, but he busted his ass off I know because I barely saw him. If your lazy you won't get picked up if your a go getter you will get picked up. Just do your best and ask ask ask if you don't know. Good luck.
My son will be graduating 11/3 and chose Air-pac and I am not quite sure what that means. His A school is in Pensacola. If anyone can shed a little info that would be great
Hi MzLynn, A-PACT means he is an undesignated airman. He will do a brief training at Pensacola and then be assigned to a duty station. He should know pretty soon (or may already know) where that duty station will be.
PACT sailors are assigned a variety of jobs; after about a year or so, they may have the opportunity to strike for a particular job. For example, an A-PACT might want AD or AM; if those jobs are open, he/she may be able to try for that job. Sometimes they are offered jobs they want, sometimes they have to choose between jobs they are less interested in -- depends on "needs of the Navy".
Hi all.
My son went to Meps last week, as of right now is scheduled for boot camp July 8th? I think. Anyway, he didn't do great on the asvab, all that was offered to him was pact seaman. If he goes to boot camp with the low asvab score will that limit his options of picking a job? The other option would be for him to unenlist and retake the test. Any thoughts? This is unfamiliar territory for me.
Hi Dianna, My son also is a pact seamen. S-Pact. Graduated May, 2017. Deployed in June. The work is hard and at times boring, but he is looking forward to striking fairly soon. He has been testing for qualification in all different areas. They learn a lot quickly. He loves it! If your son has a particular job he would LOVE to do, then maybe he should take the test again, if undecided then I see nothing wrong with Pact Seamen. It depends really where the Navy needs him.
Yay! Activity in the Group! My Sailor is going through a couple of weeks of basic seamanship school, then home for a week and then off to the fleet. Can't wait to see him and I am trying not to ruin it for myself by worrying about when he might be back home again next.
My son is S Pact and graduated 10-20-17. I will reserve a final opinion regarding the program after I see what his experience is at his port in San Diego. However, I agree that if a person isn’t sure what they want to do I think it’s not a bad way to go, also, the ASVAB score really didn’t have anything to do with his placement.My sons was pretty high.
Nothing wrong going into PACT my husband did it and made MM in a year. He got to try so much stuff and pick what he really wanted to do. He told me so many sailors hate what they are doing. He glad he went this way
My son got ribbing from other recruits when he told them he is undes. From what it appears to be is that the first year no matter your rate you do ship functiiin and maintenance so it’s nit so glamorous for anyone. It will be remain to be seen if my son gets to strike a rate he wants, but it is god he is not stuck in a rate from the very beginning that he really isn’t interested in. He said once he went through boot camp he was exposed to what the Navy has to offer and there are jobs that never occurred to he ,
My son had absolutely NO CLUE what he wanted to do as far as rates, it was so much information (and so many acronyms), that it was kind of overwhelming for him to sift through it and try to choose. He has a few rates in mind that he would like to observe and shadow now, so that is a plus. It stinks they can't strike for a year, but hopefully that gives him time to earn a reputation as a smart, hard worker who would be a boost to whatever team he strikes for. He is more of a hands-on learner than a classroom learner, so maybe this was the best way to go for him...
I was wondering that too - my son didn't think so, he thought it was more of an OJT, then do some testing to qualify, but then again he never thinks to ask for more information
From what I understand, they may or may not attend A school. It depends on what they strike verses the experience they’ve had. My son has the approach that he will take advantage of as much training as he can. I think it’s important to remember, though, that the needs of the Navy come first, and our sons could try to strike a rate and it not be available. I consider that the a downside. The ones who go in with a rate that they know they wanted are for the most part assured that that won’t change. I am so glad you guys reached out. I felt very overwhelmed and anxious when my son told me he got undes as a rate. The old timers will tell you it is the worst. I think fir a period of time it may be, but it is not permanent.
If you go in with a negative feelings it will be bad. My husband struck his rate that he wanted the first time. But he knows all quals in his shop and they come to him for help. Only cause he’s a nook nerd. Lol
Yes, I agree about the positive attitude. I wish the Navy used their resources to educate the public and change the perception. One guy told my son he thought that undes “was only for retardation”. My son has two abs a half years of successful college experience and made an 80 on the ASVAB, which isn’t great, but considering it’s scored on the 100% scale, he “got” a B. The guys in Basic who tried to throw shade are also detrimental to a recruits motivation. But, as I think we have all agreed upon here, the experience can be to a certain degree what a person decides to make it and from what I can tell, our sailors have entered the designated with a positive outlook.
