For friends and family of CTNs - Welcome to all new members!
We tend to be a quiet bunch here but, if you ask a question, someone will try to answer you.
Please limit comments to questions, answers, discussions that are in support of our Sailors. This is not the place for politics or religion.
Thank you!
Giraffe
Another question if I may.. hope someone has the answer.. and I apologize in advance for being a pain in the butt..
Can I bring the towel I bought for my SR to sit on with me to PIR, for him to sit on in the shuttle ride back to the hotel?
May 29, 2011
Northwest Annie
May 29, 2011
Northwest Annie
May 29, 2011
Giraffe
Thank you clockard and Annie Ship for the info..
I plan on carrying the towel in a plastic grocery type bag.. lol hope it doesn't embarrass him to much.. lol..
I did go to the "DEP-Leavin for Bootcamp in December" and read what you wrote.. I have had the same problem with my phone when it rings.. my fingers won't work quite fast enough..
May 29, 2011
Giraffe
Here is to a Fantastic Memorial Day.. a friend sent the following to me and it is very appropriate and that I believe in to the depths of my soul.. I am now and always have been so very PROUD of all our military.. past, present and future..
Hope you like it as much as I do.......
May 30, 2011
Giraffe
Jun 1, 2011
Giraffe
Jun 2, 2011
himmiemom
Jun 3, 2011
himmiemom
Jun 3, 2011
himmiemom
Runnermom....My son arrived in Pensacola 2/15 and classed up approx a month later. I have heard that some wait even longer.
Jun 3, 2011
RunnerMom
Jun 6, 2011
himmiemom
Jun 6, 2011
Northwest Annie
Jun 6, 2011
Beachyblonde
Hi everyone!
I'm not the mom of a sailor, but a wife to one. I figure you all will be able to help out with questions and such anyway! My husband has been in the USN since 2006, but is cross-rating from AT to CTN. We are heading to P'Cola for school in a month so we're pretty excited!
Jun 7, 2011
Craig
Beachy - Welcome aboard.... Just fire the questions away, we will help you as much as we can.
Jun 7, 2011
himmiemom
Jun 7, 2011
Northwest Annie
Jun 8, 2011
Giraffe
Hey Craig.. Love the Life Saver...
My son made it to P'cola and is the process of phasing up.. said it would take a month from what he is being told.. was kinda nervous after talking to a few guys about CTN, but finally got to talk to a (mentor ?) and said a weight was lifted off his shoulders.. I'm glad for that.. It is good to hear from him more frequently.
Thanks for the info and I'm sure I'll be talking with all soon
Jun 11, 2011
himmiemom
Talked to my son Sunday and Corry Station has been without internet for over a week. No Skype for two weeks and I am feeling a little weepy. Internet came back up today according to my email from him.
He is loving his "new" class and instructor and is confident he will "get it" this time around.
Jun 14, 2011
Giraffe
Hello all.. seems I only have time on the weekend to talk or ask questions because of my work schedule.
As I noted last weekend my son arrived in P'cola 6/6 the way it worked out and begins CTN school Monday 6/20.. He wants this so much, but only 2 from all who were sent to A school in Pensacola are CTN.. he has talked to others and told how many flunk out of A school.. only one guy was positive and advised as long as he puts his nose to the grind and studies he will do fine.. he also advised my son not to burn himself out on studying also, because that could cause problems as well.
I just told him to get into the school see what is expected and take it from there.. He was very good in statistics and all phases of computers.. He helped with the main frame in the middle & high school here
Is this about right?? I hope I gave him the correct advice, since I'm a novice on computers..
Jun 18, 2011
Northwest Annie
Jun 18, 2011
prov2324mom
Giraffe,
My son, who graduated 5-13, had NO computer experience past email and web browsing and never had a lot of interest in computers survived JCAC. He was basically right in the middle of his class (of 12) GPA wise. He also never studied much in HS or in Comm. College. Got mostly B's an occasional C and A's in a few things. He was smart but not a genius and not especially dedicated to school. That changed in Pensacola. He studied very hard and spent time with a couple of the really smart ones in class. It really is 6 hard months but is doable if they stay serious and dedicated. There was usually time on the weekends to relax a bit but no serious partying because a lot of study was done then as well.
My son turned 20 toward the end of JCAC. He grew up a lot during that time. One thing with him is he had been in BUD /s and had dropped due to an injury. BUD /s also matured him and he did not want to go undes for 2 years. Good motivation to work hard.
