Girlfriends, Fiances,and Wives of Sailors

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  • Tiffany22

    hello I need advice. My Boyfriend and I have been talking about getting married soon while hes in A school but I dont think my parents would be so found of me marrying at 19 !

  • Anti M

    Tiffany, you are an adult, but yes, 19 can be young to marry.  Much depends on you and your sailor.  Why choose to marry now?  Is it simply to be together?  I know the financial benefits are enticing.  Are you working, or in college?  Have you run a household before?  There is nothing wrong with a longer engagement while you gather your personal resources.

    I had the chance to marry at 18.  Personally I am glad I did not, because I had a lot of personal growth to do then.   Yes, it does work for some couples, but usually they've been together for some time and are already pretty self-sufficient.

  • NavyGF

    Hi all. Is it normal for the higher ups (RDC maybe?) to forbid sailors to get married? My boyfriend is currently at A-school in Meridian as a  logistic specialist, his pay grade is E3. He mentioned that he is marine based, not sure if that matters here but yeah. He said that he could only get married after 2 years. Is that true, and even possible to have an order like that? 

  • abuon18

    SSS28, when they are in A school, they have to submit paperwork (called a "chit") to get married. It does have to go through their chain of command and be approved, and it can be denied. Sometimes they'll be required to go to classes also. USUALLY when their higher ups tell them they are not allowed to get married, it is because 1)they don't want to deal with paperwork 2)they have seen many young Sailors get married during A school and then those marriages fail, and that is messy 3) depending on the A school, some of the instructors DO try to discourage marriage during A and C school because they feel it can be distracting to their studies. They cannot be banned from marrying though, and generally they will not be denied if they submit a chit to marry unless for some reason he has a certain security clearance - for example, if you were not a US citizen, they may deny his chit to marry you while he's in A school or require a more in-depth interview with him - or his command has serious reasons to doubt the marriage. Even then, if his chit is denied, he can still get married, as it is a legal right in the US, and deal with the consequences afterwards (though I very very strongly do not recommend that). Most often, when someone like an instructor is discouraging marriage it's usually from their own bad experience or from years of watching others make bad choices. The easiest thing for them to do to not have to deal with it is to just tell the Sailors it's not allowed rather then try to encourage them to wait.

    Now, I do not know your boyfriend's unique situation, his A school, etc so there could be certain rules and restrictions for each A school that I'm not aware of. This is just a general overview of my experience. The best thing for your bf to do is to talk to someone else besides that instructor for information, someone else in his chain of command.
  • Anti M

    SSS28, abuon18 is correct, the Navy cannot forbid a legal marriage.  In A school, the student sailors are supposed to ask permission, but that is primarily to screen for fraudulent marriages for benefits and money, and to check for security risks.  Otherwise, there is nothing which says your sailor cannot marry for two years. His instructors cannot deny the request chit without a written explanation, and an agreement all the way up the chain of command.

    One of his instructors (not RDCs, those are boot camp only) probably has had a bad experience, or has seen too many A school marriages crash and burn.  It is common advice to "wait until after deployment".  But no, the Navy cannot forbid him from marrying.  Nothing wrong with waiting a bit, either.  Perhaps he isn't ready for the big step without knowing what his first duty station will be like.  That's sensible and completely normal.

    I only saw one marriage chit disapproved, and that was overseas and the bride was underage.  I know, because I was the one who disapproved it.  She couldn't get a parental signature, so it wouldn't have been a legal marriage.  I couldn't say yes to the chit!

  • NavyGF

    Thank you guys. I guess he's just not ready. I'm 23 with a full time job, but I'm not a US citizen yet. I visited him before he went into bootcamp (im from UK) so I think we're on the safe side with regards fiance visa. I just dont know, it's turning me crazy! Do you guys see the point of waiting 2 years given that we're in a long distance relationship? I'd understand if im in the US also, but I just really want us to be together. He says he got my point but it's forbidden so he's not considering the idea yet. Can you help me sort my mind guys, please? I'm sorry. Maybe I'm the one who don't understand. Sigh.
  • NavyGF

    Hi there! Oh, that's nice. How was the journey of your relationship during deployments?

    That's true, but I am alone here. My family are in Spain, since I'm not fluent in spanish, I went here in UK. And you know how things are when you're alone. I've got no friends too as I just moved last june 2016. To be honest, now that I think about it, i don't know why I'm rushing either. I feel so bad now, we had an argument about it last night and I was drunk. Ugh, the things I do is maddening. I must be desperate to get out of here and get him.
  • Michael

    Fiancé visa facts from immigration
    This page provides information for U.S. citizens wishing to bring a foreign national fiancé(e) living abroad to the United States to marry.