Undesignated sailors are called "non-rates". None of them attended an "A" school. The option of attending "A" is still available to them thru career counselling office, but they must be accepted and increase their years of commitment. It isn't easy to get accepted in an "A" school once you've been in the Navy.
Non-rates are assigned to work in ratings that are undermanned. Most non-rates take the path of least resistance and become designated in that rating because these ratings are "open" ratings. Generally their daily work is a form of OJT but they will be sent "cranking" which is only one of the TAD assignments they will receive.
To supervise non-rated "cranking" sailors, Petty Officers who did not attend an "A" school will be sent by their Department to supervise them. In other words, Petty Officers who did not attend "A" school are the first chosen to be sent TAD.
I had to petition the Rating Review Board to be transferred to the Department that had the rating I wanted to be in and to be eligible to take that rating's Petty Officer e*am. Guess which key has stopped working on my keyboard. Time for a new keyboard.
Since the rating I wanted to be in was a "controlled rating" rather than an "open rating", my fate was dependent upon proving I could pass the test and would be an asset to the rating. Which means I had to score higher on the Petty Officer rating course, the Petty Officer leadership e*am, and the preliminary courses I had to pass before I was eligible to take the rating course.
Essentially, I worked my regular 12 hour a day seven days a week shift, then studied 5 hours a night for 3 days a week and OJT'd in the rating I wanted to be in 2 nights a week.
The other days a week were duty days so I performed 4 hour watches on those days.
That's why most non-rates take the path of least resistance.
I scored higher on the rating e*am than 90 percent of the "A" school graduates.
It didn't matter. I was TAD for two full years after entering the rating.
While I am proud of my achievement, essentially I was assigned to perform the duties of 9 of the top 10 ratings with highest e*posure rate to asbestos apparently "for the good of the Navy."
Dear NavyBrat: your story sounds more realistic and is similar to others I have heard. Congratulations on perseverance. I am sure many just figure they can get a rate and get paid the same no matter what they do....I had a serious talk about understanding what he was getting into and to learn how to advocate for himself with my son before he left. Are some ports easier to strike a rate than others?
Your son will be fine in the pact program my husband went in as fireman pact and he picked up his rate in 9 months and now he’s a MM. tell him to work hard do the job the right way and don’t slack off. My husband got ahead just because of that. Just do his job and he will be fine. He will have a to crank for 4 months it sucks but he gets it out of the way. Any questions ask
My son is in the pact program as well. He really never complains. He doesn't like the 4 months of crank in the galley but only has a few more weeks of it and is overall pretty happy. He really was not sure what job he wanted to do and now has a pretty good idea of what he wants to try to strike for. He does his job as well as he can and moves on to the next job. I think its a great learning experience. Wishing your son the very best.
Thanks for the info. I'm sure I will be asking more questions. My oldest son just got out of the navy, so I am familiar with some of what goes on. He was a nuke mm, so he didn't go in undesignated. My youngest is going in now.
My son went in Undes and I fought it all summer. My research indicated it would not be a very good experience. He was adamant that it was his choice. He felt he did not know what he younger recruits who were kind of cocky and hands-on labor and wait it out until he could get an idea of how the jobs on the ship operate. He did get snarky comments here and there before he went to BC and while I’m BC, usually from
Younger guys who were kind of cocky. When senior officers got wind of the disrespect, they cut it off pretty quickly. After BC, he trained at GL for about 4 weeks and then he went to his first choice, he is stationed in San Diego. I would suggest, your SR may want to consider the climate and time of year he or she will be working as an Undes, since it is mostly an outdoor job. My son is loving bring in San zdurho rught now. He has been told the sun will be brutal in the summer, though. Regarding the job, lots of cleaning and moving heavy objects. My son said the other day, he had been surprised to learn how far making sure you are tidy and just do your job efficiently abs respectfully gets a person. He gives and reserves respect. He gets paid the same amount as any other person in his rank, he is E3 because he had a couple of years of college. However, whether you are Undes or Nuke or anything technical, you make the sane amount of money...From my son’s perspective, he’d rather be taking his time in a temporary job, seeing where he may want to be, than being stuck in a job he thought sounded cool but he found out wasn’t so great after he’s already in. That being said, he also knows that in about a year, when he can strike a rate, he serves the needs of the Navy and he will need to choose from the rates that are available at the time. I guess I just want you to know Undes is not as bad as it sounds. It’s tennporary and it’s an opportunity to learn how all of the jobs on a ship operate.
