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Carolyn... that wud be nice... but i decided to just order a big birthday cookie from 800.bakery.com... still expensive but not a $35 delivery fee... that's just outrageous..

yea especially if he has FPO address.... id try internet... Juniors cheesecake is gud (saw it on qvc website under food) LOL ... yyuummmm...

Colleen, Head over to Molly's adopt a sailor group. There is a mom over there that has a recipie for cake or pie in a jar. They stay fresh until they are opened and are a great idea to send to ship. Just ask and some one will point you to the right discussion.

There's some good ideas here - I'll have to write them down!
LindainIvorVA - I like the big cookie. Let us know how that all turns out - I think your daughter will be surprised and very pleased.
LLovemytwosalors - I also like the cake or pie in a jar - my son would love to be assigned to a ship and that would be something nice to send too.
He called this morning - a group is going to the beach for the first time. He said they were out and about last evening and saw a lot of palm trees. He said the best thing about Florida - there's no corn fields in sight. Lol! He's been in such a hurry to leave Iowa - he'll have fun traveling in the Navy.

Corinne, aww.. bless his heart ... too funny!!! yes, he'll have fun.. where in FL is he?

Linda -
He's at Corry Station and taking the introductory classes yet. He just arrived there last week. We shipped his laptop and other "important stuff" down there. Today he asked how much it cost us to ship cause now he wants a few shorts and T-shirts sent too. I'll have it ready to send off on Monday.
It's going to get unusually hot and humid here tomorrow - it should give our corn fields a good start. I'll have to e-mail him some typical Iowa scenes all summer - it will be cute to hear or read his comments!

Corinne, how sweet is that ! Hope you get a gr8 crop !!! oh, so he's not on a Destroyer yet ? ok... too funny... wish him all the luck !! what's his rate ? My daughter is in CTT school.. so far so gud.. keeping fingers & toes crossed.

Linda - He's going to be a CTR . We dont know much about it - typical for this type of work and this group - right? Mom & Dad won't hear any details - but I think he should like his job - I'm glad. I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed too!!

JB's Mom - I think he'll miss Iowa at some point too. He's enjoying being out and about and on his own.
It's great your son is almost done with his classes and will get his orders. Hope you can let us know a little of where he will go. I'm just curious about where everyone would like work. My son wants to be on a ship - has never been on one - but that's what he thinks he wants right now.

Corinna - just found your note. That's way too funny that our names are spelled so closely! That's great your son will be in Hawaii! Isn't it something how these young sailors can get out to some really fantastic places? Man, I haven't been too far from home and didn't really notice, until now. I can't wait to see one of those huge ships up close. That will be something! Have fun at graduation and thanks for the note!

Yep - Noticed this morning on the way to work - rows of corn just barely breaking ground. I'll have to take the camera along tomorrow and start a series of pictures! Lol - my kid will think I don't have anything better to do!

Hi everyone ! I went to see my baby and arrived there about 10:30 Mon evening.
left yesterday morn and got back here to VA about 12:15 ... we met her friends at Flounders Seafood restaurant and she had her b-day cookie (think it wa stale, sure luked it) But so awesome to see her even if it wa for a few hrs a day .. wish I knew if her friends moms were on here !!!! I can't yell out your name or I wud !
bunch of nice young men and young ladies... my husband & I were so dag gone proud !!!!!! so worth the long drive to bring her car .... now the worry begins again... didn't see beach or anything... but she stayed with us in our room 2 times!!! I was soooo happy.... now I'm missing her again... OH well.. this 2 shall pass.... the kids are so motivated !!!! Shocking !! what a wonderful feeling for these kids...

Theresa..... congrats !!!! wonderful !

Frocking is when they put the Stripe on.. but not necessarily get paid then ..
CONGRATS !

Deykaris.. go to navy moms in Pensacola & corry station too ... Jacqueline Manning is the expert.. !!!!

Clockard.. not sure what you mean I'd do same as above... i was in Nav more than 30 yrs ago.. things change.. sorry !

Just found out my son will be a grad n go for CTT after PIR on 7/23...was kind of surprised cuz it seemed like most of the CT's had a down time prior to A school from what I had read...we are a little sad as we had planned the whole weekend to spend with him in GL...

Lol Susan...thanks for the info...hoping he doesn't leave too early. There are 5 of us going to see him and it's going to be emotional as it is with not having any time with him!

