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idahojeep

Angie - Phase 1 at Corry is 28 days. My sons are in Phase 2 and just about to go to Phase 3 in a couple of weeks.

Mar 30, 2011
Craig

Angie - Here is the offical rules for phase liberty. Read starting at page 20. This applies to both Corry and NATTC...

Phase_Liberty_for_NATTC_and_Corry_cnic_047872_Craigs_copy.pdf

Mar 30, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

Thanks Idahojeep. Phase I at Corry is 28 days

@navymom2 I guess he got to go off base because he is on the NAS side

Mar 31, 2011
navymom3

@ Angie- That could be cause he is still on the NAS side. He did however volunteer for a job and is now working at the USO instead of cleaning all day waiting to class up. Says he loves it. They are letting him bake cookies, muffins and cook other things. As well as working the desk and checking people in. At home he liked to bake and experiment with different breads. So he is doing great.

Mar 31, 2011
himmiemom

Been awhile. Not much new going on over at Corry with my son. In his second week of CTN class and loving it. Says it is hard but challenging. Has gotten a study group together that meets on Sundays. Has had 1 test and 2 quizzes already and did well on all. There are a total of 100 military going for CTN and there are 20 per class.

He FINALLY will get Phase 2 this weekend. Delayed two weeks due to him not getting paperwork in and than due to the papers needing a signature. He is looking forward to seeing a little bit of Pensacola outside of Corry!

The classes run from 7am-4pm and are changing next week to 7am-2pm. Something about the classes being too long. He doesn't like getting up at 4am to do PT three days a week during the week than going to school at 7am, but he knows it is temporarily.

Mar 31, 2011
mumziepooh

Battlestations over - I have a SAILOR! Correy Station next! He said his order say he will class up 7 days after he arrives - do they all say that?

Apr 1, 2011
Deborah (CTT son)

Craig - I saw that Suzy was inquiring about online ATT courses for DEPPERS (my son is also leaving in July for boot camp as CTT). I printed the info you posted and will be giving it to my son to show to his recruiter too. However, in reading through other N4M discussions I came across this website and was wondering if it is something that is useful. Would love to hear what you think and if it is even something that I should have my son take a look at.

http://jacquesricher.com/NEETS/

Apr 1, 2011
idahojeep

Congrats Mumzie!!!!!

Apr 1, 2011
Craig

deboraho - You son needs to do the ATT course 1st. That is what they are pushing. However, the link to the NEETS modules is outstanding. Most of those are on the CTT bib (bibliography), which means they will test on some of those manuals during the advancement test.

Being a CTM, we live and die on those dang NEETS manuals. They were kind-of our bible. When I ran my shop I was kind of a hard @ss to my guys because I wanted them all to advance and be promoted. One thing that I made them do is highlight the important items in all the NEETS manuals so you just have one quick sheet to study vice entire chapters. Luckily I saved all of that stuff and have actually posted it on a couple websites to help other sailors.

However, for now, you son needs to bring those sheets to his recruiter and get a login to NKO. The Navy is really pushing for them to get it done....

Apr 2, 2011
navymom3

Craig my son is CTM as we didn't know anything about him being able to take the ATT course online before he went in. If they are waiting to class up for ATT (as he has finished bootcamp) Can he take that course online still? Or does he just have to wait? A CTM he spoke to a few days ago said it took him 6 months to class up. My son was already thinking of taking some online courses in his free time now.

Apr 2, 2011
glassdog

Has anyone heard how JimC's daughter is doing?

Apr 2, 2011
Jim C

Clockard, glassdog thanks for checking. She was scheduled for surgery next Tuesday. She didn;t make it that long, the stones shifted and started effecting other organs so they rushed her in for amergency surgery yesterday. She came through it fine and is already feeling much better.Now it looks like she'll even be able to class up on time. When her CO found out how long this had been going on and some of the treatment problems she had he was none to happy with some of lower officers and the medical staff.

Thank you all for the prayers and well wishes.

Apr 2, 2011
glassdog

I am so glad she is doing well!

