Great Lakes A School Q&A

The purpose of this group is to allow family of new sailors assigned to school at Training Support Center Great Lakes a chance to voice questions to a Student Division Commander

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  • ProudMom93

    Navymom, my son's rate is also QM, PIR 1-10-14. He texted me yesterday that he had gotten his classes so I thought that meant no hold. Am I wrong?
  • MomOf4

    Thank you Angie for the info.  She can use her Navy issued bag and take a little each time back onto base since we will be there 3 days.  I can mail her the rest if any.

  • Lisa4495

    My son's rate is MR. He had PIR on 1/10/14. He is on hold and says he just has been told he will be waiting. Said there isn't even room for them in the fleet at this time. What exactly does that all mean. Is he going to get to know Chicago well before this is over with???
  • RAINE13

    Good evening everyone, I have been reading a lot about sailors being on hold to start school, an Im just wondering if my husband is on hold to go to school an it pushes him to be gone longer then 6 months would the navy move me an my boys to Illinois then? Because with bootcamp an a school its 6months but if he is waiting for school an the wait is about 2 months then a school alone would be 6months.
  • Navy Wife (Div 321)

    Unfortunately no they will not move you they do not count holds for how long it takes so there for you won't qualify for thwm to move u it sucks bc with holds he could be there for a while sorry
  • Janai'sMom

    Hi Lisa4495.  Holds and delays at A School are very common.  Most likely, they have to wait for other sailors to finish up at BC and fill the class.  He can work on phasing up while he is on hold, and they do have things for them to do while they are waiting.  Yes, he probably will get to know Chicago well (my daughter did) but this isn't a bad thing.  I think it helped her get used to military life.  Don't worry too much about him saying "no room in the fleet at this time", we heard that too.  They will find room.  I was worried as well when I heard this stuff, and had the same concerns.  Sometimes that military calendar just doesn't move as fast as ours!

  • Lisa4495

    Janai'sMom thank you so much. I just worry about it all. If hold time continues to draw out could he get a leave during that time?
  • Janai'sMom

    Hi Lisa4495.  They have limited liberty while they are at school, and there is a mileage cap.  As he phases up, which he can do pretty quickly, he gets more freedom.  Have him look into this, they have no problem telling them what his limits are.  Do you live close enough to visit him?   We all know first hand about worrying and questions.  That's why we're here!  I'm happy to help any way I can, please don't hesitate to ask.

  • gglove

    I would like to give my daughter a pair of earrings for pir can she have small post earrings  in a school? thanks

  • Janai'sMom

    Hi gglove.  Yes, she can now wear small ball earrings.  She can have silver, which she can wear pretty regularly, or small pearls that she can wear with her dress uniforrms.  The earrings have to be post, and just the ball only, nothing else, And no gold, as those are reserved for officers. You can google Navy uniform jewelry, they tell you the millimeter maximum. Congratulations on your new sailor!

  • gglove

    thank you for your knowledge have a great day!

  • gglove

    so she cant wear anything with a small stone

  • Janai'sMom

    Hi gglove.  From what I understand, no.  Just the small ball.  They're still free to wear whatever they want when they're in civilian clothes, but just the silver or pearl balls while in uniform.

  • Forever proud

    Morning everyone! Can anyone tell me where the Wi-fi hotspots art on base my son is using all his data at an alarming rate in his room. Until he is set up otherwise I'm going to encourage him to go there instead
  • Forever proud

    Oh, and another question: can they receive packages through UPS or FedEx? Or only through USPS?
  • Lisa4495

    My son has gotten wifi in his room. Comcast is one provider. I'm not sure about actual hotspots on base. I'm sure they are there tho. Yes they can receive packages ups and fed ex. We sent xbox via ups. He had to have the tracking number., but there were no problems
  • Forever proud

    Fantastic Lisa4495. That makes me feel a lot better about trying to ship his electronics to him. Not sure how UPS will do with a television, but I have more confidence in me than USPS to handle something that potentially fragile!
  • MomOf4

    My daughter just graduated this past Friday. She has been told (I don't know by whom) that she will be on hold at least 3 months before starting A School, is this information correct? That sounds totally absurd to me considering that they are shipping new recruits in every week.

