Cryptology ~ CTI ~ CTM ~ CTN ~ CTR ~ CTT ~ CWT Corry Station Pensacola Florida and Monterey California

Ok thanks, When my other son PIR'd  3.5 years ago he left immediately  we followed the bus to the airport. Then I heard they did away with that and everyone left the next day. Now my youngest who's in BC told me he'll be a" Grad N Go just like my brother" see my confusion .When I spoke with him this morning he said "everyone will be gone by 3am"  His PIR is July 1st big deal at RTC this year so I was sorta hoping maybe they'd have the weekend or at least maybe a day since it is a holiday.  You all do make it sound like we may have a few hours at least.  Better than a few years ago. Is Midway still the airport of choice for PCola?

CTmom- we drove so we would be able to stay if he really didn't fly on saturday. So not sure if your driving or not. And we got lucky and stayed until sunday when he flew out. And he did fly out of Midway. Now when my older son was there he didn't leave until monday.  But that was 5 yrs ago.

CTmom - same as Navymom - son left Great Lakes by 5am and we met him at Midway about 7am.  He flew out at 1pm.  We had a great time in the airport and got to hear all sorts of stories!

My son finally clased up on Monday for ATT school. Yeah! 

Clockard Hi, we've finally made it this far. very sure about the date  RTC has been posting about it for weeks.  It's the 100th anniversary of GL a huge celebration. Graduation isn't even at the normal venue this time. It's across the street I'm told but that's it.  Hope they give directions to the new place.

Thanks all for the time info.  sounds like he really doesn't leave.. immediately like his brother did.  We shall see.  There's a good possibility that both my boys may be at Corry the same time. Would that be something.  One just starting out and the other...well I don't really know why he's going back.  Time will tell, he's deployed right now so not much communication.

Good Morning, ladies!  I am new to this group.  My son A, PIR'd in December and was set to go to A school for ATi.  Once he started A school, he struggled quite a bit in that field, so luckily they allowed him to re-class.  After he was given a list of over 40 rates to choose from, he decided on CTT.  He was moved from NAS Pensacola to Corry station about two weeks ago.  The transition has been a little tough for him, since he was Phase III when he was at NAS and was put back to Phase I due to the move to another base.  He is also holding now until the security clearance is complete, so he's getting antsy about moving on with his training.  I have been reading all I can about CTT, (which isn't very much, lol) and look forward to chatting with you all on here.

Betsy - Welcome to the group.  That is great that he got reclassed.  CTT is an awesome rating.  Will he be a 4 year or 6 year CTT? 

You may want to look at these two links:

http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/forum/topics/what-the-d...

and

http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/forum/topics/ct-info-ev...

Welcome BetsyProudmomofSailor!!!!  My son is also at Corry and has been there since 2/15.  He will graduate from CTN school the end of August.  If I remember correctly they hit a new Phase every 28 days at Corry.  I may be wrong, but Corry is less strict than NAS according to my son who has friends over at NAS and they come to visit him at Corry on weekends.

WOW, Thanks so much for sharing about your trip, it sound like such a great and moving time! I have never been to DC so wish to go sometime while my son is at Ft Meade. My husband was in the Airforce band (yes it was his real and only job lol) (I was asked everywhere on base what his real job was lol) and I still would tear up when they played certain songs!  Enjoy the best part of your trip, seeing your sailor!!

It's usually 3 years (like 90%).  However, they do have duty stations that are 12 months (Diego Garcia for example) and some that are 2 years (for example COMSIXTHFLT). 

Since I love posting the offical links, and since people can see the offical rule for themselves, here it is:

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/messages/Documents/...

Craig- My son just got his start date for his CTM class. He asked me to ask the "CTM guy" LOL if there is a way to get in the alpha class instead of the Bravo class. He starts his CTM class July 9th on my birthday.

Two CTs as of today!!!

 

Congratulations idahojeep! Wonderful!  So many have discussed the length of classes here.  Let me tell all of you, and as many of you know...nothing is set in stone with the Navy! When my son graduated PIR 7/2010 he was a GNG to Pensacola. Landed at NAS on 7/24 (Saturday). Can't remember when he got into his ATT class but moved over to Corry early October 2010 for 6-year CTT.  Classed up for CTT A school lst week of December.  I believe he finished late January or early February (it's so much a blur, sorry)! He started C school end of March.  He will graduate the week of July 6. That is 4 months. From what he was told, the course is usually 6 months, but they pushed it into 4.  Then there are 2 more classes - he said he has to take a 5 week class (something about "ship procedure"s I think he said) which should begin between July 18th and 25th. Then there is one more 5 day class.  The reason I am dragging on here is he was initially told he would probably be in Pensacola until 7/2012, then it was 1/2012.  With this information, he and his fiance booked a facility for their wedding December 17 in Southern California...however, now it looks like he will have his orders in the next few weeks and might be able to come home between mid Oct. and early November before going to his base! In other words....the Navy owns our sailors and things change all the time! When it happens, it will happen!  The wedding date is now due to change once he gets orders...we know it will all work out, but I've learned to not really believe anything until our sailor sees it in writing.

