Mary....Thanks for sharing that great pic of your handsome son! What a good find!
Mary, Connie,Jacqueline...I'm chuckling about the "Fire Control" thing! You are right, most people automatically relate it to fire fighting. I think they should come up with a different title..maybe something like "Weapons Control"... but I don't think they'll want to hear what I have to say!!! LOL.
Angie- inland seas, unsalted & no sharks! Just moved my daughter to McGuire AFB in NJ & we stopped in Atlantic City on the way to the airport for me to fly home; "mom it smells funny"..."that's how the ocean smells"..."but it stinks"...she grew up on the shore of Lake Michigan & is kind of a water snob.
lori...so funny...and so true. Really...it's good for us to laugh at ourselves/with each other along the way. I don't think we'll ever stop learning new stuff about Navy protocol, procedures, lingo, etc., so we might as well have fun with it! As they say..."we're all in the same boat"!!!
It has been my experience that life will offer me many opportunities to make a complete idiot of myself. When this happens I have two choices: try to keep it a secret and hope no one finds out or tell the story myself and get credit for the laugh. The first option never worked out for me. And if I start the laugh then others have no choice but to laugh with me rather than at me. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
jacqueline...feel free to tell me your stories anytime...I'll always laugh "with" ya...not at you! Us humans do tend to take ourselves way too seriously!
LOL, Angie, I had a little bit of an idea, being a Navy brat. So disappointed to find there were no more cool Navy pens to bring home, and that "comshaw" had gone the way of the dixie cup (I was in when they were out in the 70s, and then back in). I did work for a chief in Orlando who kept a bottle of whiskey in his desk drawer, and a boatswain's mate who couldn't read. Not these days, huh?
If Navy fitness officials have their way, top performers on the physical readiness test may soon rate a fitness ribbon.
The Navy Physical Readiness Program Office has proposed that sailors who score “outstanding” five times on the PRT be awarded a fitness ribbon as a way of encouraging sailors to excel. What do you think of this idea? Is this a good way to motivate sailors to do better? Should sailors need a ribbon to do well on the PRT?
Overall, do you believe there are other activities or abilities that should rate ribbons for top performance? Already, the Navy has ribbons for good conduct, exceptional volunteer work and recruiting. Should there be an award specifically for life-saving? Or for being an outstanding mentor?
And there are separate awards for rifle and pistol marksmanship. What about warfare awards that are more Navy-specific, such as firing torpedoes, anchoring ships or fixing airplanes?
On the flip side, do you believe there are already too many awards? If so, which ones would you get rid of?
We’d like to hear what you think. Contact staff writer Sam Fellman with your ideas. Be specific: Your comments may be used in an upcoming story.
Address your email to: sfellman@atpco.com and use subject line: Question from NavyTimes.com reader
Hey ladies, I watched this video for the first time on a news program this morning. I thought you all would enjoy watching and listening to it. Probably more than once. Hope you can open up. http://youtu.be/xlN98VoEFa0
Once in three years???!!! COMPLETE BS. An ET will probably go to a ship, that ship will deployment for 6 yo 8 months ... about once a year with the current operational tempo. Shorter underways and exercises all the time. Some ships go out less, some go into dry dock.
Sorry, got cut off before I finished.... right now, the military is involved in conflicts all over the world. This includes the Navy. Sailors go to sea, when things are "hot", they go more often. Just about every Naval vessel has ETs, it is a sea going rate. Plan on not seeing them for about half the year.
What does a sailor do when not deployed? They work on their ship. As I said, ships go to sea for a variety of reasons, so while they might not be out for 8 to 9 months (length of a current deployment), they could go to sea for a few days, a few weeks, even a few months.
One day they are sitting in A school and feeling like they will be there forever and then off they go ...
DA NANG, Vietnam – The U.S. Navy began naval exchange activities with the Vietnam People’s Navy on July 15 in Da Nang in conjunction with the 16th anniversary of establishment of diplomatic relations with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
Your post makes me want to sign up for the Navy! Elephant riding? How cool is that! They can put in some mighty long days while deployed and go along time before hitting a port but it's nice when they finally get to do and see some pretty cool parts of the country.
Very cool photo Debbie - I would do that field trip!
BRB - thanks for the link, we are collecting photos and articles for Nick's scrapbook but he is NOT good about sending photos either! Fortunately his ship's facebook page is very sharing!