    If you plan to marry a foreign national outside the United States or your fiancé(e) is already residing legally in the United States, you do not need to file for a fiancé(e) visa. See the “Green Card” page.

    Application Process

    File Form I-129F, Petition for Alien Fiancé(e).
    Eligibility Requirements

    If you petition for a fiancé(e) visa, you must show that:

    You (the petitioner) are a U.S. citizen.
    You intend to marry within 90 days of your fiancé(e) entering the United States.
    You and your fiancé(e) are both free to marry and any previous marriages must have been legally terminated by divorce, death, or annulment.
    You met each other, in person, at least once within 2 years of filing your petition. There are two exceptions that require a waiver:
    1. If the requirement to meet would violate strict and long-established customs of your or your fiancé(e)’s foreign culture or social practice.
    2. If you prove that the requirement to meet would result in extreme hardship to you.
    After the Fiancé(e) Visa is Issued

    Once issued, the fiancé(e) visa (or K-1 nonimmigrant visa) allows your fiancé(e) to enter the United States for 90 days so that your marriage ceremony can take place. Once you marry, your spouse may apply for permanent residence and remain in the United States while USCIS processes the application. For additional information, see the “Green Card” section.

    Treatment of I-129F petitions where the Department of State (DOS) refuses to issue the K-1 visa and returns the expired petition to USCIS.

    Once USCIS receives a consular returned I-129F for K-1 classification from DOS and the petition has expired in accordance with 8 CFR214.2(k)(5), USCIS will allow the petition to remain expired and will not reaffirm or reopen the petition. Please note that this will not preclude the petitioner from filing another petition.

    Children of Fiancé(e)s

    If your fiancé(e) has a child (under 21 and unmarried), a K-2 nonimmigrant visa may be available to him or her. Be sure to include the names of your fiancé(e)’s children on your Form I-129F petition.

    Permission to Work

    After admission, your fiancé(e) may immediately apply for permission to work by filing a Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization with the USCIS Service Center having jurisdiction over your place of residence. Any work authorization based on a nonimmigrant fiancé (e) visa would be valid for only 90 days after entry. However, your fiancé (e) would also be eligible to apply for an extended work authorization at the same time as he or she files for permanent residence. In this case, your fiancé(e) would file Form I-765 together with Form I-485 as soon as you marry.

    What happens if we do not marry within 90 days?

    Fiancé(e) status automatically expires after 90 days. It cannot be extended. Your fiancé(e) should leave the United States at the end of the 90 days if you do not marry. If your fiancé(e) does not depart, he or she will be in violation of U.S. immigration law. This may result in removal (deportation) and/or could affect future eligibility for U.S. immigration benefits.

    We want to make plans for our wedding. How long will this process take?

    Each case is different, please check the current processing times for the I-129F petition, see the “Check Processing Times” page. We process fiancé(e) petitions in the order we receive them. Once we complete our processing, your approved petition is then forwarded to the National Visa Center (NVC). The NVC will then send the petition to the U.S. Embassy or consulate, which will need time to process your fiancé(e) for a visa.

    hope this helps
  • Michael

    They can't deny a marriage but they can kick you out of the navy and or not give her or him the spouse a ID card and rights to a base or base housing if they are a felon or have been charged with a felony and anything domestic violence related. My neighbors wife was escorted off the base ID taken away after they found out she was arrested and was in jail 15 years ago for armed robbery and someone did not spot it. The military personnel was told two things when your contract is up you will be honoredbly discharged or you can divorce her if you want to re-enlist. She's not allows on any base any base housing or to receive any military benefits
  • Tleiiigh

    Anyone used sandboxx before?
  • 427navy

    Carly, Once you get his address, WRITE HIM EVERYDAY!! It helped my fiancé so much. They go through so many stressful situations and need support through it all. Keep your head up and be strong for your boyfriend! Time will fly by & before you know it he'll be graduating bootcamp!
  • TimsGirl

    Hey guys, I'm new to this site. My boyfriend and I are now in the steps of doing paperwork for Meps. He should be going to MEPS by next month. This entire process has been exciting and also a bit confusing. I'm so grateful to have found this website. You guys have so much support & knowledge for one another. I'm happy to be a part of this website.
  • Anti M

    Welcome Timsgirl!  Be sure to join the boot camp group so you'll know about writing and phone calls when he is in basic.  If you have any questions, please ask.  Even a tiny detail may suddenly make things click for you if you're confused. The Navy doesn't always make sense.

    Be sure you know the rating he signs for, so you can join those groups too when he goes to A school.  

  • Tiffany22

    Hello has anyone ever traveled over seas to see deployed SO and if so how do you go about it ? 