  • Tys' mom

    Sounds about right. It could be sooner than 3 months or even longer than 3 months. My son graduated 12/13 and was told could be 3-6 months to class up. It depends on their rate. My son is a MM and there are only 18 of them their. Not sure how many are needed to class up. My son is anxious to start but in the mean time he says its not bad he gets paid to clean. Lol!!
  • GrannyFranny51

    My grandson is on hold for class also.  He is enjoying his days, they are organized enough to keep them busy but with enough personal time also.  Life is usually a "hurry up and wait" situation so it is just one more preparation for them! lol  Maybe they are just learning to be patient, that lesson never hurts.  He was waiting on the time he could get into the Navy and this is better than just sitting around or trying to hold down a temp job. They are sailors whatever they are doing!! 

  • mariecb

    My son is also a MM.  His PIR date was 10/11 and he just classed up 2 weeks ago.  I think he is more patient about everything than I am which is what makes him a good sailor.  Once his class started my worries have now changed to where he will be stationed and deployment.  One step at a time I guess.

  • Pig03let(Bro is Navy Sailor)

    My Bro's PIR was 8/30/13 and he is just about to finish MM school on Thursday.  So yes the holds could be correct.  Especially since not matter the rating they all have to do the BECC class and that is what takes the longest for waiting.  Waiting for space to open.

  • Tys' mom

    My son did mention BECC. How long is Becc and A school for MM? Thanks for the info. :)
  • mariecb

    My sailor reports (not sure if accurate) that the BECC is 31 days of training and the MM is only 11 days.  He said there may be a short wait between.  1-2 weeks.

  • Amani_2013

    My husband classed up on Wednesday of last week, so I'm glad things are on the roll. Now I'm worried about where we will be stationed. He filled out his dream sheet and asked for 1. Bremerton, WA 2. San diego CA and 3. Norfolk, VA. For some reason I feel like the Navy will put us in VA. I'm not feeling it but maybe some of you can give me some insight? He doesn't want to stay on base and I'm trying to convince him that it would be best for our first term in the Navy but he said he has friends already there and married like us who advised him to go off base. So, I looked into apartments in norfolk and was not happy with what I saw. He said on base living probably won't be available.. anybody currently and recently moved there and got base housing ? Is it nice? If not any recommendations on nice updated apartments? Thanks so much :)
  • Navymom111413

    Amani2013, we moved from Norfolk, VA in July to California. We lived in military housing in Virginia Beach. Most of all the military housing is off base. The only housing on base is for Officers and single sailors in the barracks. As soon as he gets his hard copy orders get in contact with Lincoln Military Housing in Virginia. We lived there for 4 years.
  • Amani_2013

    @Navymom111413 oh ok, was the housing nice ? And yes thank you I will !
  • Navymom111413

    Amani2013, it depends on what neighborhood you get. We lived in Port Lyautey neighborhood. It was the newest housing built back in 2009. We loved it. It was 1800 sqf 2 story with a covered front porch, 2 car detached garage and a medium size back yard.
  • Amani_2013

    @navymom111413 How long did it take you to get the housing? And is the base crowded, I guess what im asking is, do you think they'll give us on base housing? And how are the people, me and my husband are young and I heard the navy wives stick together while their husbands are on deployments and stuff is all this true??
  • Amani_2013

    Also, does it matter what type of housing we get based on his rate which is E2...
  • mariecb

    Anti M posted this for me regarding what is BECC?

    Here is the BECC description from the TSC FB site:

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/training-support-center-tsc-great-la...

  • Navymom111413

    Amani2013, when we moved there in 2009 we had our house before we moved. Like I said all the housing is off base except for the barracks and officer's housing. There were some really nice wives there. But you are right a lot of them stick together. The best advice I can give you is to get involved with the commands FRG.
  • Pig03let(Bro is Navy Sailor)

    I think the BECC was about 9-11 weeks then MM is only 12 days.