There is nothing wrong with undes all this negative bs is what it is. My husband went in undes as F pact so he can go Nuke route because he was not a citizen at the time of entry of military he struck a rate in a year which is typical if you are a worker if your a slacker it will take longer as there are 3 people in his ship that have been undes for 3 years and if they don’t strike something this year they will be kicked out but they are also slackers. Just think he or she can go in and try many jobs and not get stuck in a job you hate for 4 years or longer. My husband tried almost 22 jobs and picked what he like and he’s happy and Chiefs look up to him as he knows his stuff and does things the right way bybthe book they know it gets done right the first time.
! Your husband sounds like fight him and call them their “protege”. I think he’ll be fine. He also said he’s been told to just get training in anything he can, just make himself more marketable and flexible around the ship . He said the ones that are Undes with bad attitudes are the ones that get out there because they have not been successful
I’m the schools that the chose. Those guys are kind of bitter. ’”
Kristi yes he is he has done so much school he is one of only two people on his ship that can do anchors and steering and the only on in his ship that can use the forklift. He was nominated for bluejacket of the quarter did not get it because he thinks he’s to new on the ship but it does not stop
Him. Now that he’s been frocked to E4 all the newbies that come on he makes sure they do stuff the right way not like some guys taught him short cuts because short cuts can make things go wrong. So he is happy now he can make sure guys under him in his shop will donthings right the first time the right way and not the wrong way.
Yes, my son said early on he suggested to some guys that they go back and redo something thatcwasntvquitevfinusged after quitting time and they all made fun of him. He knows that there are some guys that are just there to do their time and collect a paycheck, just like the civilian world. They won’t advance or rate and they are the ones that complain. I can’t bekieve your husband knows several guys that have been on a ship for three years that haven’t rated.
Undes is not horriable. A lot of people told my husband no why did you but he had no choice as my husband aced the ASVAB they wanted him to go Nuke but this route will take him that way which he is doing now to take us to Nuke school we will see what happens unless his mind changes again. Lol
Son#2, yes he will get some mechanical training. Our son is undes too. He is past the true grunt work and wearing many different hats. Helicopter crew, fire crew, boatswain (of course), coxswain. He should be able to strike very soon (I hope). He has never complained and has made many very good friends.
Michael
Jul 15, 2017
raising3247
Michael - It seems like the hardest jobs are the most rewarding.
Jul 15, 2017
IBL's MOM
My son is A PACT on his first deployment. Started out with a contract for AIRR (Rescue Swimmer) and didn't make it the first time. The only thing that was available for all of those that lost their AIRR contract (60%) was A PACT or S PACT. He was very disappointed as his dream was to be a rescue swimmer. He has heard both good and bad about A PACT. He has been on his ship for about a week. So far so good. He is working 12 hours a day on the deck of the ship with the refueling team. He seems pretty happy. He heard that S PACT is harder work than A PACT. His plan is to work hard and hopefully strike for a rate in a year. Right now he thinks he wants to either go for aviation electronics or try AIRR again. He has heard that if you work hard, get qualified in as much as you can, have a good attitude and never be late, you will get noticed and will be able to strike for a rate sooner rather than later.
Jul 15, 2017
PatriotMom2
Jul 16, 2017
misisu
Jul 20, 2017
Kristi
My son joined and went to MEPS. He returned with the undesignated Seaman A PACT contract. His recruiter told him to sign whatever he was offered at MEPS and then when he returned, if he wasn't happy, they could file a DAR. Almost everything that I have read regarding entering with out a rate is not the best way to enter and it seems like a way to fill a quota. He had a meeting with the Chief and his recruiter and they tried to make it sound like he waited too long to file a DAR. We went out of town for a week right after he went to MEPS, so he spoke with them as soon as we returned.He leaves August 28th. My son got an 80 on the military aptitude test and he is entering as an E3 with a two-year college degree. He's not afraid of hard work. I can't help feeling he's been set up to get demoralized from the very beginning.
