Ship 5 Moms(Formerly Ship 17)

Shanny's Mom - They always say on here "no news is good news." They would have given her a call to let you know she was being sent to SEPS if that happened, but they might not have let her make a call to let you know she passed. Hopefully your next call will be good news.

SR Last Name, First initial. Middle Initial
   Ship 5
   Recruit Training Command
   3610 Illinois Street
   Great Lakes IL 60088-3118

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My son was moved on the 20th.  When he called me I did not react in the best way.  It is due to an issue that he has had before and can be aggravated by cold weather.  I have not heard from him since.  I do know that he said he had talked with the Chaplin.  He did cry with me on the phone.  They have him on modified duty and said he can re-enlist in a year.  Would it be acceptable for me to call and ask for him to call me?  I know he is probably upset with me but I want him to know that I am here for him and make sure he handles the legal issue correctly.  Advice would be appreciated.

Hiphiphooyah, I left info on SEPS on your My Page.

redshewmn, I left info on your My Page also. Yes, since your recruit is in SEPS, then you need to cancel plans for PIR since that will not happen--at least not as previously scheduled. Waivers and appeals are sometimes granted in SEPS, but it is a long and difficult process.

Thank you. I received word on Tuesday that my husband was able to get a waiver and it passed. He is unable to do the job his contract specified, but he was able to get a new contract for a different job. Keep the faith! I am praying for your SRs and your families. I know the Lord has plans for each of them, my husband's story is a testament to that! 

I think I am going to go crazy with waiting...  My son's PIR was this past Friday at which time he told me that he was moved to Ship 5 for a medical hold.  Apparently he needed an iron level of 40 and tested at only a 39.5.  after having been taken to the hospital for testing and medical clearance 4 weeks ago, he is still awaiting clearance from Pensacola so he can go to A School.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can maintain my sanity in all of this?  my son, thankfully, is ok or at least acts ok, with remaining in Great Lakes and simply hanging out with some of the other kids...  Why would it take more than a month to clear someone after a dr approves his iron level???

Birgitta, your now Sailor is now in the THU, which is very different from what most of those you will find here are familiar with since most here have a recruit who is in the process of being separated and sent home. There is no group for the THU since the reasons for being there are as varied as the Sailors who are there. I left some info on your My Page.

Just keep being supportive and know that he will head to "A" School when his levels are up no matter how long that takes. Even if the doctor has declared him FFD, he still must meet the required level for service, which may be related to his rating. He can volunteer to help with various things and that will help him to pass the time and he is able to have some Liberty and is able to call you when he is not on duty.

Thank you all and best of luck to your Sailors!

movielover, it can be any day of the week depending on when the then former recruit is processed out. You should receive notice of when it will be.

Oops! I am new to this and sent this as a message to all instead of posting here. Sorry.

My son arrived at boot camp on Tuesday June 6, 2017. He called me Monday night and told me he had been moved to Ship 5 for separation. He said that they took a 300+ question test and based on the results they say he has ADHD. What? This totally took me by surprise. He said they advised him that he could appeal it or go home, see a doctor and see if he really does, get a job and in 6 months and can go back through MEPS. I have spoken to his recruiter and he thought this was strange too. I found this group through the Navy Moms page and was glad to see that he is not the only one, and I am not the only mom taken back by this. He said it would be 2-4 weeks before he will know when he can come home. He said it's not a dishonorable discharge, they called it an Administrative Separation. Do not know the code at this time. Will ask if he does when he calls again. He said he still wants to be in the Navy but would rather come home and do what they said then to stay and appeal it, because there is a guy there that has been in the appeal process for a year.

JTNavyMom, Alpha (A) and Bravo (B) designate which compartment on Ship 5 your recruit is in. You do not need to include that in the address. The address is:

SR LAST NAME, FIRST NAME

SHIP #5 SEPS MALE or FEMALE

3610 ILLINOIS STREET

GREAT LAKES, IL 60088-3118

I left additional info for you on your My Page.

My son has been at SEPS for one week now, his first weekend there. He describes it as one step above prison (he imagines) and because the majority of the  group is undisciplined the rest lose their privileges. No books, tv, phone calls, or recreation. What else are they supposed to do to  stay sane? I'm upset but praying for his strength through this trying time and for God to place his hand on my son.

