Sub Moms

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  • Connie foaling-lady (Groton)

    Decided to go all-out for b'day gift since won't see son at Christmas either. Kindle. Or Nook? Or Kindle Fire? Posted this question on nuke moms group, but advice from the sub folks would be appreciated. Also, what accessories will he need? And how do I load books on it? Probably going thru Amazon.

  • Mark

    Loading the books is easy, Connie - the process will vary depending on whether you choose one with 4G wireless or not. One absolute must - I know most e-readers don't have a camera built in, but make sure the one you get does not have one, or it will not be permitted on board. If you want it to be a surprise, make sure you will be able to return it if the device is not permitted on board for some other reason - subs are getting very persnickitty about personal electronic devices.
  • William in Nashua

    When we toured my son's fast attack submarine he told the whole family we must  leave our cell phones in our car in the parking lot and he left his in the car too. This was with- or without a camera  on it (one of us has no camera on theirs).   If it can make wireless phone calls you must not bring it on his boat.  I was not just we were guests of the submarine, because the crew is not allowed to either.

  • Gulf Coast Mom

    Connie - my son was also gone for his birthday.  I knew they had very little storage space and of course no way to get mail, and sometimes very little e-mail so I bought a thinking of your/encouragement card for each of the anticipated number of weeks away and if there was any special holiday and sent the to him to take with him.  I managed to get them all in one of the little pay one price boxes from the USPS ( the one that is like 6x8x1 very little).  For his birthday I sent a card, a Little Debbie brownie with the colored sprinkles in its cellophane wrapper, wrapped in a birthday napkin.  It wasn't much (or a cupcake) but it let him know we were thinking of him.  I also included a pen with the logo of his favorite sports team.  At least I felt like he know that I remembered. 

  • Michimom (MM Nuke Mom)

    My son has a Kindle, which he likes. He bought himself some sort of velcro accessory so he can attach the Kindle overhead in his rack and read it that way. Sounds pretty cool to me, but I haven't seen it.
  • susank

    Yes my son loves his kindle on the sub! Before we toured his sub they told us" you are welcome to bring your cell phone on the sub but you will never see it again!" It was amazing to see( on our 10 hour ride ) not one person looking at a phone!
  • BJA57

    Hi! My son's birthday is today..... he is in the middle of some ocean- under the sea...  All his siblings and grandparents (and us) sent him emails. I wish I would have thought give him something to open on today... also, he does have a (Toshiba) tablet that I believe he took with him that was downloaded with books, recordings and movies.

  • William in Nashua

    Happy birthday to your son BJA57, many happy returns.

  • Nana Donna (nanaTo2Saliors)

    My grandson just turned 21 the end of February while he was underway, then a week later got his Dolphins.

    He got to do a bit of celebrating last week while they ported

  • NavymomJanet

    I am just jumping in here, a newbie poster. Please bear with me. Still catching up on all of the rules/regs. Officer son will be underway shortly. I am looking for that navymom cushion; this is the first time out to sea thus, we will be out of direct contact since, oh gosh, 2007. Feeling my heartstrings and that sadness.

  • susank

    Welcome Janet. We are here to support you and answer your questions! So ask away!
  • Connie foaling-lady (Groton)

    Sorry, more Kindle questions. Looks like Kindle Fire is out since all versions have cameras. So .... E reader only, Paperwhite? However, I'm seeing on specs that can be charged only thru a laptop USB ... can my son take his laptop aboard the sub? I am not a tech person .... so many Kindle versions available, would like to get the most useful but don't have time to return it if I make a mistake ... son deploys very soon.

  • Rhonda8881

    My Kindle Fire does not have a camera.  It is a 1st generation Kindle.  The Kindle Fire HD has the camera. The Paperwhite is better for reading in the sunlight.  I can see mine okay if I up the brightness to maximum in the sun.  Not perfect but okay for reading.  

    Yes your son can bring his laptop on the the sub.  If he does not have his quals/fish yet he won't have much time to use it but unless his command has a reason to not allow them he can bring it.  My son has brought his with him every time since he received his fish.

  • navyboy2012

    Not to change the subject cuz I'm finding all this informational! But I think I read some where that they give family members rides on the subs?? And if so how do one go about setting that up?? My son finally got stationed at his home port this month. 3 days after arriving there they switched his sub and on the 6th day he is in the water and underway. Gonna be a short run but if all goes well they will come in and leave 6 days later for a 6 months deployment. So it looks like my son will be spending his 20th birthday on a sub.