Jul 21, 2017
Michael
A 80 is pretty good look I will tell you this my husband joined last March 2016 he scored a 96 on the Asvab and he went Undesignated because his recruiter told him it was his best path to Nuke as at that time there were no Nuke jobs. Being undesignated is how YOU as a sailor handles it. You can pick any rate you want and feel out for 10-15 jobs in your area. Your not stuck in something you don't like. My husband busted his ass off for one year once he got to his shit last june2016 and I mean busted his ass off. He was doing duties a 2nd and 3rd class should be doing and the reason he did it is because he knew what he was doing he did all his quals tested out on them and now just yesterday the navy picked him up as MM. I told my husband to bust his ass off show them what you got my husband is also a lot OCD. Lol. He had some shit hours shit jobs but he did it never bitched they gave him EP which is early promote he also went in with two college degrees and a E3. He is the only person in his shop qualified to operate the fork lift his chief can't even he is one of two people on his whole ship who is only qualified to operate anchors and steering because he busted his but off he also is only missing 2 quals in engineering and he will have every single one u see his belt the next sailor does not even have half the quals he has. He has to have the mid set of a goal and a drive they will notice him as they did my husband. 2nd class 3rd class and chiefs go to my husband to get stuff done and get educated on stuff because they don't know. I know they because at cool out and events they tell me what a great hard working smart man I have. Everyone makes negative comments be he see how miserable some sailors are because they don't like there rate after they are on the ship and they are stuck with it. My husband got to do many jobs and choose his rate by order of preference and got his first choice, in less then a week which is unheard of. I am proud of him because he can now advance to E4 in the fall. Don't let it discourage him let it make him strong and give him drive.
Jul 21, 2017
Kristi
Aug 6, 2017
mary
Aug 6, 2017
cjtizzy55
Our son is S-PACT too. Although the work is hard and can be boring, he loves it! Has shadows different jobs (on his own time) to see what will interest him. He also loves the travel! He is young, strong, follows directions, but also a leader and team player. I have great confidence in him and what the Navy has to offer him.
Aug 10, 2017
Mattsmomma
My son signed his enlistment contract for S-PACT and I nearly had a heart attack when I went online and read what some people were posting about it. He was happy with the choice because he has no clue what he wants to do - just knows he wants to do... something, so being out on his own and having his own dream completely different than our other kids is great for him. Some of your posts are making me feel SOOOO much better! I would rather him have gone A-PACT, but again, not my life.
Aug 30, 2017
Michael
Aug 30, 2017
canger
Are there any members on here whose sons/dtrs graduating on Oct 20th? My son is in division 337.
Oct 1, 2017
Mattsmomma
Mine graduated 10/6
Oct 11, 2017
MzLynn
Oct 23, 2017
Valtameri
Hi MzLynn, A-PACT means he is an undesignated airman. He will do a brief training at Pensacola and then be assigned to a duty station. He should know pretty soon (or may already know) where that duty station will be.
PACT sailors are assigned a variety of jobs; after about a year or so, they may have the opportunity to strike for a particular job. For example, an A-PACT might want AD or AM; if those jobs are open, he/she may be able to try for that job. Sometimes they are offered jobs they want, sometimes they have to choose between jobs they are less interested in -- depends on "needs of the Navy".
Oct 23, 2017
Dianna
My son went to Meps last week, as of right now is scheduled for boot camp July 8th? I think. Anyway, he didn't do great on the asvab, all that was offered to him was pact seaman. If he goes to boot camp with the low asvab score will that limit his options of picking a job? The other option would be for him to unenlist and retake the test. Any thoughts? This is unfamiliar territory for me.
Oct 26, 2017
cjtizzy55
Hi Dianna, My son also is a pact seamen. S-Pact. Graduated May, 2017. Deployed in June. The work is hard and at times boring, but he is looking forward to striking fairly soon. He has been testing for qualification in all different areas. They learn a lot quickly. He loves it! If your son has a particular job he would LOVE to do, then maybe he should take the test again, if undecided then I see nothing wrong with Pact Seamen. It depends really where the Navy needs him.
Oct 26, 2017
Mattsmomma
Yay! Activity in the Group! My Sailor is going through a couple of weeks of basic seamanship school, then home for a week and then off to the fleet. Can't wait to see him and I am trying not to ruin it for myself by worrying about when he might be back home again next.
Oct 26, 2017
Kristi
Oct 26, 2017
Michael
Oct 26, 2017
Kristi
Oct 26, 2017
Kristi
Oct 26, 2017
Kristi
Oct 26, 2017
Mattsmomma
My son had absolutely NO CLUE what he wanted to do as far as rates, it was so much information (and so many acronyms), that it was kind of overwhelming for him to sift through it and try to choose. He has a few rates in mind that he would like to observe and shadow now, so that is a plus. It stinks they can't strike for a year, but hopefully that gives him time to earn a reputation as a smart, hard worker who would be a boost to whatever team he strikes for. He is more of a hands-on learner than a classroom learner, so maybe this was the best way to go for him...