  • autibug

    I traveled over seas last year to see my husband while deployed. From what I had to do it wasn't just something you go do. He had have permission from his command and I had to send any and all documentation of who I was and they did a mini back ground check on me. Also there were others deployed to the same place and there command didn't allow visitors during deployment. Where my husband he couldn't leave the base and I couldn't stay in his barracks obviously so we had to arrange for both of us to stay in a hotel on base. He was allowed to take some leave while I was there but we still had to stay on base the whole time and he did work some of the days. Not all places require you stay on base at all times but here they did. So a lot of it depends on where he is and if his command will allow visitors. Each base and even the different commands on that base may have different rules. I would say it is best to have your SO talk to his command and see if and what they allow.

     

  • Magirlfriend

    Hello does anyone have a boyfriend or spouse that had arrived at boot camp around July 24th, I haven't received a form letter yet, was just wondering if anyone knew a graduation date yet! Thanks in advance !
  • Anti M

    @Tiffany ... do you mean someone who is stationed overseas, or who is on a deployed ship which is visiting several ports?  Meeting them in port is chancy, as they can't release the ship's movements because of OPSEC.  Usually you can get official information through the FRG and the ombudsman, and coordinate that way.

    If you are going to visit a sailor who is stationed overseas, a lot will depend on the region, their command, and their rank.  

  • Anti M

    @Magirlfriend ... the boot camp mom group is much more active for the newly arrived SRs, so you may get a quicker answer there.  Open to everyone, not just moms!

    http://navyformoms.ning.com/group/bootcampmoms

  • nmr0712

    magirlfriend , Idk if anyone reached out to you but my husband arrived july 24. I got his letter of grad date earlier this week. But have not gotten a call nor hand written letter! 

  • JamieA

    Hi!!! any navy wives on DIV 333 or PIR 10-20-17?

  • Navywife

    Hello I have a question if I missed my fiancé call from bootcamp yesterday, do I have to wait till he calls again or can they get a call the next day ?
  • Anti M

    You will probably need to wait until the entire division gets to call.  There are rarely make up calls fr individuals.

  • Navywife

    @anti M thank you, I actually just got a call from him 40 minutes ago.
  • Anti M

    Excellent! Glad you heard from him.

  • Michael

    Typically he has to print out his orders unless he emails them to you. I do believe you don’t have security clearances to go into that part of the system. My husband emailed me them to print out
  • NavyWife2011

    He can give you the information to log in and print them off or he can email them to you for you to print them off.
  • Michael

    I do believe it’s a violation to go in the system that’s what we were told just have him email them. It’s his account his system not the spouses
  • NavyWife2011

    Oh ok! Guess it depends on who you talk to bc my husband chief said it was fine years ago. The same with DFAS.
  • NavyWife2011

    Can he contact his command by any chance beforehand?
  • NavyWife2011

    Oh, sorry! I didn't read all the way through. Email?
  • NavyWife2011

    If you have Facebook check and see if his ship has a Facebook page and messaged them.
  • NavyWife2011

    Ok awesome! Good luck on your newly journey!
  • NavyWife2011

    Ok awesome! Good luck on your new journey!
  • nicole.dm

    Hi everybody! I have a question that I hope maybe I can find the answer for here. Do all recruits get signed up for a Navy Fed account, even if they don't use it as direct deposit? I am keeping up with my fiance's email and she got an email from Navy Fed. We had agreed that she would use our joint account, so that I could pay rent and all of that. Question two, if she did do navy fed, will I get her debit card at home, or will she get it there? I'm just so worried about paying my bills for the next 6 weeks.

  • nicole.dm

    Thank you for the info. I know she took our info, but it did say she was signed up. It's all just so much lol I'm just waiting in a letter or call so j can be clued in to what's going on :)
  • abuon18

    Nicole.dm, they do encourage them to sign up for Navy Fed when they enter boot camp because as a credit union they offer a lot of benefits to members and their families. When my husband was in boot camp he joined Navy Fed but still had his paycheck deposited into his Wells Fargo account so I had access to pay his bills and such. We didn't switch over to using Navy Fed as our main bank until a year, or maybe longer, after he was out of boot camp. So yeah, she may have signed up but she could still have her pay deposited to your joint account. They don't make you deposit your pay into the Navy Fed account when you sign up.
  • nicole.dm

    Thank you so much! Thank you all for all of the information. This is a tough time and little things seem so big. You all have been so helpful :)
  • Gaia

    I'm a Italian Girl. I'm a soldier's fiancè. My boyfriend is in Texas, San Antonio for A school. We don't know how the C school works yet, does anyone know how long it takes for Pharmacy or Optics? would we want to marry, can someone give me some advice? Thank u

  • DieselLady

    Gaia, is your fiancé a soldier or a sailor? And he has medical insurance now, you will get it once you get married and he adds you as his spouse on his info with the navy. But don’t make that be the reason you get married. Get married when you both are ready to be. Vision through tricare (military medical insurance) only covers an exam, it won’t cover glasses or Contacts or a contact exam. Your pharmacy benefits will vary so you’ll just need to figure that out when the time comes. Hope this helps!
  • Anti M

    Your sailor will need to contact base legal and/or the state department to see how to marry a non-citizen, whether you will need a fiance visa, and how to get you a green card.  Getting married is the easy part, getting the paperwork done to make you a legal resident is complicated.

