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cinder - You couldn't sign in before because I had a spammer that I was trying to catch.  I caught him, and now have opened the site to new users again....(which was a while ago)....

You shouldn't have any trouble getting in now, but I just looked, you there isn't an account for "cinder".....

 

Pamela - I'm not sure what state you sailor joined in, but if it was in a state that you have to pay taxes, then if he was smart he'd change his "State of Residence".  He'll save a boatload of money on not paying tax. 

You might want to read this thread...

http://www.navyformoms.com/group/ctratemoms/forum/topics/most-sailo...

 

 

Craig- but don't they have to live in that state for at least 6 mo's before they can claim residence?

 

He can't reap the benefits for certain items such as in-state tuition, or other items, but he can immediately change it to Florida if he's changing his residence.  

I know this subject pretty well, since I recommend all that live in a state that taxes a military member whether they live there on not to change it.  In Colorado where I'm from, they tax the crap out of military members.  So I changed my residence to Florida when I went to "A" school.  It was one of the best things I did.  

Here is the rules for Florida:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&...

My son changed his and he gets about 80 more each check.

That's good.  Did he use the "will" rule, or did he do something else?

 

I tell you, nothing ticks me off more than some states charging the military for taxes when they don't even live there to reap the benefits.  ie like the roads, the street lights, the parks....  Let those that live in those states pay the taxes....

Thanks Craig!  He joined in NC.  But, we moved down to FL in June.  He also was in school in Pensacola.  Will look into making that will out.

Since we had moved to Florida also he used our address. And he got his drivers license and registered to vote when he got his drivers license. He didn't have the license before. He had decided he didn't need one before. But once he was at a school decided he needed one so he could use one of the cars.

Pamela - It's easier to use the drivers license thing.  But the will is guaranteed thing.  It's written in to the offical Navy form.  So, I'd do both, it makes it sooo much easier.  Get the license and will, and have him go to PSD and let them change his state of residence.  It will free up about $1K per year.  

Just remember, he can't tell PSD he's doing it to save on taxes, all he needs to do is tell them he's wants to change his "State of Residence" and have him submit the form.  He doesn't need to tell them the real reason why.  He just needs to say the basics.  

For everyone:

Like I've said, this is only for those states that make their sailors pay tax.  If your state doesn't charge tax, why change it?  

 

thanks, Craig.  He even said that they must think he is 6 year.  I don't know if he told them he is only 4 year, yet.  But I'll tell him that what they don't know, won't hurt him, but sounds like it will help.  :)

Question, my son graduates on Nov 10th and has 14 days leave. Ok good right? Here's the bad part, the end of leave/due to report is Thanksgiving day. What happens as I know most people will be gone for the weekend? Would he most likely report Fri,sat or sunday? Just when I thought he be home for the holiday :(.

Thanks but he told me yesterday he has orders in his hand. 3days travel + leave gets him to his duty station on Thanksgiving. He's driving too. Pensacola to home is about 1400 miles. Then home to duty station is about 350 miles.

CTmomof3 - It really depends on how he wants to do his leave.  Everyone knows that it will be a 4 day weekend, so some want to check in on Wednesday night, then go back home for the long weekend. Thus saving their leave. 

Others rather just take the leave and not check in until Monday.  

If he want to extend his leave out, he needs tell his PSD that he wants his Report, no Later Than (RLT) date till 28 Nov.  It's is extremely easy to extend it out.   Just check with the PSD and they will either approve it or deny it....  To me, It's easier to extend it out, then if he decides that he doesn't want to take that much leave, then check in early.  

Craig, he told me yesterday that he's put in for...all...his leave so there for he said he can't extend.  He only has a total of 15 days this year.  So, being a holiday weekend and knowing that driving Wed or Sunday will be horrible (last year it took his dad 15hrs to go from Conn to DC on that Sunday) we're trying to figure our the best option.   Hmm, here's a question..He has to drive right by FT Meade on the way home.  Say he chose to report on Monday the 14th. and leave Wed morning would will he  be on...leave or liberty Thanksgiving weekend?  Sorry to sound dumb but I don't know how the Navy counts days off.

Clockard ..No he doesn't have a sponsor.  Said the person that did his orders "wasn't a nice person" and didn't tell him anything.

I find that strange that they won't let him go in the hole on a PSC transfer.  I have rarely heard that happen.  You need for him to check with PSD again.  Make sure they understand he will be there for 2 or 3 years....

 

If he's going right by Ft Meade, then I would check in Wednesday...  then take the long weekend.  His leave will have stopped.  If he checked in on Monday, then they could put him on a watchbill, but that would rarely happen since he's would be holding company.  

What is his exact date he departs Corry?  He doesn't want to check in too early since he will lose his travel time....   

He graduates the 10th and said he's leaving that day.  Not sure if he...has to leave that day...or he's just wants out of there so why hang around.

Maybe they would let him go in the hole but being new at this I'm sure he doesn't know what/should to ask for.

Ok, I have the next question.  My son finishes his shipboard ops on Nov. 11 and has been told that there are 5 CTT classes ahead of his awaiting their Orders.  What are the odds that he can plan on taking leave for Thanksgiving and flying home for a few days?  I'm afraid that if he pays for a ticket home now, he might get stuck for the cost if they do issue Orders before then.  Refundable tickets are just too far out of his price range and SW doesn't fly out of Pensacola, so he can't change the date if he needs too .  :(

Helloo...........anyone out there today?  LOL

 

I'm always here :)  Hoping my kid classes up soon...although she's really enjoying herself at Corry.  She informed me that she ate fried gator at the fair on Saturday.

salpetty, yum, that sounds awesome.  I love alligator.  I hope she doesn't have to wait too long to class up.