Oct 27, 2017
tntmomma
I apologize if this is a silly question. Once they find they rate they want and strike into it, do they still attend A school for that rate?
Oct 27, 2017
Mattsmomma
I was wondering that too - my son didn't think so, he thought it was more of an OJT, then do some testing to qualify, but then again he never thinks to ask for more information
Oct 27, 2017
Kristi
Oct 27, 2017
Michael
Oct 27, 2017
Kristi
Oct 27, 2017
NavyBrat
Undesignated sailors are called "non-rates". None of them attended an "A" school. The option of attending "A" is still available to them thru career counselling office, but they must be accepted and increase their years of commitment. It isn't easy to get accepted in an "A" school once you've been in the Navy.
Non-rates are assigned to work in ratings that are undermanned. Most non-rates take the path of least resistance and become designated in that rating because these ratings are "open" ratings. Generally their daily work is a form of OJT but they will be sent "cranking" which is only one of the TAD assignments they will receive.
To supervise non-rated "cranking" sailors, Petty Officers who did not attend an "A" school will be sent by their Department to supervise them. In other words, Petty Officers who did not attend "A" school are the first chosen to be sent TAD.
Oct 29, 2017
NavyBrat
I had to petition the Rating Review Board to be transferred to the Department that had the rating I wanted to be in and to be eligible to take that rating's Petty Officer e*am. Guess which key has stopped working on my keyboard. Time for a new keyboard.
Since the rating I wanted to be in was a "controlled rating" rather than an "open rating", my fate was dependent upon proving I could pass the test and would be an asset to the rating. Which means I had to score higher on the Petty Officer rating course, the Petty Officer leadership e*am, and the preliminary courses I had to pass before I was eligible to take the rating course.
Essentially, I worked my regular 12 hour a day seven days a week shift, then studied 5 hours a night for 3 days a week and OJT'd in the rating I wanted to be in 2 nights a week.
The other days a week were duty days so I performed 4 hour watches on those days.
That's why most non-rates take the path of least resistance.
I scored higher on the rating e*am than 90 percent of the "A" school graduates.
It didn't matter. I was TAD for two full years after entering the rating.
While I am proud of my achievement, essentially I was assigned to perform the duties of 9 of the top 10 ratings with highest e*posure rate to asbestos apparently "for the good of the Navy."
Moms, I will never lie to you.
Oct 29, 2017
NavyBrat
4 hour watches on my duty days after my regular 12 hour shift.
I was on call for firefighting duties 24 hours a day as fire team member on duty days and as back up on my regular days.
Oct 29, 2017
Kristi
Oct 29, 2017
Son#2
hello! anyone recent in this group
Dec 26, 2017
Son#2
hello! my son is going in the pact program. anyone have any info
Dec 26, 2017
Michael
Dec 26, 2017
Espadab
My son is in the pact program as well. He really never complains. He doesn't like the 4 months of crank in the galley but only has a few more weeks of it and is overall pretty happy. He really was not sure what job he wanted to do and now has a pretty good idea of what he wants to try to strike for. He does his job as well as he can and moves on to the next job. I think its a great learning experience. Wishing your son the very best.
Dec 26, 2017
Son#2
Hello!
Thanks for the info. I'm sure I will be asking more questions. My oldest son just got out of the navy, so I am familiar with some of what goes on. He was a nuke mm, so he didn't go in undesignated. My youngest is going in now.
Dec 26, 2017
Kristi
Dec 27, 2017
Kristi
Dec 27, 2017
Kristi
Dec 27, 2017
Michael
Dec 27, 2017
Kristi
I’m the schools that the chose. Those guys are kind of bitter. ’”
Dec 27, 2017
Michael
Him. Now that he’s been frocked to E4 all the newbies that come on he makes sure they do stuff the right way not like some guys taught him short cuts because short cuts can make things go wrong. So he is happy now he can make sure guys under him in his shop will donthings right the first time the right way and not the wrong way.
Dec 27, 2017
Son#2
Hello!
The only thing I am wondering is, he wants some type of mechanical rate. Will any of his jobs be mechanical?
Dec 28, 2017
Michael
Dec 28, 2017
Kristi
Dec 28, 2017
Michael
Dec 28, 2017
cjtizzy55
Son#2, yes he will get some mechanical training. Our son is undes too. He is past the true grunt work and wearing many different hats. Helicopter crew, fire crew, boatswain (of course), coxswain. He should be able to strike very soon (I hope). He has never complained and has made many very good friends.
Jan 2, 2018