     

  • NavymomJanet

    Thank you, Susank, for the welcome aboard :)

  • Kaye S.

    The first yr son's birthday was near departure for a patrol, we went through the "on-again-off-again" game with the departure date - so, no one knew whether his birthday would be on the boat or not.  Ultimately, I discovered the boat would be truly departing within 24 hrs.  (No, I'm not telling how I found out - and it wasn't my kid)!

    For those in Kitsap Co., WA - I called The Candy Shoppe  in Port Orchard and learned they could deliver to the base.  I had all the Sour Patch Kids they had on hand (7 lbs.) delivered to the boat's office in a box with a bow and a note.  It was taken to the boat just before departure.  He was tickled to death!

    He also got quite a few "check outs" on his quals, luring instructors with candy!

  • heebsmom

    Connie: my son has a Kindle fire we got it x-mas of 2011 so it does not have a camera, maybe you could get an old one on E-Bay?
    Navyboy2012: Ride alongs: We were on the list (your son needs to put you on a list if the cob asks who wants to do the ride along) we were planning on it but it was cancelled within the last week. we actually never had a schedule date, just an idea of when it would happen. So if you are not close to the base it could be a waste of time & $$$$ to travel.
  • susank

    Yes you have to be very patient to get a ride on a sub. We got to ride from one base to another into the shipyard so it was a real working trip. It got postponed 3 times before it happened. We got up 3 days in a row at about 3:00am only to have it cancelled. We were from out of state so we changed airline reservations 3 times and lost money. I was ready to give up but my husband wanted to wait one last time. It finally happened and it was an experience of a lifetime. Very humbling to see how hard they work!!!!!!
  • heebsmom

    Susank: Thats sounds awesome!!!!!! glad you got to go, I hope I get to ride along one day, they are out right now, so fingers crossed.
  • NF Mom

    My husband suggested that some commands might permit laptops, kindles, and such equipment where the camera had been physically and permanently removed, even if it did not originally come that way.

    Has anyone heard of this ?

  • NF Mom

    Gaile Ann, is there a group on Navy for Moms for the Henry M. Jackson?

    My son has orders to the HMJ.

  • Popeye's Mom Alum DIV 031 1-6-12

    susank-That sounds awesome! We would probably be in the same "boat" cause we live in Ohio & our sailor's in Groton but that would be so cool to "take a ride."

  • Mark

    NF Mom - permanently disabling the camera is an option in some areas of the Nuclear Navy support establishment, but the SUBPAC instruction (which applies on board all subs in the Pacific Fleet) specifically does not allow disabling the camera either.  If the device ever had a camera, it is prohibited.  I do not know if the SUBLANT instruction is any more flexible.

  • susank

    Enjoyed the video Lisbeth! Good luck to your son. I must say I am a little jealous that your son is starting his shore duty. We have 8 months to go!
  • Newsubmom

    Lisbeth, Make sure you visit in Norfolk! It is a fun place with lots to do and see, the boardwalk at VA Beach, great food and Williamsburg is just around the corner! Best wishes to you and your son....mine is waiting for land orders now too...and probably going overseas! Another adventure for him and us!
  • Terri

    My son is having a second surgery in six months in Groton tomorrow. Thankfully his dad was able to fly out to be with him again. I would appreciate prayers.
  • Sunshine66

    Terri, prayers for your son. Glad his father can be there with him.
  • Jachay

    Hi Sub Moms!  My son is still in BootCamp, PIR 4/12/13.  I'm anxious for that to be over, him to go on to Connecticut school and get started in his sub training.  I'll start reading all the info here.  Sure I have LOTS to learn!

  • heebsmom

    welcome Jachay!
  • JTFsubmom

    Prayers to yo Big Blue for a call!
  • William in Nashua

    Terri, prayers for your son and I wish him a full recovery.

  • awestb

    My Sailor just graduated Sub school and is headed to Norfolk to serve on the USS Helena.  To say the least, I am a nervous wreck full of emotion and not really sure what to expect.  Looking forward to learning lots from each of you!