Thanks for the info Rorysmom- I know it will be a while before my son is done. Luckily he doesn't have a GF to worry about at home. He said there would be plenty of time later for that. He was told to expect at least 18 months which is fine. He has been keeping busy when he didn't have class. He started the Yeoman class before his ATT class started. Finished the Yeoman class while doing the ATT class. He is still in the ATT class doing good. Since he is a Yeoman he is coming home tomorrow for the weekend with his room mate. We only live 5-6 hrs away so they are driving. Looking forward to a visit. I have 2 son's in the Navy so I have become a patient mom.

 

Craig, thank you for the links.  My son is 4 years, since that was the the length of his original contract, with 4 years active reserves after that. 

himmiemom, That is funny that his NAS friends said that, because my son was kinda bummed when he first arrived at Corry because he had to go back to Phase II (even though he was already Phase III at NAS)  He said that they take longer to get to Phase III at Corry than it did at NAS.  He will be Phase III again tomorrow, thank goodness, because I'm planning another road trip to Pensacola for July 4th weekend.  My son did say that there was a lot more to do at NAS though.  He is now asking for us to drive down his car when we go.  

Angie, wow what an awesome trip.  I have a group of friends from the Maryland Moms group on here and we are planning a lunch together in July. You are so right about meeting other moms in person, it really does help.   

I could also meet up in DC, as it's just about 45 minutes for me to get there.

Angie - That is cool that your going to Pensacola...  I will make a tread up in the discussion area for "Things to do while at Corry".  It should give you or others an idea what to do.  Hopefully others can add to it to make it a great thread for others...

navymom - I don't think I can help you with the Alpha/Bravo class stuff. The 
"CTM guy" is not that good...~ha

 

idaho - That is cool seeing the rating badge.  His new life as a CT now begins.  Does he have his orders yet?

 

rory - That is really surprising.  I thought AN/SLQ-32 school was longer than that.  Is he a AN/SLQ-32 technician?

 

Betsy - Just a typo in your post.  He will actually be "inactive" reserves  Which means he's done with his contract.  He doesn't report to anyone anymore.  Everyone (enlisted) originally does a total of 8 years in the Navy. and they all sign a contract for 8 years.  Most are either 4 years active and 4 years inactive reserves, or, 6 years active and 2 years inactive reserves.  Just wanted to clarify for the others.

Craig - My twins are both graduating as CTRs today.  They will be heading to Yokosuka to be on the Fitz and the Shiloh after being at home 21 days this summer.  One of them texted me that pic yesterday.  I wish we could be there for graduation today.

Craig, yes, sorry about the typo.  I do know that the reserves are considered part time.  Although, I don't know about other states, but where my son signed his contract, his recruiter told him that the reserves are optional and not required.   I didn't think that was right at the time, but didn't question him (I was with my son when he went to the recruiting office and heard his recruiter say this).  My son was signing on for 4 years reserves anyway, so it didn't matter to him.  I do know parents of sailors who say their sailors did not sign on for reserves, so who knows what they were told when they signed their contracts?

idaho - Japan for both, now that is cool.  I can just imagine the liberty they will have when both are inport at the same time.  What cool is if either one gets tired of duty on their ship, they can request a no-cost duty swap and each try the other ship for the other half of the duty tour.

 

Betsy - Reserves in today economy is a great thing.  It's a buffer to help them get some money rather than no money.  Yea, the education thing is good too, but combined, they work really well together.

Thanks Craig  I look forward to reading your thread about things to do at Corry Station   There seems to be one up there already but it has older posts    My son told me all about Seville Quarters and since he knows I love a piano bar that is defintiely on the list!

Angie - I had no idea they had a post up there already.  I'm going to revive that post and bring it up on top again with the info I have.  I say, why reinvent the wheel if you already have one that works....  Thanks for pointing that out....