Hopefully her CO will make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else.

Will keep her in my thoughts and prayers.

Apr 2, 2011
mumziepooh

Jim - I have been praying for her and I am so glad she has finally had this taken care of - frustrating that it took the CO so long to find out how long she had been suffering. Still, glad she feels better now!

Apr 2, 2011
Craig

JImC - That is awesome. I am glad she is getting the treatment she needs. She will be out of commision for just a little bit, but she will feel so much better once she is fixed. Tuesday is coming quick, prayer to your daughter to get well quick.... Prayers to you for handling this so well....

Apr 2, 2011
Craig

Navymom3 - Right now, I would have him wait and do that couse with his friends and act in a unified and cohesive team. Don't have him do in now. I know these newly minted sailors want to get out to the fleet/shore duty quickly. However, what is the rush? Your son is the one that needs to do the NEETS modules that were posted on this thread 2 days ago. He will have to know that stuff for advancement.

To motovate him to do them, I will make this challenge for him. If he summarizes each chapter, and send it to you and then you send them to me, then I will send the summerized chapters that I made my shop do. This way I know he's not just kicking back and having me hand him stuff on a silver platter. I can easily tell if he did it or not. One thing for sure, he will use those summerized sheets all the way to E7, guaranteed....

Apr 2, 2011
mumziepooh

Craig - should any CT rate do the NEETS mods?

Apr 3, 2011
navymom3

Thanks Craig I sent it to him. He should be getting his computer this week. Might be kind of hard to read on the IPhone. They told him he could be there as long as 18 months. Which is fine with me as we only live 5 hrs away. But he does have to get a chit to come visit us as we are more that 200 miles away.

Apr 3, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

WooHoo Just heard from my son and he got his TS clearance cleared today! Now just have to wait to class up...but phew! glad that hurdle is done for now!

Apr 4, 2011
Craig

mumzie - Let me check the various CT rating BIBS to see what NEETS modules are required for which CT ratings...

navymom3 - I need to check about the ATT course. Since I have an NKO account because I'm retired, I can see more stuff than most. I need to make a fake user account just to see what a normal depper can see. So I will get back to you once I know what the heck I'm doing...

Apr 4, 2011
cinder

Congrats Angie hope to hear the same from my son soon.

Apr 4, 2011
Craig

Do you guys remember this past week we were talking about the Navy "NEETS" manuals that are needed for advancement, and how I said they are important? Well go up above and see what I posted.

Apr 5, 2011
Craig

Kathie - You lost me there... You switch duty stations every 2 to 3 years when you get new orders. Are you saying once you get to a new duty station, can you transfer if you don't like it?

Yes, every duty station has it's good and the bad. Frankly, I've never had a bad duty station, all of mine were awesome. What sailors need to realize is that when they get a crappy boss, that boss is usually gone within 1 1/2 years, since they also rotate out with new orders every 2 to 3 years. So everything is constantly changing. Unlike the civilain world which you got to put up with the crappy boss forever...

Apr 5, 2011
Craig

Hey all,

I want to see if you civilains can get into different parts of the Navy Knowledge Online (NKO) area as a guest. I would like to post links to advancement items and other things that would make it easy for you to understand some of the things I'm talking about.

The problem is, I can't even try to log in as a guest on NKO because I already have an account since I'm retired, and their computers knows my IP address and MAC address so I can't even try to enter as a guest because it knows that I'm not...

So those that want to try...

1. Go to: http://wwwa.nko.navy.mil/

2. At the bottom, click "Register as a new guest"

3. Then fill out the form... (Note you will need to create a 14 or more character password)

3. Once your logged in, I want you to try this link. It the place that shows all the Bibs for all the ratings. Remember a Bib is what the sailors need to study for the test. It shows exactly which manuals and chapters they need to review...

https://wwwa.nko.navy.mil/portal/careermanagement/navyadvancementce...)

Apr 5, 2011
cinder

Craig, there is something wrong with the link.