Your son will be fine. Tell him to relax when he can but be prepared for a lot of work. Six months will go by faster than he thinks!
Jun 18, 2011
Northwest Annie
Jun 19, 2011
Giraffe
Thank Annie, prov2324mom, and clockard.. I was kinda worried that I should have said more to him.. but figured it would've been overload.. he is a thinker, planner, and saver.. always has been.. his older brother however is a damn the torpedoes full steam ahead type of character, with loads of charisma.
Congrats clockard to your son and his fiance'
Jun 19, 2011
himmiemom
Jun 21, 2011
CMom
Jun 21, 2011
Northwest Annie
Jun 21, 2011
Giraffe
Hello CMom... My son is new to A school so I do not have any tangible advise.. However like Annie Im sending good energy and prayers your sons way and to you as well.. Let us know how it turned out if you don't mind
My son said they are revamping how they instruct.. not so many classroom hours and more study.. if that makes sense to anyone
Jun 21, 2011
Craig
Jun 21, 2011
momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)
Jun 22, 2011
Northwest Annie
Totally understand your feelings CMom. It is all going to work out for your son in the long run. He's going to be OK and happy. I don't understand the threat thing either. Some people aren't motivated by that. You are both in my prayers! :-)
Jun 22, 2011
Craig
CMom - The threats are to keep the sailor motovated. They do it because it works. Having the thought of scrapping barnacles off a ship makes the sailor realize that they need to stop playing the X-box and grabbing a book. It worked for me and kept the thought in my head to study more than chasing women.
CTN school is extremely hard. It has to be. What these guys do in the field is totally amazing. To me, having spent 2 hours in a meeting sounds like he will be given one more chance (just guessing). I'm betting he will be rolled back, and taught to relearn the material. Just curious, how long has he been in CTN "A" school now? If it is more that 1/2 of the course he's got a real good chance of continuing, but he will be rolled back to the next class (again, just guessing).
Lastly, the 1% is a rule. Just like body fat or anything else in the Navy. They set "the bar", and you must meet the minimum requirement. Yes, their are waivers, but they don't hand them out easily. As a mom, just continue to be there and to support him.
Everyone has a problem in life. Whatever the problem is, do your best. If at the end of the day you can say "I did my best today", then you have done your job. Everyone in life has a "Weak Link", there is always something you will have trouble with. Learn to overcome those problems and continuing moving down the track.
Jun 22, 2011
prov2324mom
CMom,
Hope things have been sorted out to the good for your son. The Navy is hard for we the moms to deal with sometimes. The "rules" seem pretty arbitrary sometimes. There have been times I have been very angry over things that have happened. There's nothing I can do about it except pray. Later on I can see that despite the pain at the time it all worked out for the best for my son.
Still we moms aren't as good at accepting the different way of doing things the military has...I know how you feel and don't be ashamed for being frustrated with how things are done. The Navy's not perfect either but our sons and daughters learn through every hardship.
If you need to vent feel free to send me a message...
Jun 23, 2011
Craig
mary - I bet the reason your son made E4 so quickly was because he went to bootcamp as an E3 or he was promoted at boot camp meritoriously . Most of the CTN's will enter as only E2's so their waiting time to meet the Time-In-Rate (TIR) is alot longer.
This is the normal TIR for sailors. You can shave off 1 year if you get an Early Promote (EP) on your evals.
E1 --> E2 = 9 months
E2 --> E3 = 9 months
E3 --> E4 = 6 months
E4 --> E5 = 12 months
E5 --> E6 = 36 months
E6 --> E7 = 36 months
E7 --> E8 = 36 months
E8 --> E9 = 36 months
Jul 10, 2011
ActiveDutyCTN
Quick comment about the current discussion about jobs and schools. It depends on the school as to what will actually transfer and most schools will list explicitly what they will accept from a BDNA or JCAC student on their websites. Often it isn't much, but there is always DANTES and NavyCool that will allow a sailor to get ahead in a degree as well.
About jobs, a degree definitely helps, but what is really an advantage a CTN/I/R sailor has is their clearance. This is a huge money saver for a company when looking at a prospective employee.
I am currently working towards a degree in Information Systems Security with a minor in Intelligence Studies. Online schools are best in my opinion for someone that will be moving every 2-3 years.
As clockard stated, sailors don't need to worry about what degree...just get one! They will get the technical training and experience on the job.
Jul 10, 2011
ActiveDutyCTN
I second craig's post of making rank.
