For families and friends of Sailors who are stationed at Norfolk; for either Sea Duty or Shore Duty Sailors. Just make sure to keep OPSEC issues in mind and not disclose ship movements in advance.
She can keep plates on her car and a drivers license from whatever state you're from as long as she has an active duty ID card. Is there a particular reason you want to register it in Virginia?
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She can definitely keep Florida plates and drivers license. Who is your insurance through? Some companies that don't deal with a lot of military have trouble with insurance on cars that are garaged in a different state then where it is registered. The military friendly companies should have no trouble with this...USAA, GEICO, etc. Best to call your insurance company and ask them how to do it since she is active duty military and the vehicle is registered in FL but she'll be in VA.
There may be some circumstances where it would be advantageous to register the car in Virginia if it is cheaper than FL or if the vehicle has to be in FL for an inspection each year, etc. I don't know what the situation is with things like that with you guys, however, she can definitely drive the car in VA with FL plates and drivers license as long as she has a military ID.
Tonya M have her check rates with Nation wide. My son had Geico and one of his shipmates told him about Nation Wide and it was much cheaper rates so he changed.
My son got a very good rate with USAA and they are good with working with military situations. He kept his home state driver's license and purchased and registered his car in Virginia, where those on active military status are exempt from the annual registration renewal fee and personal property tax, just have to present an LES each year. He didn't know that his first year and paid it, but Virginia refunded it the following year. Military local vehicle registration exemption Also this Virginia DMV FAQs for Military.
Tonya M, my son had USAA and switched to Nationwide. It was much cheaper. He turned 24 in April and has two cars, one is a sports car. The insurance is still cheaper. He kept his Texas license and registration in Texas. He's deployed right now and his car is here at our house (I get to drive it). One friend stored his car in a storage unit, another did the lot where they start it for you. He preferred his car to be where he knows who's watching it. Yes, that meant that I had to drive it back to Texas but no biggie. I got to spend a week with him before he left. Nice trade-off.
Then he's going to get quite the workout in Norfolk LOL The base is huge, as is the surrounding area (adjacent Virginia Beach is Virginia's largest city) and winters get cold...much more fun when you can get around comfortably! IMHO.
Will maybe he will figure that out, I think he hopes to not be in port much. He will have to have someone teach him or do they have a decent bus system?
There is no bus service to the piers for the most part. On the weekend there is a bus that returns to the pier from the main NEX but for some reason doesn't go directly from the pier to the NEX. So you can get back from the NEX on the weekend but if you want to ride a bus to the NEX you have to ride it around the whole loop which takes near 45 minutes I believe. It costs $2 to ride it and my son tried it and was able to get back from the NEX once but was never able to get to the NEX.
Oh dear sounds to me like he better get someone to teach him driving and get a license and a cheap car. We did get advice to get a cheap car and sell it when you have a long deployment. I don't think that sounds too logical though. How about bikes?
CO-TwinSalorsMom Ship03Div233 Drivers in Norfolk, as in most of VA (I can say this because I live inVA) are insane maniacs. If your son can learn to drive here, I'd say he could conquer the world!
Lol i lived in virginia beach as well, from a small farm town
Totally agree its insane to drive in and around .. The tunnels and expressways
Drivers are crazy, told my husband if anything ever happened
To him and my son was underway i'd be stuck there until rescued... Lol
We had moved the day after Sandy blew by tunnels were really scary...
Make sure your Sailor asks for their Sponsor to meet them at the airport when they arrive into Norfolk if possible. It will be very confusing for a new Sailor getting to the ship in a Taxi and reporting aboard the ship all alone. Not to mention, trying to pack their seabag, garment bag, backpack, etc. all by themselves is a pain.
My son was lucky that his sponsor offered to meet him at the airport and it was much easier for him than if he would have had to do it alone.
Oh yeah, forgot your daughter is driving...that will be much easier for her. She already knows someone on the Bush? Just make sure she knows someone onboard when she arrives. If she arrives after working hours she's going to be on her own until the next work day which can be overwhelming for a new Sailor. Is much better if there is someone to show her around the ship, her berthing, how to get to her shop, etc. If it is after working hours they are going to check her in on the quarterdeck and get her a rack in berthing and then she'll be left to fend for herself.
Since my son is on the Bush also I'm sure he would be happy to help as well. If she doesn't know anyone I can give you my son's email address and he would be happy to answer any questions she may have. I'm sure he would be happy to show her around the ship but he obviously won't be able to go into the female berthing and he works in a different division, but he could certainly show her around the ship.
