Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

Hi All, I'm reading your posts, and some of you have already joined our facebook page..that's awesome!  Please know, that my daughter, now home and unscathed, will be starting a fb group for all of our separated SR's.  She intends to heal- train and go back in!  Hooyah.. I couldn't be prouder.

Chiefswife.  I don't get why they can't keep everything they paid for!!!!!  That stuff was expensive.

Hal's Mom, she will be able to call you 24 hours before she leaves and then an hour or so before she leaves.

Is there family here for a SR Desmond? My daughter met him while in seps, and a wonderful friendship is beginning...thought to introduce myself.

I need help.. my daughter wants to re enlist.. YEA! but- I can't seem to get a handle on what her code exactly means. so.. she got a jfc  re-3e, everything I have read says its for prerequisite education- ie high school.  but she was told by legal and her recruiters have said it's a medical sep code.. ugh!  How am I supposed to hand in the right information, without the right explanation of the code.  Her recruiters said for them to touch her, she needs a code change.. any suggestions?

Liz'smom:  Maybe this link will help?

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blcode-2-3.htm

Here's the other part of that link:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/l/blcode5.htm

JFC   - Enlisted/reenlisted/extended/inducted in error/ Erroneous Enlistment  or Induction

                                    

RE-3E- Failure         to meet education prerequisites. Fully qualified for enlistment provided     education criteria is met. Erroneous induction.

Liz'smom -I believe that the RE-3E code listed below is incorrect. (Sorry Abby!)

Liz'smom -  (PART 2) Researching your daughters "history" on here ...I see that she went to FIT , then RCU  and then eventually Ship 5. I believe it was the run that was a challenge, then stress fractures. But then your first post on Ship 5 mentions "PTSD" for the possible discharge reason.

You need to go to her DD214 and find out what the explanation is for her discharge. BOX 18 - REMARKS (Don't post them) , 23 - "Type" and 28 "narrative" hopefully can give some detail to the "erroneous".

Box 24 - Should have ELS (Entry Level Separation as it was less than 180 days of service). Box 25 - is the Separation Authority. Box 26  - SEP code (JFC). Box 27 - Reentry code (RE-3E). 

This is ONLY my personal research, not any definite answer...I am not Navy personnel. 

As far as the Recruiters "not working with her"...I have no clue. It may have to do with the specifics of her separation.  RE-3E for the Navy is "Ineligible to Reenlist Without a NAVCRUITCOM Waiver". So I don't know why they want a code change...again the nature of her discharge.

Hope that helps some.

(This is copied over from the BLOG post that you have...I also posted an additional comment over there :-))

I know its hard for my daughter that is on Ship 05. She sounds better everytime I talk to her. Does anyone know how long they keep them in there? I was told 10 days.

Sandra,,, it could be a couple of  weeks by the time all paper work is complete.. My daughter just came home last week... I will gladly answer any questions,, I had also post my cell in case anyone has questions they do not want to publicize 724 989 1239.  I know what you are going thorough and I will try to help as best as I can.  I can even ask my daughter questions and get answers straight from first hand experience. 

Good morning to all,,, any news on your recruits..  I am praying for them!

How do I address a letter to my son who is in SEPS?  The address example above show right under SR NAME - SHIP XXX & DIV XXX, is that the ship and div he was in during the whole bootcamp ordeal?  

Are they allowed packages?

FYI.. the link show in this address section does not work:-)

I do not believe they can get anything in SEP.  Once in SEP it should not be to long before they get news on coming home.  Usually not more than 21 days unless there are special circumstances like medical needs that make someone unfit for travel on military standard.  They do get more phone calls and internet use in there.  I am here for you all,  if I can help I will.  I pray for you all and your recruits.

Please tell your sons/daughters it is not the length they stayed,, it is the fact they gave the USA a blank check of their life to cash on our behalf no matter the outcome..  Thank them from the bottom of my heart for their service and loyalty to our beautiful country!

AMEN, LoriM!  I so agree!  We are proud of all of them for their enlistment!

Hello Everyone, Its been a while since I been on. I have great new, My daughter is coming home next week! Thank you all for the support that you gave me.  Prayer works and encouraging your Recruits is very important. The more sane you are, It really gives your recruit the strength. Cause no matter what they are faced with challenges in there. Things that we dont have a clue they are facing.

Broxy,,,those who get a bus ride home are RE4-fraud,,could med info left out and whatever,, recruits that don't have ID or those who live close.  So there are a few reasons.