Apr 5, 2011
Jim C

Does anyone know if the navy has any programs or discounts for shipping a vehicle to Corry?

Apr 5, 2011
Craig

cinder - The NKO link, or the other link once you are logged in?

Jim C - I don't know of any. My daughter and I will actually be driving my nephews car down to him this Sunday. What a miserable drive it is. I did it 3 years ago too, when my son wanted his car. Got 2 tickets for speeding while driving to Corry...

Apr 6, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

Craig The link is wrong you typed wwwa and you meant www. However I tried to register as a guest and it asks for a sponsor's nickname - which I dont know and it wouldn't let me in

Apr 6, 2011
Jim C

Thanks Craig, I thought I read somewhere that if a sailor was going to be at a duty station a certain length of time the navy would cover certain expenses. I guess car hauling isn't one. That means a 3 day 2000 mile drive plus the flight back. Looks like we might have to re-think this idea.

Apr 6, 2011
Craig

Sorry guys, that was a typo... It should be just like Dee says below. As far as the sponsor's nickname, put anything. It really doesn't matter what the name is, because I think it will use that word in case you lose your password.

Apr 6, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

Craig I did put something in the sponsor field....I put in rocafu and it didnt like it

Apr 6, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

actually says You have specified an invalid sponsor login name. Please verify the sponsor's login name and ability to sponsor.

Apr 6, 2011
Craig

Jim C,

I was just guessing what your situation was. That's why I usually always put offical weblinks in my post, because no one can't argue with the rules.

Basically, the Navy will not pay to move a car from one place to another within the U.S., however, there are rare exceptions...

"Members may be authorized to have their vehicles shipped in the continental United States if they are assigned to a ship that is changing home ports, have insufficient travel time to drive from the old to the new duty station (documented in writing by their commanding officer), or have a medical condition that is certified in writing by a doctor. A dependent of a deceased member may be authorized to have a vehicle shipped as well. Members believing they meet any of these conditions should check with a counselor. Otherwise, members should plan on moving their own vehicles within the continental United States"

Read starting on page 361, para 5405, and para 5415

http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/Docs/perdiem/JFTR(Ch1-10).pdf

http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/site/faqpovconus.cfm

also

http://sddcbiz.sddc.army.mil/sddc/Content/Pub/47104//sddc%20ppp%20f...

also

Look at "First Duty Station Travel Entitlements" at this link.... (this is old, but still good info)
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/payandbenefits/l/aa092302h.htm

This link is about POV travel...
http://www.belvoir.army.mil/jppsowa/files/Outbound/ShippingPOV.pdf

See, I told you I like links....~ha (Clockard, I know you'll be along to verify this ~ha)

https://www.whereismypov.com/

Apr 6, 2011
Craig

I'm going over to my sisters house tonight... I will try to create a guest account from there. Man, if you guys can get into NKO, just for the basic stuff, it would be awesome...

Apr 6, 2011
Angie (Dan's Mom)

on the main screen it say that thie last update is 8 hours ago however on here it says that the last update was a day ago.....

Apr 8, 2011
cinder

That happens when someone comments on one of the discussions.

Apr 8, 2011
CMom

My SR is still in bc - PIR 4/29 - CTN - leaving for Pensacola Saturday 4/30

Does anyone know what airline he will likely be on? Just trying to figure what time his flight will be. All he knows is they will drop him at the airport about 2 or 3 am.

He didn't even know which airport. Any info is greatly appreciated!!

I also wanted to mention how much I love this group! I cant wait until my SR graduates - then I will spend more time here I'm sure! In fact I think this group will grow a lot after 4/29 as my SR said there are a lot of Intel going to Pensacola on 4/30.

Apr 9, 2011
navymom3

Cmom- It is hard to tell when they will fly out until they get there ticket. Mine was suppose to fly out sat morning but once he got his ticket he didn't fly until sunday evening. They could fly out of either airport also. But they all go to the airport at the same time 2-3am on the day they fly out.

Sorry I can't say for sure.