Do you have any idea what day she will be arriving in Norfolk? If the ship is underway that is going to change things on how she checks in. If you let me know the day she is going to check in I may be able to tell you offline where she'll need to check-in at.
The problem for Sailors is there simply isn't a bus that runs to the piers where the ships are except for one on the weekend and it doesn't take them to places on base they may need to go. The buses may be great for visitors out in town but for Sailors not so much. Kind of disappointing the largest Navy base in the world doesn't have transportation for Sailors.
When my son got to Norfolk, about a year and a half ago, he didn't take his car. He soon found out about the lack of public transportation. He walked to where he needed but couldn't wait to bring his car back. He did that for six months and hated it, especially when it was cold. He was much happier once he had his car which also doubled as a storage unit. He also needed a way to get AWAY from the ship since he lived on it. He had friends that lived off base and he crash at their apartments on the weekends.
Exactly what my son found, he didn't make it six months and after a month of walking miles on the base in the rain every day he had me ship him his car. He is much happier now that he can get away from the ship and has a place to store some of his extra things.
What do you mean "car pool area"? There is a HUGE parking lot across the street from the pier that the Bush is tied to. It can be a very long walk to the ship depending how far back in the lot they have to park due to everything up closer being full. It would be a terrible walk if a Sailor had to carry all of their stuff, seabag, garment bag, backpack, etc. all at once. Beauty of having a car is you don't have to do it in one trip like you would have to do if you took a taxi and were just dropped off at the end of the pier. Is that what you're referring to as the "car pool area"?
Also, it is better check in mid week or early in the week. If she checks in on a Friday she is going to be on her own for the weekend and won't have a clue what is going on. Checking in mid week if possible gives her a day or two to check in, meet those she will be working with, find her shop, find the mess decks, etc before she has to be on her own for the weekend. I know it isn't always possible to pick when you check in but if she has some leeway then this is something to keep in mind.
Checking in on Friday evening will probably result in her being given a rack and told to report to work Monday morning and she'll be lost all weekend because she doesn't know where anything is.
Lol, it is a "rack" but "little slot" is a better description of it. :) Here is a picture of my son's rack on the Bush. His is the open one on the bottom left...
The Enterprise is on the next pier over from where the Bush ties up. The Enterprise is being retired and has been inactivated and isn't going back out to sea so her friend will be in port when she gets there. There is a parking lot directly across the street from the Bush and the Enterprise.
Dad of Sailor, Thanks for the photos- just want to let you know that I didn't think they were that big. Maybe different sizes on different types of ships? My son on a DDG cannot roll over- his shoulders get stuck. He is a medium- large build. I don't know what the "big guys" do.
My son is on an LPD and they did make the racks a "little" bigger. They are "L" shaped and have a place where you can velcro an iPad so you can look at the screen.
Dad ~ your son's rack looks bigger than what my son currently has. He's just happy to have a place to lay his head. He can pretty much sleep anywhere.
DadofSailor, thanks for the pics of what I will be sleeping in on the Tiger Cruise! I specifically noticed the nice porthole view, balcony, and extra pillows marked "firm", "medium" and "soft" ! Wohoo! :)
Your daughter will tell you about it and it normally happens upon return from a deployment. So after a 6-10 month deployment they allow family members to come on-board for a couple days before the ship returns to port. There are some restrictions on who can be a guest, not boyfriends or girlfriends and I don't think spouses are allowed either, at least they weren't when I was on a ship.
If you can make it work it is a great experience to see your daughter and how she lives and works every day.
Bahahahaha, DadofSailor, that's true! Our son is on the Eisenhower and we just got word the cruise is approved so we are all excited! Both his Dad and I get to go. He's former Navy (flew P3s) and is excited to spend some time on the carrier!
Wow, that is awesome...very cool you both get to go. You'll love it and it is a once in a lifetime opportunity that most civilians only dream about experiencing. Gives you a good appreciation of the sacrifice those Sailors make every day for months at a time to keep the rest of us free. Seeing your son after many months away is a great benefit as well.
This is yours truly in a middle rack on an LHD (USS Iwo Jima). I'm 5'7" and with my elbows bent, my fingertips are touching the rack above me! I don't know how those with a top rack swing up into that narrow space, not to mention sleep in any of them! The second pic is the storage space beneath the mattress.