We are going to Corry the last weekend in June - where shall we stay???  Any ideas???

navymom my son is at P'cola in CTR classes.  The Alpha/Bravo classes have been set up due the large amount of "students".  If he starts with an afternoon Bravo class part way through that Bravo class will switch to morning hours and the Alpha class to the afternoon.  They may also switch back after so many weeks.  This is what I have gotten from my sailor.  Hope it helps.

Glassdog - Thanks so much for the info. He is here with us now for the weekend and is glad to here they will probably have a chance to do both.

Craig - all I'm really sure of is the sailor is a 6-yr CTT. A school was the technician part and C school is maintenance. I don't know if the 6 month C school now being a 4 month class is due to a need for CTTs or they will all be 4 month C schools now but things have definitely changed since he arrived in Corry last October. It just seems to change on a daily basis!

clockard - Thanks for the info.  I opened the discussion to be bigger.  You know us guys, bigger is better...

Hi,I'm Catherine From New york-with twin sons(CTR) and another son 2 years younger (CTR). My twins have been CTR from 2001 after boot camp -A/C school in 2000. My youngest join 2 years later.Went from Pens.to Fort Meade. I was hoping for S.C. as their father is in N.C. not to far from them. I wish I had more to say or offer, but was told not to,but will try and help as best as I can.-Nice to meet you all.

CRAIG- that penquin*sp*/ or bird made my morning..LOL. doing a happy dance??

Hello MOMS & DAD-S. My name is Paula,been friends with Catherine since our boys became CRT's. We are both from New York.Between us there are 6 boys and 1 girl. 4 are Navy.

Welcome Catherine & Paula....  Glad you've  joined our little area of cyber space.  It's great having you two aboard.....

Thanks Craig-glad we found you. alot to remember,we might need your/anyone's help.

Wow, lots of multiple Navy family members here.  My brother was a Navy OS, my daughter's boyfriend is currently in Hawaii on a Navy sub, and my youngest son is at Corry awaiting A school.    :)

Catherine - I retired as a CT, and I still do the CT stuff in the civilian world.  We have soooo many CTR and CTT's at my work.  I talk Navy 24x7.  Both my son (CTN), and my nephew (CTT) are active duty.  So if you have a question, just ask.  I will probably have an answer.

 

Betsy - Now that's what I'm talking about.  A big Navy family.  Woo-hoo!

 

Still into it Craig?  did you do 20 years before you retired? I think my boys are going to stay till 20. I have a younger son,16-he might (might) do DEP. Not sure yet. He gets all wound up with Fleet Week,gets the bug in him. He's got 1 more year of High School yet.Then all 4 will be in and I will be an old lady. thanks for the offer to answer our questions,but can't really ask to much,thats whats bad.

Catherine - I was one of the lucky guys. During the 1993 through 1996 era, the government authorized the Temporary Early Retirement Authorty  (TERA) program because of overmanning.  They had too many senior sailors, and no one could ever advance because everything was road blocked.  They made only 1 Chief per year, which sucks when you have 320 going up for it.  The guy that got it was the one that looked perfect in uniform and was poster image.  Us fleet sailors never stood a chance of making Chief.  So, I got out at 18 years, and received full retirement benefits, and started getting those retirement checks at my 18 year point...  Two months prior to getting out, the Navy said "We are short on senior people" because everyone got out.  Luckily, I was already in the pipeline and all paperwork was already done, so it didn't affect me.  Retirement at 36yo is awesome!  I was hired before I even got out, so I was set!

 

Per your son, is he going into 12th grade? When does he turn 17?  The reason I ask is he falls into a totally different set of rules about joining than normal people, which would really benefit him.  Let me know, I and I can point you to the rules.   

CRAIG, my son turns 17 in June(4th) and have the recur. at my door almost every week. Wow-you got out at a young age, also my sons will be 38 when they reitre,also went in DEP. Let me ask you- the kids are E-6, after that is it Petty  Officer class 2 or chief?   Thanks clockard-I know what you mean about not saying anything-what you don't know can;t say-lol which is frustrating at times,I can't even ask what did you you today? I get a different subject,or the blank stare. Well Thanks all and have a Happy Memorial Day. Thanks to our TROOPS!!

Catherine - Let me look something up, because he falls right in that special window of opportunity.  I just have to find the dang instruction because most recruiter don't know about it.  Once I find it, I'll post it here.

 

You confused be with the E6 comment.  There is a rare time when a depper can actually make E6 going into bootcamp.  I've been doing this Navy forum stuff for quite a bit of time, and I've only gotten one (1) depper ever to make E5 right after boot camp (we were trying for E6 but he was missing one item). 