Broxy,, was wondering if you heard anything on when your recruit will come home?  Been praying for all.

just add SEPS Male or Female after ship 5 so it goes to right compartment when sorted

They usually call twice a week but that is not for sure either.  They still maintain military order and can lose phone time for various reasons.  They may occassionally pop up on facebook or an email, so always check for them there too

NavyMomYve, do your best to hang in there and encourage her to focus on plan B now.  The normal time in Seps is averaging about 38 days once they arrive on Ship 5, so it is not a quick discharge process.  I am so sorry

There is also a facebook SEPS/Ship 5 group if your on facebook?  You should check it out too....https://www.facebook.com/groups/535221726514465/

Many are in SEPS now going on 3 1/2 weeks and have yet to see legal, 1 was just over 1 month and just saw legal for the first time, no date yet on when he will be home yet either, usually you see legal twice or have to wait for the departure lists to come out and see if your name is on it

OMG Just reading all of this sound so much like what my daughter is going thru. On Aug. 22 she was send to medical because her left knee was swollen and was feeling tingling in her left arm and numbness. She had to wait til the 28th for a follow up  if she didn't want to be discharged which she didn't. She was given pain killers for the pain and was put in LLD. She called us for the 1st time on Sept. 2, saying she is much better a little sore but she was gonna stick it thru. Now on 9-5 we received a call that she is on Ship 5 because of the Tendonitis on her knee and also depression and anxiety. Really? She was so disappointed in herself about being sent home. But I did all that I could and told her she did all she could and that what matters. Now its the long wait to when will she be sent home. 

NavyMomYve,,, my daughter went through the same SEPS and it took several weeks,, however mine is reenlisting too,,, the nice thing is all the time spent on that base counts towards your time if you reenlist.. so my daughter has basically 98 days of seniority for faster pay raise the next go round.  So it is not all bad... It does take time to get all recruits through separation for several reasons,,, physical issues,,1) they can not travel til the Navy feels they are fit for travel because it is on them if recruit is still injured 2) they have time there being counseled on what their discharge is and has so many days to appeal right then and there (kind of like a mortgage you don't get money asap because of right to rescind) 3) Paper work is sent back and forth Washington to make sure all i's are dotted and t's are crossed..and amongst all of that they are debriefing them to come back to civilian life...like watching movies, ordering food from off base,, I realize people who have never been in the military do not realize that even after a few weeks recruits learn a different way of life.  Hang in there,,, your recruit will make the right choices for them.  She may be encouraged if you tell her the time will count for her if she reenlist... I know we as parents worry when things don't go as our kids planned and worry about their well being,,, trust in the Lord.  The kids, no.. adults, even if they are our kids,, will make it through and come out stronger than you could ever imagine!!!  Keep us posted,, we will be praying for her!

I pray everyday that she does get to re enlist. She called yesterday that she had briefing on Monday. I talk to her and encourage her to make sure she read between the lines, don;t be afraid to ask question and let them know you want to come back. She says its about 17 days before legal. Awww the anxiety is killing me

Please read my comment, I think it is 8 down on this list.  After posting that I spoke to my daughter and she said if she would not have had the several weeks in separation she would not have been ready to come to civilian life... recruits don't know it then but she was so thankful for that adjustment time.  The Navy does know what they need.  They are giving the best care to our children.  Anxiety is high on the radar,,yes boot camp is very stressful and that is why there is a boot camp,,, if someone has issues there,, military may not be for them due to many reasons, including the safety of the other military people during conflicts every sailor and soldier needs to know his fellow sailor/soldier is strong and they can turn their back and be sure they are safe with the other person doing their job and not having an issue at a dangerous time.  I realize in civilian life people may never experience anxiety but stress does make it is show it's ugly head.  Most people don't even know they could have it.  I hope nobody takes this an insult as it is to help all understand why anxiety is an issue.  Anxiety does not have to be an attack,, it can be simple words of feelings,, please trust these people they do not want anyone getting hurt or killed if they miss someone that has the tendencies to have full blown anxiety under stress.  If someone has never been to boot camp they don't realize they prepare you for worst case scenarios,,, I know some say well this person won't be on the front line,,,their job may not be there but they could at anytime be reassigned, even on front lines,  to help wherever bodies are needed, that is why boot camp exist.  The schooling afterwards is really for your job.  I pray for all your recruits to do great things in life and if it is military encourage them to try again,, they will have to time to regroup and have a heads up of what they are heading into the next go round.  God Bless!!

I am sorry,,, for those who don't know, I was in the Navy too,, so I speak from experience.  I don't want you all to think I am just running at the mouth. 

Hi NavyMonYve... have you heard anymore?  Praying for you all!  Most recruits separated come home in their PT gear for those wondering.  I don't want to be mean to anyone on here ,, they are going through a hard time but I have to say the Navy does not over fill jobs,,, anyone who passes everything has their job waiting.  My daughter has been waiting weeks now to find out for sure if she has to wait the full 6 months or if because of her discharge code that she could go back sooner..  I am not happy it is  taking so long but there is so much red tape to get correct information.  Take care and praying for all recruits!!!

alohacoffee,,, contact your congressman/congresswoman to ask them for help.  They sometimes can write letters and contact who needs contacted.  Give them a try.  If this is what he wants don't stop looking.  Where are you located at??

We have been hearing that about waivers not being accepted (this from some Navy personnel) right now...however, I did see a post recently from a mom whose SR had his waiver accepted in the past year and went back to Bootcamp.  So....keep trying!