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Thanks so much! Craig!!!!

I was tired last night too - just before I dropped off - I realized there would have to be sooo many Admirals to have them on destroyers too.  Good grief!  It gave me a chuckle.  We weren't a military family until our son decided he wanted to enlist - there's new experiences all the time.

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CTmom - I bet he got it from the CO of the ship, and not the admiral.  The admiral is just rider, he is not in command of that ship.  If he did get it presented by the Admiral, I'd be very surprised.  

I bet the CO authorized the admiral to pin him if he did.  It's just like when you reenlist, you can have anyone swear you in, however an officer must actually sign the documents.  

Here is the rule:  (you know me, I like to back up my facts with the actual rules)

§ 700.720 Administration and discipline: Staff embarked. In matters of general discipline, the staff of a commander embarked and all enlisted persons serving with the staff shall be subject to the internal regulations and routine of the ship. They shall be assigned regular stations for battle and emergencies. Enlisted persons serving with the staff shall be assigned to the ship for administration and discipline, except in the case of a staff embarked for passage only, and provided in that case that an organization exists and is authorized to act for such purposes.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2010-title32-vol5/pdf/CFR-2010-tit...

Dee - Just wanted to let you know that I haven't been blowing you off concerning the advancement thingy.  I know I'm going to get hammered by questions and I'm trying to cut them down.  I totally understand you guys don't know this stuff, but it's like a Pandora's box, when you think of what I know you guys will ask, then another one pops up.  

So.....  Just to get this out there, I'm going to post the sheet that I orginally said I was going to post.  I actually made this up because when you read the advancement manual, you need a dang doctorate degree to understand it.  It is very intense.  I wanted my son to understand it, thus why I made it up.  I'm thinking of making a section above to give you guys some FAQ on advancement stuff.  

But for now, here is the sheet.  Again, it won't make sense to you guys, but I guarantee when your sailors get to the E5 and E6 levels, they will really appreciate it.

You might want to save it....

NavyDEP.com_TIME_IN_RATE_AND_EXAM_COMPUTATION.pdf 

I know the 1st question will be:

How is my Service In Paygrade (SIPG) date computed for advancement purposes?

Your Terminal Eligibility Date (TED) is the date an advancement candidate's Service in Paygrade (SIPG) is computed for advancement purposes.  Here are the Terminal Eligibility Date (TEDs) for each advancement cycle:

ACTIVE DUTY

E4-E6 March exam:         1 July of the same year (YY0701)

E4-E6 September exam: 1 January of the next year (YY0101)

E7 January exam:           1 January of the next year (YY0101)

November E8-E9:            1 October of the next year (YY1001)

RESERVE

E4-E6 February exam:    1 July of the same year (YY0701)

E4-E6 August exam:       1 January of the next year (YY0101)

E7 February Exam:         1 January of the next year (YY0101)

November E8-E9:            1 October of the next year (YY1001)        

The second question will be:

Am I eligible to take the next advancement exam?

Prior to taking an advancement exam, you must meet all eligibility requirements for the next higher paygrade. You must have met your service in paygrade (SIPG) requirement and have the promotion recommendation of your commanding officer (CO). Check box 45 on your Evaluation Report to see your CO’s recommendation for promotion.

Check the SIPG table below to ensure you meet the SIPG requirement. The * denotes a 1-year SIPG waiver for E-6 and E-7 candidates who have been recommended by their CO for early advancement on their last EVAL. Working hard and doing your job can help you earn the EP and advance ahead of schedule.

Chapter 2 of BUPERSINST 1430.16F has specific details on eligibility requirements for advancement. Also, it's critical that your security clearance is up to date in certain ratings prior to taking the exam; many exams are invalidated due to security clearances.  Check with your division Chief Petty Officer (CPO), Command Career Counselor (CCC), or your Educational Services Officer (ESO) to see if you need to meet any additional mandatory requirements prior to taking your exam.

Service in Paygrade (SIPG) Requirements

Paygrade Service in Paygrade

E-1 to E-2 -- 9 months

E-2 to E-3 -- 9 months

E-3 to E-4 -- 6 months

E-4 to E-5 --12 months

E-5 to E-6 -- 36 months *

E-6 to E-7 -- 36 months *

E-7 to E-8 -- 36 months

E-8 to E-9 -- 36 months

Craig...so happy to hear about your son! 