We only had about 20 minutes on base with our son after PIR. BUT we did go to the airport (got a guest pass) and got to visit over two hours with him. It was better than nothing, but certainly not the weekend that we wanted. Be prepared for anything. I took our son a black bag with his laptop, his cell phone, and his favorite shorts and t-shirt.

Hey everyone ! How's the CT group? Anyone got sailor in CTT with orders leaving shortly? I'm trying to hold my breath on my daughter.. not sure when she grads.. think she got C school too... Miss her terribly... Hope everyone is well !!! :)

more schooling ? wow... thank god he passed... so he on ship now ? terrible to hear alot of them didn't pass... lord... how demeaning ! and I hear ya about the technology thang !!! LMAO

That's fantastic ! Congrats !!!

Congrats to your son John!!

Hello all, My nephew just left yesterday for BC. He will be a CTT. Just wanted to meet other CT's familes going thru bc. I know this is "NavyForMoms", I hope you guys don't care if a guy is here cheering on his nephew.... I'm a retired CTM, my son is a CTN2. We are a CT family...

Craig, welcome! How wonderful !! You must be so proud !! Wish your nephew the best !!!!

Spacey, Ask away... I can explain almost everything you need to know, I've been helping Deppers and families understand Navy stuff for quite a while. You'll notice that I will usually site the offical instructions on the rules. The only reason I do, is once you know the rules, then you can beat the rules and make them work in your favor.
To all others, thank you for allowing me to be here. I just find it fun to meet other families (expecially from the same bootcamp unit) to joke with and talk Navy. My wife should be along shortly... (Once I can get her to quit playing "Bejeweled")...

Hey Debbie... I heard about the Navy dads website however I never joined. Navy dads just don't get into the Navy stuff like moms do. Moms are more verbal when it comes to their sailors. They're un-afraid to scream and yell congratulations during the PIR. During my sons PIR we had 12 families from his ship get together the night before the PIR for dinner, and we whooped it up during the PIR to congratulate the new Sailors. We really had a great time.

So, it's not that I need support, but I want to be part of families that want to cheer their sailors on, whether at bootcamp or at their duty stations. This is where I think N4M messed up. It isn't just mom that stand behind their sailors, it's also dads, sisters, brothers, BF, GF, aunts, uncles, and grandparents. I feel we should all stand united for them. But, I also know that some would rather keep the members seperated, which I totally understand too. Thus why I asked if it would be ok to be in this area. If anyone feels that me being here ruins their enjoyment of N4M, please pm me. I will keep your wishes private, and will leave the group.
Here is a pic from the night before PIR get together for my son.

Hey Dee, Yep it was at Flanagans... This was back in 2007, I think N4M was just getting started and not all that well known. I was on another Navy forum board and we had 15,000 forum views for my sons ship. It was a real fun time. To have 12 families from a group of 75 was quite good back then...

Oh Lord... my daughter put in her dream sheet ... even tho the needs of the navy come first...

Craig she CTT in A school ... her chances of Japan, HI Or San Diego ? WE just hoping she don't get Norfolk as that area is where we live !!!! LOL ....

Linda, just curious if she will be going onto "C" school. The reason I ask is depending on her NEC then you can pretty much tell where she will be going. Example: If you learned to repair 85 foot dishes, then they're not putting you on a ship. Example 2: If your a CTI and your language is Farsi, then they're probably not going to put you in Japan.
As a normal CTT, my bets are.......Hi if single, SD if married......

Hey Jill, you might not understand this, but he will. If he obliserve's (Obligated service) for orders, then he falls completely out of Zone "A" for reenlistment. It's about a $30K mistake that alot of sailor make (and the Navy won't tell you about).

Somehow I knew that you would ask that... For reenlistment purposes there are 3 zone levels. Zone A = 4 to 6 years, Zone B = 6 to 10 years, Zone C = 10 to 14 years. So lets say your sailor has to Obliserve for orders for a 3 year tour. Lets say your sailor already has 3.5 years in. So 3.5 plus 3 year tour = 6.5 years. Your sailor would totally miss the Zone A reenlistement bonus (about $30K) depending on the rating because he entended beyond his 6 year point (ie he missed the time frame of 4 to 6 years). Remember, the Navy goes "As entended" when figuring out bonuses. I think I wrote this answer up at another website, if I did, then I will repost here for you.