I recommend that parents look into getting a "Navy rack pack" for your sailor. Most commands allow them, but double-check. These are curtains made just for Navy and CG ships, are darkening and have pockets sewn in for storing iPads, alarm clocks, whatever, and your sailor's last name is embroidered free. The curtains snap into the track inside the existing curtain. The company is woman-owned and she is terrific, tell Pat I said Hi lol She will answer all your questions. http://www.navyrackpacks.com
The curtains are neat but I would caution any Sailor about leaving anything valuable in those pockets like an ipads or the like. Even with the Sailor asleep in the rack it wouldn't take long for the ipad to go missing. Unfortunately the Navy is not immune to theft and there are thieves in every berthing compartment. For stuff that isn't of value those curtains are a great idea.
Little slots made me laugh, thanks. The second posted rack does not look bad. What are they like on smaller ships? My son's ship has 270 crew. Will they have a bit more room?
That sounds like a really neat experience. Too bad they don't allow spouses-so it would seem only parents then? Or are other family members allowed, like siblings or children? Out of curiosity do you know why they don't allow spouses?
@abuon18, as Dad of Sailor said earlier, if spouses/girfriends/boyfriends were allowed, the Navy ship would become the Love Boat! :) The Tiger Cruise is a way for family members and friends to see what life is like on a ship, not romantic reunions - those will happen in a day or two.
Yes, others are normally fine. Children, siblings, parents, etc. They don't allow spouses or BF and GF because they don't want the temptation of those who have been away from their loved one for 9 months. Some would not be able to contain themselves. Sex is strongly prohibited onboard Navy ships and they don't want to have to deal with those that couldn't control themselves.
Dad of Sailor
Tonya,
She can keep plates on her car and a drivers license from whatever state you're from as long as she has an active duty ID card. Is there a particular reason you want to register it in Virginia?
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
May 22, 2013
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
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May 22, 2013
Dad of Sailor
She can definitely keep Florida plates and drivers license. Who is your insurance through? Some companies that don't deal with a lot of military have trouble with insurance on cars that are garaged in a different state then where it is registered. The military friendly companies should have no trouble with this...USAA, GEICO, etc. Best to call your insurance company and ask them how to do it since she is active duty military and the vehicle is registered in FL but she'll be in VA.
There may be some circumstances where it would be advantageous to register the car in Virginia if it is cheaper than FL or if the vehicle has to be in FL for an inspection each year, etc. I don't know what the situation is with things like that with you guys, however, she can definitely drive the car in VA with FL plates and drivers license as long as she has a military ID.
May 22, 2013
Bayou girl
Tonya M have her check rates with Nation wide. My son had Geico and one of his shipmates told him about Nation Wide and it was much cheaper rates so he changed.
May 22, 2013
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
My son got a very good rate with USAA and they are good with working with military situations. He kept his home state driver's license and purchased and registered his car in Virginia, where those on active military status are exempt from the annual registration renewal fee and personal property tax, just have to present an LES each year. He didn't know that his first year and paid it, but Virginia refunded it the following year. Military local vehicle registration exemption Also this Virginia DMV FAQs for Military.
May 22, 2013
Helen, T-man's mom
Tonya M, my son had USAA and switched to Nationwide. It was much cheaper. He turned 24 in April and has two cars, one is a sports car. The insurance is still cheaper. He kept his Texas license and registration in Texas. He's deployed right now and his car is here at our house (I get to drive it). One friend stored his car in a storage unit, another did the lot where they start it for you. He preferred his car to be where he knows who's watching it. Yes, that meant that I had to drive it back to Texas but no biggie. I got to spend a week with him before he left. Nice trade-off.
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
All this insurance talk, I have an anomaly for a kid. He did not want to learn to drive. He is 19 and doesn't drive. He might want his bike.
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
All this insurance talk, I have an anomaly for a kid. He did not want to learn to drive. He is 19 and doesn't drive. He might want his bike.
May 22, 2013
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
Then he's going to get quite the workout in Norfolk LOL The base is huge, as is the surrounding area (adjacent Virginia Beach is Virginia's largest city) and winters get cold...much more fun when you can get around comfortably! IMHO.
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Will maybe he will figure that out, I think he hopes to not be in port much. He will have to have someone teach him or do they have a decent bus system?
May 22, 2013
Dad of Sailor
There is no bus service to the piers for the most part. On the weekend there is a bus that returns to the pier from the main NEX but for some reason doesn't go directly from the pier to the NEX. So you can get back from the NEX on the weekend but if you want to ride a bus to the NEX you have to ride it around the whole loop which takes near 45 minutes I believe. It costs $2 to ride it and my son tried it and was able to get back from the NEX once but was never able to get to the NEX.