  • MomOf4

    Thank you for the info everyone.  This is all new to me.  I am used to boot camp now A school is an entirely new animal!  Um, actually, the Navy is a brand new experience and nothing like anything I have experienced before.  I appreciate your information!

  • kiley91

    My husband is an MM and just got to A school this past weekend. His orders say he will graduate A school around April. Which I'm assuming isn't including any holding time. He's still doing indoc this week. So if MM school is 14 weeks and he's on hold for 2-3 months possibly I know the navy won't pay to move me and our son there, but could we do it on our own?
  • Lisa4495

    Okay I am very confused now. My sons rating is MR. He had PIR 1/10/14. His is in GL and is on hold as well. What is the BECC? I haven't heard of this before. I also have a question about internet while in Great Lakes. My son purchased the one available there but it is slow and his xbox won't connect because the system is inundated with users. Is there another option for internet. My son said they are not allowed to have anything installed in their rooms, but says some do anyway. I told him he probably didn't need to do something he was told not to.
  • MomOf4

    Lisa4495 - My daughter mentioned something about checking with her cell phone provider and mobile wiifi.  She said several had mobile wiifi in her A school.  She also is paying $20/mo for her wiifi and it is really slow.  We can Skype but it lags behind and hangs up a lot.

  • CHC

    I think it depends on the ship and the length of time they will be at GL. My sailor and his room mates were allowed to get internet installed in their room however they will be there quite a while. Longer than the 6 months most providers around here require a contract for.

  • MomOf4

    I'm wondering if anyone here can tell me the very BEST way to ship a box to my sailor in A School?

  • Lisa4495

    I used UPS to ship a big box. Worked well. Thanks CHC and Momof4 for the info on internet. Can someone tell me what BECC is?
  • Lisa4495

    Never mind about BECC. I found it via the link posted here. Thank you mariecb
  • Janai'sMom

    Hi MomOf4.  I've sent my boxes through USPS, priority flat rate shipping box.  They have four sizes, and the boxes are free.  The largest is about $15 to ship up to 70 lbs.  I've sent packages from CA and it gets there in 2-3 days.

  • Abby

    Kiley: you can move any where you like, but he just won't be able to get the approval to live with you.
  • alice

    Yea! My son classed up yesterday, started AT&T school. 43 days, then I guess another wait until he leaves for SD for A School.
  • Anti M

    A word on shipping via UPS or FEDEX ...the package goes to the same mailroom as USPS ones, and your sailor has to go get it. This varies ba bit, but they don't deliver directly to the rooms.  If it is big, there may be lugging in winter involved, lol.

  • MomOf4

    Thanks everyone for the shipping information.  This is all so new to me and the military really does not work like the civilian world! So, I would need to let her know that I am sending something and when so that she will be expecting it? I assume they don't notify her that she has a package.

    Another question, I sent her a small pkg with her hair straightner, make up etc. for PIR and she has never received it.  Should she look at the post office on the A school side now in case it was sent over there after she graduated?

  • Anti M

    Let her know when a package is coming, but they do give them a notice.  As for the PIR package...she should ask her mail PO at A school if he can see if it was forwarded, but don't hold your breath.  It may be in limbo.  Possibly forever.  

  • MomOf4

    Wonderful.  If they are going to let the females have a small pkg sent to them while in bootcamp for PIR why don't they take better care to make sure they get them?  OMG, it makes me so mad that I spent all that money and now its just floating around somewhere in limbo. Ugh!

    I am very leary of sending anything to her now, even if she is on the other side of the street.

  • Pig03let(Bro is Navy Sailor)

    Momof4 - we mailed early Jan. my bro (PIR was 8/30/13) something (a congratulations card actually) and it took 3 weeks to get to him.  So know stuff gets there for A school but takes a while.

  • MomOf4

    I guess it would not be a good idea to send her favorite cookies she has requested, they will be hockey pucks before she gets them!  I guess there is a 3 month hold on mail just like her classes. Can you tell I'm frustrated? lol