My son's girlfriend just received the form letter informing us of his impending graduation PIR, for 11 Aug. This is torture and heartbreaking.

We just got the call on Monday, SoILMom. It hurts. So much. It also hurts - not knowing, nothing.

Thanks for the suggestions - I went on there and have been accepted to the groups, SoILMom. Very helpful!

My son was sep'd on 11/29/17 and came home 12/22/17 due to medical reasons.  He is STILL fighting pneumonia that he had for nearly 3 weeks at SEPS.  Norovirus ran rampant through the entire campus while he was there.  They took away the "buffet items" to reduce the chances of spreading it further, thus, taking away the healthier food options like the salad bar, fresh fruit, yogurt, etc. leaving nothing but gravy-laden, fattening food options.  Not exactly an environment to aid in sick SRs healing.

He is completely turned off by anything military now that he is back home.  He was never given a JAG advocate and told by Legal that he would never win an appeal so don't bother doing so.  This backhanded neglect in assisting SRs who voluntarily enlisted with a career in mind is haphazard and neglectful and tarnishes the U.S. Navy reputation for only recruiting the "best in class."  The RDCs in charge took away their tables, chairs, and bathroom stall doors because of a few childish SRs vandalizing antics.  

I hope after a couple of months of healing at home and remembering the vision he had for his life in the Navy will align my son with a fresh focus and possibly reenlistment.

These are the facts.  No negative backlash please.  Every case is unique, but one constant is that the Navy did not encourage Ship 5 SRs to use the resources availed to them.  And they held their mails and packages.  My son never received the packages we sent to SEPS and his letters that we wrote to him are coming back in the mail that were mailed over a month ago and also letters telling him his options to appeal and request a JAG advocate.  Only 2 phone calls while in SEPS as well.  

Hi Anne, 

My son was recently separated as well. This group doesn't seem be super active currently. I joined a Facebook group recommended by lemonelephant on my wall. It's really active.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/535221726514465? tsid=0.5434796636246855&source=typeahead

I'm really sorry for what you are going through. It's been tough. 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/535221726514465?tsid=0.54347966362468...

Anne, I put info for you on your My Page.

Hi ladies.  So sorry to hear about your SRs being in SEPS.  Mine has been in SEPS for 4 weeks and is expecting her departure date this week.  Just a word of caution about the SEPS group sponsored by the Navy...you are not allowed to speak freely in there.  Comments are often censored and more often than not, deleted if the admins don't agree.  There is an uncensored group here (link below) as well as a secret group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Ship5SEPSUncensored/

Yes, Mr. Pierce is the liaison between you and your SR.  He knows pretty much everything about where they stand in their process.  He is a very good resource.  Feel free to join us at 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Ship5SEPSUncensored/?ref=bookmarks

BBaggins, the separations process takes 10 to 20 business days. You mentioned a medical condition, so perhaps he must be declared Fit for Travel (FFT) before he can go home. I left info on your My Page.

I don't understand why they told my son he cannot go back in the navy after he gets better he got 5 stress fractures in boot camp but he can go in one of the other branches after he heals  his recruiter told him not to run for 2 1/2 months before he lefted for boot camp please let me know what you think about it thank you and is there a way around it like a medical clearance 

Victoria, he was given a reenlistment code that lets him know his options for reenlistment with the Navy or any other branch. He has to wait at least 6 months and be medically cleared before trying again.

As for the recruiter telling him not to run for 2 1/2 months before he left, that is NOT good advice at all and lack of conditioning prior to shipping is most likely what led to the stress fractures. Recruits need to be ready when they arrive at the RTC so that they will pass the PFA and so they will not be easily injured.

Can anyone give me the contact information for Mr. Pierce?

That's the spirit!

HE CALL AND HAS BEEN SENT TO SEPS

Can anyone tell me what I can send its his bday on April 25. Are they allowed to get packages? or anything

Nichole, you are welcome to join my FB group.  It is a support group and a place to vent for SEPS families.  I have found some of the information given in this group to be no longer accurate.  Such as the advice given a month ago saying they can't receive packages.  They ABSOLUTELY CAN receive packages!  Please just do a facebook search for Ship 5 SEPS uncensored. You may speak freely in that group and there are so many supportive families in there.