During the week there is nothing but taxi cabs.
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Oh dear sounds to me like he better get someone to teach him driving and get a license and a cheap car. We did get advice to get a cheap car and sell it when you have a long deployment. I don't think that sounds too logical though. How about bikes?
May 22, 2013
Dad of Sailor
I've not inquired about bikes so someone else will have to provide that information.
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
May 22, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
May 23, 2013
NonnaB
CO-TwinSalorsMom Ship03Div233 Drivers in Norfolk, as in most of VA (I can say this because I live inVA) are insane maniacs. If your son can learn to drive here, I'd say he could conquer the world!
May 23, 2013
claudia
Totally agree its insane to drive in and around .. The tunnels and expressways
Drivers are crazy, told my husband if anything ever happened
To him and my son was underway i'd be stuck there until rescued... Lol
We had moved the day after Sandy blew by tunnels were really scary...
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
CO-Twin, Tonya,
Make sure your Sailor asks for their Sponsor to meet them at the airport when they arrive into Norfolk if possible. It will be very confusing for a new Sailor getting to the ship in a Taxi and reporting aboard the ship all alone. Not to mention, trying to pack their seabag, garment bag, backpack, etc. all by themselves is a pain.
My son was lucky that his sponsor offered to meet him at the airport and it was much easier for him than if he would have had to do it alone.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Tonya,
Oh yeah, forgot your daughter is driving...that will be much easier for her. She already knows someone on the Bush? Just make sure she knows someone onboard when she arrives. If she arrives after working hours she's going to be on her own until the next work day which can be overwhelming for a new Sailor. Is much better if there is someone to show her around the ship, her berthing, how to get to her shop, etc. If it is after working hours they are going to check her in on the quarterdeck and get her a rack in berthing and then she'll be left to fend for herself.
Since my son is on the Bush also I'm sure he would be happy to help as well. If she doesn't know anyone I can give you my son's email address and he would be happy to answer any questions she may have. I'm sure he would be happy to show her around the ship but he obviously won't be able to go into the female berthing and he works in a different division, but he could certainly show her around the ship.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Tonya,
Do you have any idea what day she will be arriving in Norfolk? If the ship is underway that is going to change things on how she checks in. If you let me know the day she is going to check in I may be able to tell you offline where she'll need to check-in at.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
The problem for Sailors is there simply isn't a bus that runs to the piers where the ships are except for one on the weekend and it doesn't take them to places on base they may need to go. The buses may be great for visitors out in town but for Sailors not so much. Kind of disappointing the largest Navy base in the world doesn't have transportation for Sailors.
May 23, 2013
Helen, T-man's mom
When my son got to Norfolk, about a year and a half ago, he didn't take his car. He soon found out about the lack of public transportation. He walked to where he needed but couldn't wait to bring his car back. He did that for six months and hated it, especially when it was cold. He was much happier once he had his car which also doubled as a storage unit. He also needed a way to get AWAY from the ship since he lived on it. He had friends that lived off base and he crash at their apartments on the weekends.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Helen,
Exactly what my son found, he didn't make it six months and after a month of walking miles on the base in the rain every day he had me ship him his car. He is much happier now that he can get away from the ship and has a place to store some of his extra things.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Tonya,
What do you mean "car pool area"? There is a HUGE parking lot across the street from the pier that the Bush is tied to. It can be a very long walk to the ship depending how far back in the lot they have to park due to everything up closer being full. It would be a terrible walk if a Sailor had to carry all of their stuff, seabag, garment bag, backpack, etc. all at once. Beauty of having a car is you don't have to do it in one trip like you would have to do if you took a taxi and were just dropped off at the end of the pier. Is that what you're referring to as the "car pool area"?
Also, it is better check in mid week or early in the week. If she checks in on a Friday she is going to be on her own for the weekend and won't have a clue what is going on. Checking in mid week if possible gives her a day or two to check in, meet those she will be working with, find her shop, find the mess decks, etc before she has to be on her own for the weekend. I know it isn't always possible to pick when you check in but if she has some leeway then this is something to keep in mind.
Checking in on Friday evening will probably result in her being given a rack and told to report to work Monday morning and she'll be lost all weekend because she doesn't know where anything is.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Lol, it is a "rack" but "little slot" is a better description of it. :) Here is a picture of my son's rack on the Bush. His is the open one on the bottom left...
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
They are called racks and the racks are located in the berthing compartment. Here is another of the entire rack...
