Cryptology ~ CTI ~ CTM ~ CTN ~ CTR ~ CTT ~ CWT Corry Station Pensacola Florida and Monterey California

Welcome!.. We are the Cryptology group! We are committed to helping the sailors and family members of "Spooks".  Spooks are what sailors call the CTI, CTN, CTT, CTR, CTM in the fleet.   Come join the gang!

And the newest rating - CWT - Cyber Warfare Technician.

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  • LindainIvorVA

    Willo ........ aw enjoy the time ... my baby actual on layover in Phoenix as im typing this.. can't believe she's moving on 2 need adventures.. Wish you & your family well... give your son a hug for me :)
  • idahojeep

    Hey Craig (or anyone else) my sons are in GL now and PIR 1/7/11. Going to Corry for CTR. How are the references for the SSBI contacted? Letter, phone, in person? Have already had to provide more references since they arrived at GL.
  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    As far as I know all the references that my son gave were contacted in person, but they may have contacted people that did not let me know. I just heard from the neighbors and friends in our area.
  • idahojeep

    Thank you momoffour. I think I should let the references know how they will be contacted. That way they are not surprised.
  • Craig

    idaho - They do them in person. Just like me, I always put my friend in Florida as a reference (I live in Denver). They will forward this info to the investigators in that area and they will go to their house to chat. A top-secret is done every 5 years, so my friend always laughs when the investigator comes to his house every 5 years.... He says it make him feel old....
  • LindainIvorVA

    Thank you for our forefathers ! God Bless all our Military ...
    Amen & We Shall Not Forget !
  • Wendi, CTR mom

    My daughter graduates 12/17 and we haven't been contacted and no one has mentioned being contacted

  • LindainIvorVA

    Wendi.. from boot or CT school ?

  • Wendi, CTR mom

    boot. Then comes home for Christmas. Has to report to school 12/28

  • Craig

    Wendi, is that a choice of hers to go to CT school on 12/28?  The reason I ask is the school house is closed till 1/3.  Maybe she wants to get there early, but there won't be many there, it's only a skeleton crew to keep things going for fire and security checks...

  • LindainIvorVA

    wendi,  my daughters people weren't contacted until she arrived at Cory and then took few months after that.  

     

  • LindainIvorVA

    Craig !!!! sent you msg but you didn't respond. how's your nephew ?????

  • Craig

    Hey Linda - I read that, and just forgot to respond.  My deppers website has alot of deppers on it right now, and they are asking soooo many questions.  Luckily, some of the deppers I helped a couple years ago, who are active duty E4 and E5's,  are fielding the question, which has more of an impact on the new deppers joining.  I love these sailors coming back to help the newbies...

     

    My nephew actually comes home Friday.  Since I'm a electronics guy, he is telling me the basic electronics stuff he is learning in school.   He says he "know it all" on certain sections, which I find so extremely funny, since no one "knows it all" at his point in school.  Just to put him in his place, I made a simple electronics circuit that will make him go crazy.  I work with many engineers that have their Masters and Docorates, only one of them was able to figure it out, and it took him 2 hours.  I learned this circuit when I was going through "A" school, and our instruction told us, "Work alone, and once you figure it out, you have the day off".  I think the soonest anyone got it correct was 7 hours into the class.  (the class was 8 hours, so the guy only got 1 hour of liberty).  It really put us in our places, and made us learn alot about not to have a big heads. 

    Sometimes we need to teach the newbies and to set the bar, so they will understand that they're not as smart as they think they are.  ~ha 

  • Wendi, CTR mom

    Craig, The 12/17 group that chooses to take leave have to report at I think 8:00 in 12/28. The group that graduates on 12/22 have until 1/3 I believe. They get 10 days but end up going in the hole 5 days. 

  • Craig

    Wendi - That makes sense.  They are probably trying to prevent them from going "in the hole".  It is going to be extremely boring in Pensacola, since everyone will be gone.  But at least you have her for xmas. 

    Just curious, what flavor of CT is she?  CTT? CTR? CTN? CTM?

  • Wendi, CTR mom

    She is CTR

    I am hoping that she is still there when I have my spring break (I am a teacher). Not that I want her to be gone longer, I want an excuse to go to Florida.

  • LindainIvorVA

    Craig... what a guy !   how great to have them come back and help the newbies.

    Wish your nephew much success... (does he have a choice ?)   HA HA ...

    you going back to the old days now with the drawing of the ckts.. wow...:)

  • Craig

    TEST YOUR SAILOR PUZZLE

    (just for fun)

     

    Linda (and whoever has sailor that works with electronics)

    Here is an electronics problem, that is so basic because it is just a simple electronics circuit, but yet, it is extremely hard to figure out.   I learned it when I was in "A" school 33 years ago.  I think if you give this puzzle to them, they will have the whole shop trying to figure it out and it will cause alot of conversation about electonics theory. 

    So, since your sailors are probably just chillin' while waiting for holiday routine to start, give them this to figure out. 