Sailor received orders today - he is 6-yr. CTT.  Norfolk, VA, USS Arleigh Burke. He is very excited!

clockard - Delegate means that the head guy can have the other lower guys sign off on the award. With the JSCM, which everyone calls a "JCOM", it can only be delegated just so far down.  If you click next to the ribbon in the link I posted you can see who is authorized to be delegated to.  They just don't want everyone to approve them.   Example, the CO is the only one that can authorize liberty, however, he can delegate the authority to the XO, Dept Head, Div off, Div Chief, or LPO.   Which lightens his work load.

Per the presentation of the award,  I told my kid along time ago (like when he was 12) that anyone can get the CO to award them things (reenlistment, awards,,,ect...).  The honor is to have someone that normally never has the privileged, do it.  As you remember he was originally going to reenlist a couple months ago (but the bonus level went down), he made dang sure his chief knew what our family values were, and that he wanted him (the Chief)  reenlist him.   So guess what? The Chief presented the award.   Which is the way he wanted it. 

Just like me, I never let a CO ever reenlist me. My last time I made my friend do it, and I chose where they did it.  The last time was on a 150 foot microwave tower.  The only rule for reenlistment is an officer has to be present, and sign it off, but anyone can do the swearing in.  I had the "Bull Ensign" do mine (sign off).    

Craig:  Thank you for your service.  Thank you for being so helpful and sharing your knowledge with us. Finally, please extend my congratulations and thank your son for his service.  Bravo Zulu.

The award is for outstanding performance in his job.

Depending on your type of performance, they usually go,

"Flag letter of Commendation" (Flag LOC)  which is a write up signed by a Flag officer (anyone above a Captain 0-6).  This counts +1 point on an advancement test.

Then you have a "Navy Acheivement Medal" (NAM) which is a personal award for outstanding service which is above a LOC, where you are awarded a Medal for Outstanding service.  This counts +2 points.

Then you have a "Navy Commendation Medal" (NCM) which is a personal award for outstanding service which is above a NAM.  These aren't handed out that much.  I received only one and got it when I had about 12 years in. These count +3 points.  

Then you have a Joint Service Commendation Medal (JSCM).  These are rarely handed out.  These mean you were at a joint command (Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard), and you did an outstanding job among all the services.  You can be at a joint command, but it doesn't mean you get a JSCM instead of a NCM.  They issue NCM's too, but a JSCM is just higher than the NCM because the NCM means your rated among just the Navy, while the JSCM your rated among all the services.  Does that make sense?

Here is the points you get for personal awards for your advancement test.

From: http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/instructions/BUPERS...

(clockard, you knew I had to post that link huh?  ~ha...I just can't help it!  I have to do it....)  

congratulations to the CTT's that graduated A school last Friday- August 12th!  My son among them!! VERY PROUD of all of them.

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I suspect they call it "the Ghetto" with affection.

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Tmom- I think they all call it the Ghetto barracks because it is one of the oldest barracks. It doesn't look that bad from the outside. They are not allowed to have people in there room so we did not get to see the inside. But if he started out at NAS like my son did they do not look as nice as the ones at NAS. Our son did give us a tour of Corry this time and it isn't as nice as NAS but then it isn't as big either. But it will do since they are only there for training. I ca't believe my son only has 4 more weeks. He grads CTM A school on Sept 16th. I will be there if anyone needs pics of there sailor.

My sailor is saying that the shipboard training is difficult- harder for him than A school. Any one hear that from their sailors?

Craig he is trying for Korea but Hawaii is also on the list. We lived there for 3 years and that is where he signed up. So we are familiar with Hawaii.

Angie he is CTM. Glad that Dan is getting settled in. My son also put Ft Meade on his list for stateside but stateside is second on his list. He wants to go overseas.

Holdfast- Depends on which base and which phase they are in. Usually liberty is called after class is over each day. If phase 1 they still have to muster every so many hours and cannot leave base. Phase 2 they can leave base but have to check out with a liberty buddy. And they have to muster by a certain time every night. Phase 3 they no longer have to muster on the weekend so they can check out at liberty call on friday and not come back until sunday night late.

At Nas anytime they leave the base they have to check out and check back in even in phase 3. At Corry once class is over they are free for the weekend unless they have duty. Corry is more relaxed than NAS.

Which base is your sailor at?

Holdfast - To see the phases (and a whole bunch of other stuff), go to the "Pages" area just below the various members pictures (ON THIS THREAD), and click on "Phase liberty for NAS and Corry".  

NAS and Corry do the same thing, so that book applies for Corry too (or at least it did)....

Holdfast she is on my friends list. You should be able to friend her from there.

A brown bagger is where they live off base but go to school. He will have to put in for it after he gets to Nas. Then there is no guarantee and they say it takes a while to get approved. What is his rate or job? It also depends on how long his school is.