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
The Enterprise is on the next pier over from where the Bush ties up. The Enterprise is being retired and has been inactivated and isn't going back out to sea so her friend will be in port when she gets there. There is a parking lot directly across the street from the Bush and the Enterprise.
May 23, 2013
navymommo
Dad of Sailor, Thanks for the photos- just want to let you know that I didn't think they were that big. Maybe different sizes on different types of ships? My son on a DDG cannot roll over- his shoulders get stuck. He is a medium- large build. I don't know what the "big guys" do.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
navymommo,
The big guys hope they can get a top rack which is open and isn't enclosed on the top. Or they suffer and wish they were "little guys".
May 23, 2013
Helen, T-man's mom
My son is on an LPD and they did make the racks a "little" bigger. They are "L" shaped and have a place where you can velcro an iPad so you can look at the screen.
Dad ~ your son's rack looks bigger than what my son currently has. He's just happy to have a place to lay his head. He can pretty much sleep anywhere.
May 23, 2013
Lauriekay1
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
May 23, 2013
abuon18
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Tonya,
Your daughter will tell you about it and it normally happens upon return from a deployment. So after a 6-10 month deployment they allow family members to come on-board for a couple days before the ship returns to port. There are some restrictions on who can be a guest, not boyfriends or girlfriends and I don't think spouses are allowed either, at least they weren't when I was on a ship.
If you can make it work it is a great experience to see your daughter and how she lives and works every day.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
The Bush group is a bit slow...maybe we need to get it going huh?
May 23, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
WOW Dad of a sailor Thanks for that, it sounds like something definitely to do.
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Yeah, if they allowed spouses or BF and GF's it would turn into the love boat instead of a warship.
May 23, 2013
Lauriekay1
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Laurie,
Wow, that is awesome...very cool you both get to go. You'll love it and it is a once in a lifetime opportunity that most civilians only dream about experiencing. Gives you a good appreciation of the sacrifice those Sailors make every day for months at a time to keep the rest of us free. Seeing your son after many months away is a great benefit as well.
May 23, 2013
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
This is yours truly in a middle rack on an LHD (USS Iwo Jima). I'm 5'7" and with my elbows bent, my fingertips are touching the rack above me! I don't know how those with a top rack swing up into that narrow space, not to mention sleep in any of them! The second pic is the storage space beneath the mattress.
I recommend that parents look into getting a "Navy rack pack" for your sailor. Most commands allow them, but double-check. These are curtains made just for Navy and CG ships, are darkening and have pockets sewn in for storing iPads, alarm clocks, whatever, and your sailor's last name is embroidered free. The curtains snap into the track inside the existing curtain. The company is woman-owned and she is terrific, tell Pat I said Hi lol She will answer all your questions. http://www.navyrackpacks.com

May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
The curtains are neat but I would caution any Sailor about leaving anything valuable in those pockets like an ipads or the like. Even with the Sailor asleep in the rack it wouldn't take long for the ipad to go missing. Unfortunately the Navy is not immune to theft and there are thieves in every berthing compartment. For stuff that isn't of value those curtains are a great idea.
May 23, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Anybody know what the racks are like on the USS Bainbridge?
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
CO-Twin,
Small... :)
May 23, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Little slots made me laugh, thanks. The second posted rack does not look bad. What are they like on smaller ships? My son's ship has 270 crew. Will they have a bit more room?
May 23, 2013
abuon18
May 23, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Good thing my son Twin1 is 5'8" his twin2 is 6'4" might be more of a challenge.
May 23, 2013
CO-TwinSalorsMom
Good thing my son Twin1 is 5'8" his twin2 is 6'4" might be more of a challenge.
May 23, 2013
Marcy ~ Corpsman Mom
@abuon18, as Dad of Sailor said earlier, if spouses/girfriends/boyfriends were allowed, the Navy ship would become the Love Boat! :) The Tiger Cruise is a way for family members and friends to see what life is like on a ship, not romantic reunions - those will happen in a day or two.
This was posted for a longer-than-normal Tiger Cruise aboard USS Carl Vinson last year but should answer most of your questions (some requirements may change but the essence is there): http://www.navyformoms.com/profiles/blogs/tiger-cruise-frequently-a...
May 23, 2013
Dad of Sailor
Yes, others are normally fine. Children, siblings, parents, etc. They don't allow spouses or BF and GF because they don't want the temptation of those who have been away from their loved one for 9 months. Some would not be able to contain themselves. Sex is strongly prohibited onboard Navy ships and they don't want to have to deal with those that couldn't control themselves.
May 23, 2013