    HM C schools are not guaranteed, but he can ask.  Pharmacy tech school is 23 weeks.   i could not find the optician tech C school information, but it would be guaranteed to be quite long also.

  • Stephanie

    Hi! I don't know if any of you can help me, but I figured I'd give it a try! My boyfriend told me tonight that he didn't pass his block test for the second time in a school. So he's pushed behind. He doesn't know how long. He got his orders and will be going to San Diego, but that was before his failed tests. Since he will get done with a school later, will he still go to San Diego or will his orders change because he is graduating later?
  • Allison

    Stephanie, it is totally dependent on the needs of the Navy and availability of billets. Given that San Diego is a "hub" for the Navy, and you cannot (usually) be overseas your first permanent duty station, it is likely he will be at San Diego, Virginia Beach, or Norfolk, though there are a few other bases of course in the US. The only change would be if something opens up for a joint forces command or his C school is or he is reassigned to one that is 6+ months, qualifying it as a permanent duty station, that would open up the whole world for him pretty much. I hope that helps. If he has more questions, he should set up an appointment with his detailer, his detailer should be his best friend anyway, as this combined with communicating with superiors and hard work will ensure he gets recommended and selected for the billets he wants and/or the billets that are best suited for his career and personal goals.
  • Anti M

    Allison, single sailors often do get overseas orders as a first assignment,  in some ratings.  It is the married ones they try not to give those orders to.

    Stephanie, he will likely lose that first set of orders if it needs to be filled right away.  If it is not "hot", it might be held for him.  A school sailors rarely get the chance to speak to a detailer, so he has to be certain his dream sheet is filled out requesting commands or ships located in the SD area.  

  • Danimitch

    Hi my name is Dani and I am a girlfriend of a diver in the navy and it's my first time being, with a military man. And this is the first time he's been gone for longer than 2 weeks he has been gone two months and I'm going crazy is there anyone who has tips or advice?

  • Nat

    Hi Dani! I'm on the same boat you are, keeping busy has worked for me with work and school, writing to him everyday really helps me cope too. Another thing I've started doing is online and regular shopping, it's bad lol but a good distraction.
    I know it's hard, but once you keep busy you realize how fast the time passes and already closer to seeing your SR! If you ever want to talk or just vent feel free to send me a message :)
  • Stephanie

    Hey everyone! Need a little help here. Going to visit my boyfriend for thanksgiving, and going on base. What should I wear? I'm been seeing no leggings and ripped jeans, but other than that, I haven't seen many other guidelines. is sweaters and jeans fine? Or what isn't gonna make me look like I don't belong, I want to fit in as much as possible! Thanks:)
  • DieselLady

    @stephanie. Hey girl! It’s not a huge deal what you wear on base. Jeans and a sweater is totally fine! I wear leggings all the time. Just don’t wear anything that would embarrass yourself or your sailor :)
  • Allison

    Stephanie, the rule for Navy bases and events is best remembered as the 4 Bs: no belly, butt, boobs, or back. Leggings are actually not okay, especially without a long shirt, this rule is more important for sailors, but I would be conscious of it. I wear leggings around bases all the time, I just make sure my shirt covers my butt. Great Lakes is more strict than other bases…there's not as much life happening on it since it's almost all training, so they aren't as nice about quick runs to the NEX in yoga pants and stuff. My friend was 8 months pregnant in July heat and told to put on a sweater for wearing a summer dress at the lake. It was totally tasteful, obviously she wasn't feeling sexy haha, but they did say something to her anyway. Anyway, sweaters and jeans, including skinny jeans, are fine. It will be VERY cold unless you're from a cold place, so lots of layers and boots and/or shoes with a grip.
  • Allison

    Oops. Stephanie, I thought this was a different group just for Great Lakes haha. 4 Bs still apply, but you'd probably be able to get away with leggings at most other bases, it's still technically not okay…but like at our last base, half of the compass leaders showed up in leggings/athletic pants and then told us they "weren't allowed" lol.
  • Michael

    What are you talking about. I live on base and women here wear what they want to wear. I see leggings belly’s showing, two pieces, whatever as long as your not dressing like a hooker your fine and how you are talking you sound like a decent girl so you have no issues on what your gonna wear. There is no dress code. Lol funniest thing I ever read. I just think most people just know what they can and can’t wear.