Craig ... wow ... she only got offered the 4yr.. she's trying to do the 6yr for C school.. but I imagine she's not getting C if she put dream sheet in already ... Wow, i'm learning about this too.. with the bonus ... i don't quite get it either... btw, my husband retired ET.. I was RM (years years ago) shuda done the 20 .. i had brain fart... got out as E6 with 8yrs 9mo already up for chief exam.. but didn't make board... i got out cuz they wudn't give me ship outa Norf... also, my daughter did request a ship too! Oh lord have mercy ... waiting onmore info for you to send about that bonus thing.. So happy you've joined !!

Craig, she's going for CTT .. wanted CTI but didn't take the exam .. oh well.

Jill, I need to know a couple things... What is his rating? What is his NEC (Navy Enlisted Code). What is his TIS (Time in Service)? Did he sign up orginally for 4 or 6 years? Did he already extend? I can easily figure what's best for him once I know this info.
Linda, wow a real RM. God you don't see them often now a days... I wished my kid had the chance of doing the 4 yr thing. You make out so much better than a 6 yr person ($$$). If I were her, I'd put in for a Direct Support (DIRSUP) billet instead of a ship. With DIRSUP you have the joys of both worlds. You're not stuck on the same ship for 3 years, and you get shore duty. Nothing beats DIRSUP in my opinion....

Dee, he will more that likely get orders to Kunia, then they will farm him out to Pearl Harbour for DIRSUP duty. When ships come and go to the Indian Ocean alot of ships have just temporary CT spaces. The way it use to be is the CTM's would come from the Subic Bay Philippines, CTO's from Guam, CTI's from Hawaii, CTR's and CTT's from Clark AFB Philippines, and the CTA's from Japan. We would all meet up in San Diego and ride the ship to the Indian Ocean, stay there for 90 days, then everyone would get off at the Philippines and fly home. The CTI's were the only ones who never stayed to long because we always helo'd them off to support other ships.
God knows why any CTI would ever want to leave Monterey, I would love to fail some of my classes just to stay there for a little while longer....-ha

Jill & Linda, per the SRB. The above Discussion forum will not allow me to post a Word document. You'll need to go to the below link and download it. If you could, please try to do it today because I want to lock that section back up again. You should be able just to click the link and get in.
http://www.navydep.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040

Bama - I hope he doesn't get stuck with Korean. On the last quotas, only 3% made it. Here is the link to the quotas.... Just read down to the CTI's, And here is the number for the different groups..
CTI (1) = Arabic
CTI (2) = Persian/Farsi
CTI (3) = Chinese
CTI (4) = Korean
CTI (5) = Spanish
CTI (6) = Russian
http://www.navytimes.com/projects/careers/navy/e4toe6quotas/2010/

Melissa- I'm glad to see CTM's still out there. That was my rating. It was suppose to go away in 2007. At the last minute that save it. By then, all of my friends who were CTM's crossrated to CTN's. So these guys have great advancment opportunities since everyone left....

Craig... wow .. thanks !! yea i had best years of my life ! 1st duty sta was PI .. that was a bit to overcome at first... but i extended there ! go figure... loved Clark AFB too!
you are gonna b one busy man on this site !!!!!!!! textedmy daughter with the info..
again, TY !

Dee, E1 thru E3's don't complete in Navy wide exams. You will never find them. That list refers to E4's thru E-6 only.

Woo-hoo, got "The Box" today. What I found funny was we told Alex to just wear throw-away clothes and shoes that way he wouldn't have to encure the cost of shipping back unless clothes. So here the 12 inch x 12 inch box comes. All that was in it was his cell phone and battery. It wasn't bubble wrapped nor packed in any type of protection. I guess BC only uses one type of box, I would be funny to see if someone sent nail clippers home if it would be in a 12x12 box.....