Three reasons: 1. he is busy and hasn't bothered to reply. 2. He got into trouble and they took away his privileges, which would include his cell phone and/or laptop. He would not be allowed to make phone calls. No way to tell because the command won't tell you for privacy reasons Public Relations might be able to check for you, but perhaps not.. 3. He lost his cell phone and is too embarrassed to tell you.
Mary, His the ship's FB page is quiet? I would post something like: "Hello..Hello. Anybody out there?" I hope you here something soon. I am sure they are probably very busy since they just got there not to long ago.
Connie, such mixed feeling about them growing up! It is not like we want to keep them home forever but all grown up and living on e other side of the world...my parents told me it was my paybacks for getting married and moving to Japan!
Sandy - I am so getting ready to post one of THOSE type comments! I can see Nick rolling his eyes now..yep that's my mom!
I have been doing this long enough to know they are busy but geez a quick call or email would be sweet!
FCs are not often in the photos because of their jobs...very limited access to their work centers so the photographers have to catch them in the galley or having fun, not usually in their work environment.
And I missed a phone call today from Vietnam! He did leave a vm which I have about worn out!
Me too. In his voicemail, he said he would try in a few days and we know his ship is underway again. I have been very fortunate with his deployments and he is generally very good about calling while the ship is underway so fingers crossed that call will be soon.
Hope everyone is having a fabulous Friday. Having lunch on Saturday with the lovely Navy families in Georgia so if any of you are from or in the Atlanta area and want to join us, please let me know.
Hi Moms!!! Just checking in. It has been awhile and alot going on. Tomorrow is my Navy 4 Moms day I guess. Tomorrow marks the 1 year anniversary of Chris's PIR. So our Mom PIR group (The Sisterhood of the Oreo Sash Queens....long story)are having an online party all weekend long. It will be great to catch up and see how all our surrogate sailor children are doing. Plus Our Ga. Navy Moms are having our luncheon tomorrow (Can't wait to see you Mary)This is a special group that I have really become close to. Special ladies!!! Chris seems to be doing well at C school. Made a 100 on the first test. I haven't heard from him in 2 weeks. All of his friends from GL have now arrived at Dam Neck so instead of cold, ice and snow they now go to the beach alot. No time to call home.:(. On top of this my baby (who really is not a baby anymore) has just about finished all the requirements (waiting on security clearance) then it is off to MEPS. The last one at of the house. On top of that husband has a new job....Huntsville Alabama at Redsone. So now the house is on the market and we are moving. During any of this did I mention I hate change.
Vickymed. I am so happy that your son has settled in to (C)school at Dam Neck and is doing great.
All of my son's classmates will be there to together. Including a boot camp buddy. They are all reporting with in a couple of days of each-other in September. He is looking forward to his new life in Dam Neck.
Happy One year Navy Anniversary to your son. What a journey!!
I'm going to tell you everything I know about my son's future military career (it wont take long) and I'm hoping someone will be kind enough to fill in the gaps for me. My son is in DEPS. His contract is for ACEF. He starts bootcamp in November. After spending Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years in the tender loving arms of the RDCs (I'm coping... mostly) he goes across the way to A school. After several weeks of joint schooling (about nine?) it is decided whether he will go on to be an ET or an FC. Then he goes on with more schooling. So far so good? Then what happens? Where does it happen? How long does it happen? My son is enjoying his last summer of relative freedom. He is living in the moment and not particularly interested in thinking very far into the future. I can respect that. So I was hoping one of you guys could help me get my information fix.
Wow!! Jacqueline !!!!! Ok, you sort of have all the details correct. I need to add some stuff.
When your son is in his last weeks of boot camp, that is when he will get his Official Orders. It is then that he finds out if he is FC or ET. The Official Orders don't come from Recruit Training Command. They come from Great Lakes Navy Base. (TSC) These are two separate Commands. I know this is confusing because it is on the same base.
Ok, so after your son's PIR, He will be moved over to The Other Side,>> The (A)school side of base. He will be in INDOC for the first week. This is where they teach him the rules of living at GL and going to school. After INDOC week, he will more than likely be on-hold. (a waiting time) My son was on-hold before starting classes for 8 weeks. After that he will start ATT.= Apprentice Technical Training. Depending on whether he is an FC or ET the length of this course will vary. I think it is 3 months. ATT is a stressful class for some because it is all computer based. Most Sailors are glad to be done with it. LoL. Anyway, after finishing ATT he will then start his (A)school. This lasts 6 months from what I remember. After completing his (A)school he will be on hold again before getting his new Orders from his next command. These orders will be to (C)school
My son graduated from FC (A)school May 6th. He has been on hold since then. He just got his Orders 2 weeks ago. He will be going to Dam Neck, VA for his (C)school in September. His orders are for 177 days. Because his orders are for more than 6 months, he has not been assigned more orders. He will get his orders to his ship, or new base as soon as he has finished (C)school.