 

As you probably know, I run a deppers forum (NavyDEP.com), and one of my deppers made this Wallpaper for his computer so he could study while he was on my website.  I bet if you print this off, you will learn the rate (rank) structure really quick.

Deppers_Cheat_Sheet1.jpg

My son is leaving for BC on June 7th and has a contract as a CTR.  He is questioning this choice because he tells me that he wants to travel and does not want to be beind a computer all the time.  He has tried to change his contract to corpsman, but more recently is more encouraged to stay with CTR because his recruiter has told him that he will get good training that will help him later in the civilian world.  Any comments from this group regarding their experience as a CTR that I can pass on to my son before he leaves would be greatly appreciated!

MDS - What exactly was he expecting?  He has to learn something. Whether you're a Machinist Mate (MM) working in a hot fire room, or a Hospital Corpsman (HM), he still needs to learn a trade.  I truly would rather work in an spook shack that has to remain cool and has special air condtioning systems to keep the computer systems working.  While everyone else on the ship is drenched with sweat, we are sitting in our nice cool space playing Spade or Hearts. 

The grass is always greener.  I truly don't think he's talked to a CTR to get the picture.  But just tell him that he always has the option of failing CTR school and going to the fleet undesignated.  Man, that would be like 24 months of torture. But it is something that can happen. 

CTR's rarely go to ships, but they do go Direct Support (DIRSUP) quite a bit.  To me, DIRSUP is the way to go since your only on the ship temporary.  I much rather spend 100 days on a ship, rather than 3 years.  Lastly, alot of CT are taking IA duty.   In fact, my son wants to do it.  I am fine with that, since I know the spook shack is totally guarded.  Just my thoughts...

The company I work for hires 1st term CTR starting at $85K per year.  Not many ratings can say that. 

IA = Individual Augmentation

https://www.cnic.navy.mil/navycni/groups/public/@hq/@ffr/documents/...

http://www.nmcphc.med.navy.mil/downloads/stress/iasailorhandbook.pdf

The rules:

http://www1.netc.navy.mil/nstc/nstc_Directives/NSTC_Instructions/NS...

Craig, not all shacks are guarded like you think. I thought they were doing away with the IA. That was the impression I was given last year. Too many were going alone and that was not a good thing.

MDS corpsman don't travel like he thinks. I say stay with CTR. He will learn things that will be useful in the civilian world. Having a security clearance opens a lot of government jobs down the road. If you want to give me specific questions/concerns I will forward them on to my son. Rates/jobs in the intelligence field are the way to go.

CTmom - IA is alive and well.  They still need these guys out there.  It remains all volunteer for the CT ratings.

To be a declared a Level 3 SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility), they are required to have military guards around it.  We are talking Afganistan and Iraq for IA duty.   I know this stuff really well because we (the CT's) are always screwed or in Navy terms, f***ed by them.  It's is really easy to remember the instruction since it is 6/9 (pretty ironic huh?).  Now you can see how I remember stuff like this immediately. ~ha

Go to this link,

SCIF_Rules.pdf

 

When on a ship, during a security alert, they dispatch security guards to protect the facility.  This all came about with the USS Pueblo incident.  At all other times there is no guards.

On shore, depending on which SCIF level, you can have guard or not.  It depends on what type if information they are processing and where the SCIF is located. 

Before anyone ask... This is all public knowledge info... 

I'm going to check with my son on this. He ran one alone for 9 months on a combat outpost and from some of the things he said that went on I did not get the impression It was guarded.
These guys are still being allowed to go alone? That is what I thought was changing you had to be in a group (of same rate like several CT's or Navy people) It's hard to explain on here but the ...lonely...Navy guy has no "support network" over there and that's an issue.
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The places in Afganistan have sailors constantly revolving.  They have other CT's there, they are not alone.  The sailors love going there because they make a lot more money because they are considered in a war zone.  My own son wants to go.  It's not like their in the line of fire, which I am ok with. 

When I went into my sons SCIF, I met with alot of his friends.  My daughter also met with them (outside the SCIF) .  They always are using skype to talk with her.  My daughter, who is extremely pro-military, is always talking with them.  So they do have alot of outlets.   

Kathie--I know that my son was concerned about the sitting behind the desk thing also. He did realize that for his future he picked the correct rate. He was able to get an opportunity to do something in his rate which is not behind a desk so he is excited and enjoying it. I hope your sailor finds something that he enjoys!