Karen, to explain the chart I will use the rating ABE since its directly under the meaning. Every 6 months Navy Times does this chart they put the blank column in the wrong spot. People have complain for years, but they never fix it. So E6's go all the way time you see "E5 Rating".
So on the far left side you will see: "E6 Rating", "Test Passers", "207 Quota", "207 OPP", "204 Quota", "204 OPP" THEN the E5's repeat....then the E4's....
So:
1. E6 Rating = ABE ABE is an aviation rating, just like a CTT is a Crypto rating
2. Test Passers = So for ABE 202 people took the test and passed the test. Just because you passed the test doesn't mean you will be advanced, it just means you passed test. Suppose you had a Sailor that does really good on test, but he looks like a dirt ball in uniform. His evals will reflect that he looks like crap in uniform and it will prevent him being advanced.
3. 207 Quota = So for ABE 27 is the number of people the Navy needs. They draw a line, those above the amount needed will be advanced, those below will not. So, you'll see ABE 202 took the test and passed, but the Navy only need 27. 207 is a test cycle number. Every test for every advancment cycle has a number. Think of it like a date code. So, 207 was that last test. The one previous was 204. They are not in order, and there is a reason for that, but you so new that until you know this part, you will never understand the next.
4. 207 OPP - For ABE you see 13.37%. This is the "opportunity" for those that took the test to make advancement. So only 13.37% actually got promoted.
5. 204 Quota - ABE is 22. So on the previous cycle the Navy needed 22 ABE's, this cycle they need 27, so it looks like Sailors are getting out of the ABE rating.
6. 204 OPP - ABE is 10.78%, so only 10.78% of the sailors that took the test were advanced on the cycle before the 207 cycle.
You would continue on to the E5's then to the E4's....
So now look at CTI(4) for E5's. So for Korean linguist (4), they had 31 sailors take the test and only 1 was advanced. That's only 3.23%. They happen to have the same percentage for the 204 cycle too. Man, 3.23% means you need to start looking for another job. You want to be in a group that at least has a 40% chance.
Does that make sence to you guys?
Be careful looking at the chart, about 1/2 down the columns for the rating shift (they are not on the same line)...

Here is the offical instuction concerning advancements....You'll see at Para 202 (page 26) the TIR needed.
http://www.bupers.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/648D1DBD-58F2-4A73-9E07-8A2...

But understand CT's fall into a totally different category compared to the regular Navy. Read Para 10C here
http://www.bupers.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/0B098DCF-1709-4A05-8B34-C8C...
The big thing most people think is you must have a "A" school to advance to E4. That is not the case, you can also be a designed striker to compete for E4. Example, you have a Boatswain Mate (BM), who went into the Navy undesginated (no "A" school). They can put in and strike to be a BM, and the CO can approve them to take the E4 exam, but they never went to "A" school.

Dee, look at para 704 of the 1st link I post (about 5 down from here). What happens is everyone time is dated on the 16th of the month. The will be frocked until that date. The reason they do this is they don't want some CO to promote their guy 1 day early, just to have their guy senior to the guy that was promoted 1 day later. Example: Suppose I graded from CTM school on 7 July, and a CTN graduated July 8, then I would be senior that the other guy because I was promoted 1 day early. So everyone is promoted on the 16 of the month, then seniority is base on time in service, not time in rate (If you were promoted at the same time.
If you graduated after the 16th of the current month (ie July 17th), then your promotion date will be the next month, August 16th. So Dee, yes he will have to wait until the following month, he will be frocked until that time.
A easy way to tell if a sailor went to Captain's Mast is you can quickly see that their promotion date will be something other than the 16th....

JB's mom ~ I not sure what rate you sailor is, but what alot of people fail to realize is if your Sailor is married, and is E1 thru E3, then they cannot go to an overseas location, that includes Hawaii. However, it's base on the needs of the Navy. I know this all too well because a Sailor that I was helping on my website received orders to Japan. He was a E2 with a wife and 6mo child. The Navy told him "You're going to Japan for 2 years, but your family will not". Had he had financial problems, alcohol problems, beat his wife, then he would have stayed in the United States. However, since he was an outstanding sailor, they made him go to Japan. He served about 17 months in Japan without his wife and child. Luckily or Sadly, however you want to look at it, he was discharged for a different issue. He just came home last month. Man, the Navy really screwed over this family.
Here's the rule on married couples, pay attention to para Policy 1.b:
http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/BA171374-25A1-4A56-BA05-DC1BD9...

Hey guys, I just opened a group for my nephews ship 11, div 297. We just received his letter today with his address... Come on over and see the new digs....

that is too funny !!! enjoy your time..

JB, just like everything else in the Navy, it based on the Navy's needs. The Navy can change the rules into their favor any time they want. However, if you know the rules prior to everything happening, then you can usually work it to your favor. It's all about "knowing the rules to play the game". That E3 needed a waiver to go to Hawaii.

Congrats !! wonderful news... enjoy!!!!

Hi everyone...my son is now in Pensacola..CTT. Looks like it might take a while to class up. Looks like his security clearance process started last Thursday, and continued today...does anyone have an approx. time it takes them to get their final clearance? Thanks for the great information on this site.

Hey all, we were talking about promotions over in the CTN section, and I was saying that you can actually make E7 (Chief) within a 6 year enlistment. Thought I'd post this trivia here since no other rating has made promotion this quick in recent memory. This is a really good story and really ticked off the Chief's community.
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