     Ask them "Do you know how to figure out simple resistor series and parallel circuits?"  Beleive me, they will all say something like "Yea, that is so simple..."

    Then tell them to figure this:

    The givens - To make it simple, All resistors are 100 ohm (even though in my picture they 52 ohms).  ie there is no tricks

    Question 1:  What is the total ohmage when you measure between the two orange peices.

    Question 2:  You replace this resistor (in second picture shown by the arrow), with a 50 ohm resistor,  What is the total ohmage when you measure between the two orange peices

     

  • LindainIvorVA

    craig.. too funny .. omg i can't even remember how to figure this out.  now im embarrassed. :(    ill pass along

  • Craig

    Linda - Yea it doesn't make any sense to most people.  It's only for electronic type of sailors.   But beleive me, they will sit for hours trying to prove their theory to one another.  God know why, but it always happens.  It sure makes the day go by.

  • LindainIvorVA

    lol ... i show to my hubby the ETC .. (lord, he'll laugh at me)
  • Craig

    Frankly, I would be impressed if he could draw a schematic on a piece of paper.  Heck even that is hard.

    If he does try, tell me how many sheets of paper it took...~ha

  • Karla~ (S 12 D 042 - PIR 1/14)

    So, I posted this in the CTI group but maybe it's appropriate here. I have a question for any of you with sailors already at the DLI. We know our son flies out of Chicago on Sat after PIR for Monterey. And I'm thinking he probably won't find out what time his flight is until right before he leaves. We would like to time our flight home to be just after he leaves if possible. So I'm wondering what everyone's experience was and if there is any commonality that might give us a clue!? Chartered or Commercial? What airline? Time of day? Did they fly from O'Hare? Into Monterey or San Francisco? Thanks for any help

  • Craig

    Karla, what I've seen in the past, is the CTI usually fly United, and they have a stop over in Denver.  I've had 3 CTI all do this, but who knows, maybe they are doing stuff differently now....

  • Karla~ (S 12 D 042 - PIR 1/14)

    Thanks, Craig. Do you remember if the times were similar or all different?

  • Karla~ (S 12 D 042 - PIR 1/14)

    @clockard - Haha - I think you're right about that not knowing thing. I'll probably just have to book a flight using "best guess" technology! But I thought maybe there would be some sort of common thread for the Monterey sailors!

  • Craig

    Karla - If it were my kid, I would contact the Sato ticket office at Great Lakes.  They might not give you information about your sailors, but if you were to say "Is there a certain flight number that sailors needing to go to Morterey California normally are reserved for?"  then "My son is a CTI and will be going to Morterey California sometime around Jan 14th or so.... "

    Look for Sato under "airline reservation" here:

    http://www.mwrgl.com/gen_info/General_Base_Numbers.htm

     

    Just a thought....

  • Karla~ (S 12 D 042 - PIR 1/14)

    That's great advice, Craig! I'll try it and let you know!

  • Wendi, CTR mom

    My daughter got settled into her room last night. Has not met her room mate yet. The set up seems nice.
  • Jim C

    Wendi, is you daughter at NAS or Corry?
  • Wendi, CTR mom

    Corry
  • Jim C

    Ok, my daughter is on leave and got a text saying she got a new room mate yesterday. But she's stationed at NAS right now. just thought it might be a heck of a coincedence.
  • cryptologymomma

    Hi everyone, My name is Michelle.  My son is new to the Navy and will be studying cryptology.  I'm curious he has basically told me that depending on the nature of things that I might not be able to know anything about when he deploys?
  • Craig

    Michelle - Being a crypto dude, he really can't tell you much.  Its part of our jobs.  Everything that happens at work, stays at work.   It's funny because I've married for 26 years, and my wife still really doesn't know what I do, except that I work with electronics.  This is part of our business.

     

    As far as deployments, very rare will they have a classified deployment, meaning he can't even tell you when he leaves.  I seen only 1 in 33 years.  Sailors need to work rent payments. car payments, electric payments, so they have to tell people when they deploy.  I bet he's confusing "when he deploys" with "what he does when he deploys".

     

    Just curious, what flavor of CT is he?  CTI, CTT, CTR, CTN, CTN...?

  • Craig

    Thanks Susie Q.... 

    Yes, both Susie and I were yaking, and I would like to bring more Crypto families to this section. 

     

    The reason? Although the large Pensacola group has alot of information about Pensacola in general, they truly don't have the information about Corry Station where most of the CT's are located.   So, to get the correct information out there to help the Sailors and their families, I would to help.

     

    Just to give you a background on myself, I am a retired CTM, my son is an active duty CTN, and my nephew is a active duty CTT wantabee (he's still in school and not rated yet).  I own two Navy forum websites myself, NavyDEP.com and NavyFamilies.com, which I've been doing for years. 

     

    So I hope you enjoy some of the new stuff. And although Susie calls it a "little face life", I consider it a "boob job".  I want to make this thread bigger, with alot of people looking.... ~ha.....