  • NavymomX2

    Hello everyone. I have been a member for a while now, but never have commented. I have 2 sons in the Navy, but only one that is on a sub. I have not seen him since Christmas of 2011, and tear up at the thought of his arrival home for a visit. He happens to be on the Providence. BigBlue, I noticed you had posted about an article you read about them returning after 7 months. Can you tell me where you saw the article? I am shaking just thinking about receiving a call from my son. Thank you.

  • NavymomX2

    @BigBlue - thank you so much for the information. Just knowing he is back on land lifts my spirits, as I was in a terrible car crash yesterday due to the weather here, and a little down. Now I am just wishing my phone would ring! 

    @Seahorse - thank you for the links. I have to agree with BigBlue though. Seeing all the pictures of everyone hugging their men makes me a little sad. I am in Wisconsin, so jumping in the car to see him is not an option. Besides, I currently do not have a vehicle as of yesterday's crash, so I am stuck waiting.

  • awestb

    Thank you  Brooklynmomantoinette!  I am super excited for him and his future.  He is a CS.  He is on transfer leave and goes to Norfolk on Friday.  He has been in touch with his Chief and sounds like there is a deployment coming up pretty quick. With that upcoming deployment I am not sure what to expect at all and of course I don't want to overwhelm him with questions so what I can learn from y'all maybe with a mix of what he wants and can share is what is what I am hoping for. Thank you so much for the words of encouragement!  I look forward to being part of this group!  (Please be prepared for lots of questions lol

     

  • Connie foaling-lady (Groton)

    I see from the earlier link about the Providence that 24 men re-upped during the deployment. Would that be tax-free, as they were in several areas of the Middle East? My son is still on the fence about what to do ... today he graduated from nuclear welding school and attaches today to his boat. Another training milestone in the nuclear pipeline...

  • NF Mom

    Good Question Connie, "Would that be tax-free, as they were in several areas of the Middle East?"

  • NavymomX2

    BigBlue, I am just a little banged up. Very fortunate by the looks of my totaled vehicle though. It all happened so fast. Hearing from my son would definately make me feel so much better right now. I miss him so much, I'm sure just like all the other parents who's men and ladies are away from home serving their country. 

  • Terri

    My son's surgery was postponed for a week. The hospital did not order something that was needed. Oh well, he decided to take leave since his dad is there and they can have fun together. I am jealous since I have to be home and at work. They keep texting pictures of the great food that they are eating.
  • NavymomJanet

    USS Providence (SSN 719) Returns From Deployment on youtube ==== I am attempting to post a youtube that was posted in a fb page Navy page i subscribe to. Maybe you ccan find this also if you google...thought i would share since i saw some Providence Mama's. :)

    NavymomX2 - hope you are feeling better.
    Terri - all my best to your son. so happy that his Dad can be with him.
  • NavymomJanet

    LOL yes, i think mine does tooooo!! Our first underway now, so I am REALLY feeling that silence ;( trying to stay very busy. I caregive of sorts for an ill dh, and have 2 other boys, so not much time to think about the silence :)
    have a good weekend all, and know we are a sisterhood like no other! :)
  • heebsmom

    BigBlue: my son is also a Nuke, and they are the last to leave the boat and he could also have watch so that would be another day before he gets off the boat: )
    Drives my DIL crazy because my son seems to get watch the day before they leave and the day they get back.
  • NavymomJanet

    Thanks much, BigBlue,....
  • NavymomJanet

    ooooo BigBlue, FABULOUS NEWS!! :D Enjoy!!!
  • Newsubmom

    I don't get to comment a lot but I follow every day! My fingers have been crossed for you Big Blue! Those calls are so important and so glad you got yours!!!!!
  • heebsmom

    Great news Big Blue!!!! have fun: )
  • Kaye S.

    BigBlue - While he's on patrol, when folks ask where my son is, I reply, "Underwater in the Pacific Ocean."  Usually folks just laugh and we move on.

    If they ask more specifically, I say, "Even HE doesn't know where he is - there aren't any windows and only Skipper & the Nav look at the map!"

    I've also had fun telling folks, "He says that if the intake water is warm, they're near the equator; if it's cold, they're not !"

  • sonia

    Hello everyone, I am a new Sub mom. We just attended my son's graduation from school in Groton CT 3 weeks ago.  He arrived it Pearl Harbor yesterday and will be stationed on the USS Hawaii. I'm sure I will have questions, and look forward to getting to know you.

  • susank

    Congratulations Sonia and welcome to the group. You will learn a lot on here!
  • navyboy2012