I know there is a lot of information and it is confusing. I am going to stop for now so that your head does not spin. LoL
Sammy...A Big Welcome! You're gonna love this group! Our sailor is still at GL in A school for ET. ET's and FC's school is looong, but they've got a great rate! Glad you joined us...
Jacqueline...yup, Sandy pretty much covered it! Don't hesitate to ask anything...vent, complain, cry, rejoice, laugh, tell us how proud you are....whatever!
Thank you all for the info. It's a little worrisome, though. My soon to be 19 year old son is a great kid. He is smart, funny, wise, kind, fiercely loyal, generous of spirit and bright. Can you spot what's missing? Focus! Self discipline! His school career mainly consisted of doing as little as possible then doing really well on the test to squeak by in the class. There was always something more interesting to do than homework. I'm not sure he realizes how much school he's in for. He knows that focus is not his strong suit. He's hoping the Navy will help him with that. I'm hoping that when his dad and I are not at his elbow yelling "do your homework!", "study!" he will find his own start button. In the meantime I'm worried. My husband is ready to cash in his college fund and downsize the house. (He's our only child.) But what if he doesn't make it? I have complete confidence that my son can accomplish anything he sets his mind to. I'm not so sure he'll set his mind to it on the Navy's schedule. Anyone have words of advice, warning, encouragement? I kinow, I know! I have to let go and let him succeed or fail on his own. How 'bout words of advice on how to go about doing that?! I've seen people do it without strait-jackets or heavy medication, but I wasn't watching closely enough to see how it's done. (LOL!) Help!!!
Jacqueline...I know it's hard to let go and hard not to worry. You won't get any argument about that from anyone here! And yes, you son's study habits do sound familiar! The one thing all our sailors have in common that are either ETs or FCs are that they ARE intelligent. If they weren't they wouldn't have qualified for these rates.
I think you will be surprised at how well he will do..even if not right at the start. There is just something about the Navy that quickly turns our babies into responsible men. And this is really the first time that most of them will be really doing something for themselves...not for us..or their highschool teachers, but for themselves. So they seem to get the hang of and the taste of succeeding for themselves and develop a sense of pride of what they can accomplish. Before school, they have already accomplished so much in bootcamp, not only physically, but a change mentally and in attitude. I think they all eventually "get it" that how they do in school is going to determine the quality of the rest of their career and time in the Navy. You are going to be amazed at how well your son will do...and not because you didn't think he could do it, but because he will do it away from home and on his own!
So I don't know if that is any encouragement or help in letting go without the straight jacket or meds! But I do have a good marguarita recipe if you need it!
Having been an ET, I can assure you the training is well structured. You learn step one. Then step two. Then you review. And on and on. They start with atoms and move forward, building on each piece of knowledge. You do not move onto the next module (what we used to call the units) until you have mastered the one you're on. The sailors want to succeed, so work harder than they ever did in high school. (I was a high school drop out) ((dropped out to go to college instead, my high school was terrible)).
I voluntarily went to mandatory study in one section of ET school. They can choose to do this at any time! They can form study groups, and tutor each other. Most of it is not all that bad for the kids, they're the smart ones after all.
Angie, thanks for that information on RTC and TSC. Just when I thought I finally understood everything you go mention more Acronyms, LoL. I had no idea that TSC housed so many commands.
Anti M. I was reading posts on another group in NFMs. I think it is the Navy Girlfriends, Wives exetra. You used a 6 step problem solving thing to help these girlfriends weigh the pros and cons of when to get married. I was really impressed.
AntiM, ProudGMBarb, KarlaW, Helen (proud mama to Matt), and Angie. You guys are great! You have no idea how much you have set my mind at ease. I have officially jumped off the worry train. (I will almost certainly take a few more short trips but I'll try to stick to the commuter train and quit riding the cross-country!) I will trust that the Navy has seen more than one smart kid who has been sliding by on "his great potential" and knows how to get the best out of them. It is also not impossible that I am letting legitimate concerns for my son get tangled up in my empty-nest, baby boy is going away and joining the Navy baggage. I had no idea this process would be so difficult for me. How come my son is the only one who gets a uniform? I feel like I've joined the Navy too! Thanks for your support guys.