Jul 10, 2011
Giraffe
ActiveDutyCTN.. what you said was interesting. My sailor just started CTN 'A' school.. Guess I'm so new at this I don't understand all the formal initials for everything yet though ;o)
Jul 10, 2011
Giraffe
Jul 10, 2011
Craig
ActiveDuty - My son will be head for NIOC Georgia within the next two months. What is the command like? In the local community, what is there to do to keep the sailor entertained? They probably have University of Maryland on base, but what other colleges do they have?
BTW, welcome aboard!
Jul 10, 2011
ActiveDutyCTN
University of Maryland does have a rep on base, but no classes (what a colleague has said). I personally do online school with American Military University. School opportunities will have to be off base like Augusta State University or online.
The command itself is good. The CO is good at keeping constant awareness of what his enlisted sailors are doing and appreciates everything we do to make the command what it is. The DIRNSA (Director of the NSA) hands out a director's cup every year and we have won it the last two...that to say it is a reflection on the sailors good work ethics and morale of the command, in my opinion. Plenty of opportunities for on the job training, classes offered by the command (many of them "up north" [Maryland]), and college courses.
What is his rank? E4 and below must stay in barracks until a certain capacity and they aren't close to it from the last I heard. E5 and above can get their BAH and live off base. If he can I suggest he stay north of the base: Grovetown, Evans, Martinez (pronounced Martin-ez around these parts). These are the newer parts of the area.
Jul 10, 2011
Craig
ActiveDuty - He's a E5, taking the E6 test in Sept. He's has a sponsor, I forgot the name.
Back in my days, (ie like the 1980's) Ft Gordan was a place that no one wanted because it was extremely old, and dated. How is it now? Do you have alot of CTN volunteering for IA duty?
Jul 11, 2011
ActiveDutyCTN
Alot of Ft Gordon is still dated, however NSA/CSS will be moving to a brand new, state-of-the-art facility starting later this year continuing through the fall of 2012. It is nice...really nice. Other than though, about all that is new is a nice gym and a new Burger King. Everything else looks like it is still from your day!
Jul 11, 2011
Craig
They have alot of CTN's in Hawaii going IA. They are double gapping the CTT billets (since CTN's don't have any) to get them there. It's all volunteer, but quite a bit go. My daughter is friends with alot of them, so she Skype's them while they're there.
Without going into mission, are the CTN's grouped together in Ft. Gordan or are they more compartmentalized? I guess what I'm saying (just to keep it on the "down low") is, do you know all the CTN's there or are some placed in "black world" projects never to be seen from?
If you don't mind, I'd like to talk to you more. I will send you my SID, on the "high side".
Jul 11, 2011
ActiveDutyCTN
Fleet Information Operations Center(FIOC) - this is where most end up
» N3 for Navy division
Network Threat Operations Center (NTOC) - some are here
» N6xx
Tailored Access Operations (TAO) - very few here [about 5 of us], which is where I am, so I don't know very many by name - any of the Navy let alone the CTNs here.
» N6xx
Those on the N3 side tend to stay on their side, as they support "big" Navy and N6 is in support of the agency.
N6 breaks up the CTNs into two divisions so I meet up for quarters and PT (same place/time) and that is about all I get for face time with them.
Sounds like Hawaii is the place to be to get out from behind the desk and see some sunshine.
Jul 11, 2011
Craig
Jul 12, 2011
USNproudMom
Jul 12, 2011
Craig
Jul 18, 2011
prov2324mom
Hi josephsproudwifey,
I'm no expert but I'll answer what I can. My son just graduated in May. Before CTN he was at SEAL training and dropped due to injuries and illness. He was smart but young (19), not a studious type and never dreamed he would become a computer geek in the Navy!
But he was motivated and worked really hard to get through the school so he succeeded. It was 6 months long and I've heard it said it is the hardest school only after Nuke. He is based in Baltimore at Ft. Meade. Lot's of CTN's go there to work at the NSA. My son wanted it because he said there are more opportunities there to do different training. So far they do not go on ships or on deployment.
It sounds like your husband is smart and knows how to study. He would probably do well. I'm sure the others on here with more experience will give you advice too. Good luck to you and your husband.
Jul 20, 2011
linxs321
Hello All!
Just wanted to let you guys know that I am in my last week and if all goes well, will be graduating on Wednesday!!! It's been a long 6 months but hasn't been too bad at all. If anyone has any questions about the school, please feel free to email me and I will try and help you out as best as I can.
Jul 21, 2011
linxs321
Jul 21, 2011