  • Wendi, CTR mom

    When does he graduate? My daughter is in Pensacola waiting for her class to fill up. It will be Feb or maybe even March before she gets to start school. Maybe he will be there by then.
  • LindainIvorVA

    Craig.........lord have mercy you are a HOOT !!!!!!!!  too funny you SPOOK ! lol
  • Craig

    Wow...

    A must see video!!!  The ending is dead on perfect!

    It's not enjoyable, It's RIVETING! 

     

  • momoffour(Ship 11 div 119)

    What a great video!!
  • himmiemom

    Hello everyone!! My SR is still in bc and his PIR is 2/11/11.  He just found out today that he got CTN.  He will be leaving for Pensacola 2/15/11.  Any information would be great.
  • himmiemom

    clockard....Thanks so much.  Just want any kind of helpful information.  My SR just found out 1/11 that he got this job.
  • Craig

    himmie - Welcome, we love CT's here.  Between here, and the CTN section, you will find the info you need. 

    Just curious, it sound like he went to boot camp with out a rating, and then he got CTN while in bootcamp?  Is that correct?

  • Jim C

    Pensacola is kind of a generic location. Most cryptos will go straight to Corry. Some one else will have to fill you in on Corry. Some crypto rates have to take ATT class at Pensacola NAS. My daughter got to NAS in early November, they told her she wouldn't class up for ATT until May. An officer woke her up at 0400 last Moday and told her class starts in an hour and her butt better be in a seat.

    So, at least at NAS theres a chance of classing up faster than what the sailors are told when they arrive.

  • himmiemom

    Craig...My son had a job when he got into boot camp.  He was going to be doing Advanced Electronics.  He is color blind and his recruiters were well aware of this but told him not to say anything to them at MEPS.  He didn't and took the color eye test and passed it each time. He was in DEP for almost a year and left 12/8/10 for GL.  When he got to GL they tested him again for his job and he failed those tests.  He had the job pulled from him.  He had very high ASVAB s scores so they gave him a list of 20 jobs and told him to come back on 1/10 to pick one.  He originally was going to pick HM but that was not available that day.  He was told to come back on 1/11 and he was told the CNT was open and he was qualified.  So here we are.  He is very excited and happy to be doing a job that is challenging.  He is a very smart kid and street smart also.
  • himmiemom

    frazcom....my son's PIR is 2/11 also.  He is in ship 02 div 912.

     

  • Jim C

    frazcom, I think if he's going to be there 3.5 months he will go straight to Corry (Craig will have a better answer).They will get an estimate of the class up time when they arrive  But it's only an estimate in most cases. The date can be pushed up or back depending on several things.

    One thing that does work in all the cryptos favor right now is, the spooks and nukes are undermanned right now. I would think there would be a fairly hard push to get them out into the fleet.

  • Craig

    fraazcom - Since your son is a CTR he will go straight to Corry.  NAS is for CTT under the 6 year program and the CTM's.  NAS teaches them basic electronics to do their ELINT (Electronic Intelligence) job.  The CTT 4 years program and CTR do COMINT (Communication Intelligence) and they don't need the electronics background, thus they don't need to go to NAS.  From my own experience, the longer your in school or waiting to class up is better.  This means you get more shore duty instead of being on a ship.  One of the best times when I was in was holding company.  It's a no brainer job and you just kick back and take it easy. 

     

    Himmie - Thank God he got CTN.  CTN to me is the best job in the Navy. Alot of my friends were on the develop team that made the CTN rating.  That's why I had my son go into that rating.   All the CT's make a fortune when they get out, but CTN's make a bit more.  The company I work for starts the CTT and CTR at $80K, then it goes up from there.  CTN is an extremely hard school.  So he needs to stay focused.  In the fleet he will just love his job.  CTN's really do some cool stuff.

    Just for fun, you should send this picture to your son and say you were just checking.  If he's got a sense of humor he will laugh....

  • himmiemom

    Craig..... when I am able finally able to send him emails I will have to send that to him.  He will get a laugh out of it.  He has a great sense of humor.    We didn't know he was color blind till 2nd grade.  He was the only kid I knew that didn't peel the labels off the crayons.  Well, he was reading the labels so he would get the correct colors. 

     

    Clockard...That is actually a good group to start.  I have talked to several other moms on N4M with color blind sailors.  He has problems only with certain colors but that has never stopped him from doing anything.  You would never know he was color blind unless he told you so. 

  • Craig

    clockard - Yea, that's the point, he will ask his friends what it says, and they will look at him and just start ROFL....  Heck, I would!..... 

    Actually Himmie - If he holds that picture face in about 5 inches from his stomach, and looks down, he will see what it says.  The colors don't play a part in it then, because he will see the outlines of the characters.  Have him try it....better yet, don't because I want him to get a laugh from his friends 1st....~ha...

  • LindainIvorVA

    Craig... did you get alot of spankings as a child ??? LMAO !!!!!!!!!  u soooo funny