ProudGMBarb
Mary, Connie,Jacqueline...I'm chuckling about the "Fire Control" thing! You are right, most people automatically relate it to fire fighting. I think they should come up with a different title..maybe something like "Weapons Control"... but I don't think they'll want to hear what I have to say!!! LOL.
Jul 11, 2011
Deb (FC Mom)
Jul 11, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 11, 2011
jacqueline-rn
Jul 11, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 11, 2011
Anti M
Try being an ET... we get the "phone home" jokes even now as retirees.
"FireControlasinFireaWeapon" should be all one word.
Jul 11, 2011
sammy
Jul 11, 2011
Anti M
Jul 13, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Jul 13, 2011
Anti M
Jul 13, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Tell us what you think: PRT ribbons
Staff report
Posted : Tuesday Jul 12, 2011 12:27:39 EDT
If Navy fitness officials have their way, top performers on the physical readiness test may soon rate a fitness ribbon.
The Navy Physical Readiness Program Office has proposed that sailors who score “outstanding” five times on the PRT be awarded a fitness ribbon as a way of encouraging sailors to excel. What do you think of this idea? Is this a good way to motivate sailors to do better? Should sailors need a ribbon to do well on the PRT?
Overall, do you believe there are other activities or abilities that should rate ribbons for top performance? Already, the Navy has ribbons for good conduct, exceptional volunteer work and recruiting. Should there be an award specifically for life-saving? Or for being an outstanding mentor?
And there are separate awards for rifle and pistol marksmanship. What about warfare awards that are more Navy-specific, such as firing torpedoes, anchoring ships or fixing airplanes?
On the flip side, do you believe there are already too many awards? If so, which ones would you get rid of?
We’d like to hear what you think. Contact staff writer Sam Fellman with your ideas. Be specific: Your comments may be used in an upcoming story.
Address your email to: sfellman@atpco.com and use subject line: Question from NavyTimes.com reader
Jul 13, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Jul 13, 2011
Anti M
Jul 14, 2011
R'sproudmom
Jul 14, 2011
Anti M
Jul 14, 2011
Anti M
Sorry, got cut off before I finished.... right now, the military is involved in conflicts all over the world. This includes the Navy. Sailors go to sea, when things are "hot", they go more often. Just about every Naval vessel has ETs, it is a sea going rate. Plan on not seeing them for about half the year.
What does a sailor do when not deployed? They work on their ship. As I said, ships go to sea for a variety of reasons, so while they might not be out for 8 to 9 months (length of a current deployment), they could go to sea for a few days, a few weeks, even a few months.
Jul 14, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 14, 2011
TXNavyMom
R'sproudmom..wow! Thanks for sharing the video..
Jul 14, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
One day they are sitting in A school and feeling like they will be there forever and then off they go ...
DA NANG, Vietnam – The U.S. Navy began naval exchange activities with the Vietnam People’s Navy on July 15 in Da Nang in conjunction with the 16th anniversary of establishment of diplomatic relations with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
Yep, sailor son is in Vietnam!
Jul 15, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Debbie,
Your post makes me want to sign up for the Navy! Elephant riding? How cool is that! They can put in some mighty long days while deployed and go along time before hitting a port but it's nice when they finally get to do and see some pretty cool parts of the country.
Jul 15, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Surprise Patriotic American 4th of July weekend flash mob marching band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lbNXNn3CI&feature=player_embedded
Jul 15, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 16, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Very cool photo Debbie - I would do that field trip!
BRB - thanks for the link, we are collecting photos and articles for Nick's scrapbook but he is NOT good about sending photos either! Fortunately his ship's facebook page is very sharing!
Happy Saturday to all!
Jul 16, 2011
Anti M
Jul 17, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Jul 17, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Jul 19, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
hope everyone is well - welcome to our new members!
Jul 19, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
I hope you here something soon. I am sure they are probably very busy since they just got there not to long ago.
Jul 19, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Sandy - I am so getting ready to post one of THOSE type comments! I can see Nick rolling his eyes now..yep that's my mom!
I have been doing this long enough to know they are busy but geez a quick call or email would be sweet!
Jul 19, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Jul 19, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Hope everyone is well today
Jul 20, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
And I missed a phone call today from Vietnam! He did leave a vm which I have about worn out!