Apr 9, 2011
cinder

If you want to give them phone, laptop, suitcase, etc. be there by 3:30 to hand it off so they can check in their luggage. Like everyone says some flew out at 6:30 others later in the day. We were first told he would leave Sat. morning but ended up leaving Sunday. When it comes to the military you never know until it happens. We were lucky that he flew out of Midway same as us. And yes they can bring a cilvilian suitcase.

Apr 9, 2011
CMom

Thanks for the info navymom and cinder - I sort of figured we wouldn't know until PIR but figured it was worth asking. I sure hope it is sometime Sunday so we have Sat with him! We are staying at the Navy Lodge and have it booked thru Sun just in case!!

cinder; I have heard they can only take a black backpack with no logo, or color on it - but you say they can have a civilian suitcase? I am tempted to only bring a few things so it gives me a excuse to visit him in FL sooner!! I know the one thing he wants more than anything is his guitar and I know it will be awhile before he will be allowed to have that. (I also don't want him to spend more time with it than his studies!! LOL)

Apr 9, 2011
cinder

They can check in civilian suitcase with no problem the black back is what they can carry around. My son gave me a list of things he wanted like underwear, socks, pj's, book, some civilian clothes, etc. Lot's of people took suitcases but you can only do this if you get to the ariport before they check in all of their stuff. They can check it in with their navy bags.

Apr 9, 2011
navymom3

Cmom- My son also plays guitar but does not have his yet. We plan on taking it to him the first week in May. Wanted to have him get used to not hybernating in his room and make friends. My son PIR on 3-18. Have yours look him up after he gets there. He is currently working in the USO on NAS base until he classes up. His name is James. They have computers, tv's and video games there for the sailors to use. Oh ya and snacks all for free.

Apr 9, 2011
cinder

Know what you mean Navymom3 my son PIR 3/18, seems to be making friends and a couple of girls took him shopping last week. LOL He seems to have really come out of his shell and isn't hybernating LOL. What div was your son mine is also at NAS. My son is Nick.

Apr 9, 2011
navymom3

cinder mine was in div 108. He got his computer the other day so I hope he continues to still do things. I think his roommate will keep him going out. They went to the mall last night and he said he got some more jeans. Working at the uso he has to wear civilian clothes. And he had none so he had to buy some. I would have sent some but he lost 20 lbs at BC and none of them fit anymore. I know he is having fun in Pcola.

Apr 9, 2011
cinder

My son was div 105 and he lost 30 lbs. They have him doing watch stations. Sounds like your son got a fun job.

Apr 9, 2011
navymom3

Him and his room mate did the volunteer job choice. My son does love working at the USO. He gets to bake everyday which he missed. He likes to experiment with bread but says cookies, brownies and muffins are better than nothing. He said he even got to go shopping with the lady in charge. His roommate got working in the museum. He started out helping repaint some of the planes on display. I thought that would be fun.

Apr 9, 2011
cinder

My son got on cleaning detail for the CO's office. What is your sons rate mine is a CTT

Apr 9, 2011
Craig

Woo-hoo...I'm leaving for Pensacola in 12 hours... I will be there till Thursday. Got to bring down my nephew's car.... Now his fun begins....

Apr 9, 2011
navymom3

Have fun Craig. Give all our boys and girls a hug. My SR will be working in the USO on NAS base.

Apr 9, 2011
CMom

Navymom3: I will definitely tell my son to look up yours - Thanks for the info!

Any other advise I can pass along to my son about going to Pensacola is greatly appreciated! I was just wondering - is it better to get a volunteer job while in holding or do they have a choice? Also, any advise about going to PIR? I cant wait to go - and I cant wait for my son to finally get to FL. He too is ready to be done with BC. Has anyone heard if there are a lot of CTN's waiting to class up? Just curious how long he may be in holding before starting school. I still haven't heard of any of his references being contacted for security clearance so figure they are either really backed up or not in a hurry to do CTN's knowing they will be awhile before starting school. Again Thanks for any advise!

MOBILE EASY CRAIG!!

Apr 10, 2011