Jul 20, 2011
Vickyrun
Jul 21, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Jul 21, 2011
Mary, Proud Mom of Nick
Hope everyone is having a fabulous Friday. Having lunch on Saturday with the lovely Navy families in Georgia so if any of you are from or in the Atlanta area and want to join us, please let me know.
Jul 22, 2011
Vickimed(AECF-ET)
Jul 22, 2011
sammy
Jul 22, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Welcome Sammy!! My son is an FC and he has finished (A)school and is on- hold at Great Lakes until September.
Has your hubby started (A)school yet?
Jul 22, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Vickymed. I am so happy that your son has settled in to (C)school at Dam Neck and is doing great.
All of my son's classmates will be there to together. Including a boot camp buddy. They are all reporting with in a couple of days of each-other in September. He is looking forward to his new life in Dam Neck.
Happy One year Navy Anniversary to your son. What a journey!!
Jul 22, 2011
jacqueline-rn
Jul 22, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Wow!! Jacqueline !!!!! Ok, you sort of have all the details correct. I need to add some stuff.
When your son is in his last weeks of boot camp, that is when he will get his Official Orders. It is then that he finds out if he is FC or ET. The Official Orders don't come from Recruit Training Command. They come from Great Lakes Navy Base. (TSC) These are two separate Commands. I know this is confusing because it is on the same base.
Ok, so after your son's PIR, He will be moved over to The Other Side,>> The (A)school side of base. He will be in INDOC for the first week. This is where they teach him the rules of living at GL and going to school. After INDOC week, he will more than likely be on-hold. (a waiting time) My son was on-hold before starting classes for 8 weeks. After that he will start ATT.= Apprentice Technical Training. Depending on whether he is an FC or ET the length of this course will vary. I think it is 3 months. ATT is a stressful class for some because it is all computer based. Most Sailors are glad to be done with it. LoL. Anyway, after finishing ATT he will then start his (A)school. This lasts 6 months from what I remember. After completing his (A)school he will be on hold again before getting his new Orders from his next command. These orders will be to (C)school
My son graduated from FC (A)school May 6th. He has been on hold since then. He just got his Orders 2 weeks ago. He will be going to Dam Neck, VA for his (C)school in September. His orders are for 177 days. Because his orders are for more than 6 months, he has not been assigned more orders. He will get his orders to his ship, or new base as soon as he has finished (C)school.
I know there is a lot of information and it is confusing. I am going to stop for now so that your head does not spin. LoL
Jul 22, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 22, 2011
ProudGMBarb
Jul 22, 2011
jacqueline-rn
Jul 22, 2011
Vickyrun
Jul 22, 2011
ProudGMBarb
I think you will be surprised at how well he will do..even if not right at the start. There is just something about the Navy that quickly turns our babies into responsible men. And this is really the first time that most of them will be really doing something for themselves...not for us..or their highschool teachers, but for themselves. So they seem to get the hang of and the taste of succeeding for themselves and develop a sense of pride of what they can accomplish. Before school, they have already accomplished so much in bootcamp, not only physically, but a change mentally and in attitude. I think they all eventually "get it" that how they do in school is going to determine the quality of the rest of their career and time in the Navy. You are going to be amazed at how well your son will do...and not because you didn't think he could do it, but because he will do it away from home and on his own!
So I don't know if that is any encouragement or help in letting go without the straight jacket or meds! But I do have a good marguarita recipe if you need it!
Jul 22, 2011
Anti M
Having been an ET, I can assure you the training is well structured. You learn step one. Then step two. Then you review. And on and on. They start with atoms and move forward, building on each piece of knowledge. You do not move onto the next module (what we used to call the units) until you have mastered the one you're on. The sailors want to succeed, so work harder than they ever did in high school. (I was a high school drop out) ((dropped out to go to college instead, my high school was terrible)).
I voluntarily went to mandatory study in one section of ET school. They can choose to do this at any time! They can form study groups, and tutor each other. Most of it is not all that bad for the kids, they're the smart ones after all.
Jul 22, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Angie, thanks for that information on RTC and TSC. Just when I thought I finally understood everything you go mention more Acronyms, LoL. I had no idea that TSC housed so many commands.
Jul 22, 2011
Sandy's_sailor son
Anti M. I was reading posts on another group in NFMs. I think it is the Navy Girlfriends, Wives exetra. You used a 6 step problem solving thing to help these girlfriends weigh the pros and cons of when to get married. I was really impressed.
What is that Six step method??
Jul 22, 2011
jacqueline-rn
Jul 23, 2011