Haven't been on in forever so thought I would check in.  My son classed up two weeks ago and is enjoying Corry immensely.  Hopefully will be able to come home for Christmas. . . fingers crossed!

Urgent question. When going from A school to your duty station, If you're driving I assume the Navy gives you travel time. So if leave is being taken too does that time start after the allotted " travel" time? My son said he was taking 14days leave and I thought he had said he had 3 travel days. Graduation is the 10th. So if I count right his leave time would be the 13th-26th. However, the person at corry told him his leave ends on thanksgiving day. What's the travel leave policy?

I guessing you're saying is the travel on the front end or the back end.  Who cares?  As long as he gets his travel time is all that matters.  He gets 1 day per 350 miles traveled.  One additional day is allowed for any distance in excess of multiples of 350 miles if the excess is 51 miles or more.  He will also get per-diem too....

http://www.dfas.mil/pcstravel/civentitlements/miscexpenseallowance....

and

http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/JFTRV1-JTRV2_AFSU...

My son arrived at Corry Oct 16th. I found out he is classing up as of Monday.
Is this a record? He really loves it

Holy crap, that is quick....  What rating?

Ctt.

God bless the sailors and other military at Ft. Gordon! 

The civilian population will blame you guys for this problems, but we know it was just one crazy guy.   Just keep your heads held high and this will blow over once they realize the guy was insane....

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The story:

Authorities: Fort Gordon soldier fatally shot Richmond County deputy, killed himself

 

The man who fatally shot a Richmond County sheriff's deputy early this morning has been identified as a soldier stationed at Fort Gordon, Sheriff Ronnie Strength said during a news conference at 9 a.m.
Deputy James D. Paugh, 47, was on his way home after being on duty and stopped when he saw a suspicious car on the side of the Bobby Jones Expressway at Gordon Highway a little after 1 a.m. He pulled over to check on it and was shot several times, Strength said.
Christopher Michael  Hodges, 26, shot Paugh with an M4 semiautomatic rifle. Evidence gathered at the scene indicate that 35 rounds were fired by the Hodges. Before Paugh arrived, Hodges had been seen  firing at passing vehicles.

 

And More:

ATLANTA — The girlfriend of an Army National Guard soldier who fatally shot a sheriff's deputy and himself told investigators the gunman "definitely had a drinking problem" and grabbed an assault rifle from his trunk after she made him pull over while he was driving drunk, a Georgia sheriff said Monday.

"She said he had been drinking and he was drunk and that when he gets drunk, he gets violent," Richmond County Sheriff Ronald Strength said. "Why shoot a law enforcement officer? We don't have that answer."

Spc. Christopher Michael Hodges, 26, was randomly firing an assault rifle into traffic from behind his car on the side of an Augusta highway at about 1 a.m. Sunday when Deputy James Paugh pulled over and was shot — apparently not realizing at first that Hodges posed a threat, authorities said.

Hodges served in the Tennessee National Guard but had been training at Fort Gordon in Augusta for six months. Strength said Hodges' girlfriend told police that they had gotten into an argument in the car after he had gotten drunk at a friend's house.

"She said he definitely had a drinking problem," the sheriff said.

Hodges pulled off the highway and into the grass after "she got mad and said, 'Let me out. I want to go home,'" Strength said. "That's when he got out and got the rifle out of the car and started shooting."

The sheriff said Hodges didn't shoot at the woman, whose name wasn't released, but seemed to be randomly firing as he emptied one magazine on the M4 rifle and loaded another. Investigators found at least 40 shell casings, though no motorists reported being hit, Strength said. He said authorities were working to trace the gun, and Fort Gordon officials had determined it didn't come from the Army post.

Meanwhile investigators were awaiting autopsy results likely ready on Tuesday that are expected to include tests for drugs and alcohol in Hodges' blood.

And investigators were still trying to fill in the details of Hodges' military service for clues to what led to his outburst. Strength said authorities had determined the citizen-soldier had served in Iraq, but he wasn't sure of the timeline. He also cautioned that, while investigators are interested in whether Hodges suffered from any service-related mental problems, "we're not psychiatrists or psychologists."

"There are many things that will never be answered," Strength said.

The military said Hodges had served on active duty and later in the National Guard at least since 2005, when he was stationed at Fort Stewart with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division. His four years based at the southeast Georgia post included a yearlong deployment to Iraq from 2007 to 2008.

According to the Tennessee National Guard, Hodges joined its ranks in February after he'd spent about two years in the Georgia Guard.

"This is a time of deep sorrow for all involved and in the midst of this tragedy our thoughts are first and foremost with the families," Major Gen. Max Haston, Tennessee's adjutant general, said in a statement Monday. He said the military is working with civilian authorities to figure out what happened.

Neither Tennessee National Guard nor Fort Gordon officials have said what sort of training Hodges was doing at the post in Augusta. He belonged to the 1st Battalion,107th Aviation Regiment based in Smyrna, Tenn., which deployed to Afghanistan in June while Hodges was training at Fort Gordon.

Paugh was one of Richmond County's veteran deputies, having served for 17 years. Strength said the slain deputy was off-duty but still wearing his uniform when he was shot.

He said Paugh, 47, was riding his motorcycle home after spending the evening on patrol outside Augusta's fall fair. Authorities believe the deputy spotted Hodges' car beside the highway and stopped check.

Investigators found Paugh's motorcycle lying on its side in the grass, leading them to believe Hodges opened fire on the deputy before he could put down his kickstand. Evidence shows Paugh fired two shots from his service handgun, but he missed Hodges.

His funeral was planned for 11 a.m. Thursday at First Baptist Church of Augusta.

"We're set up for more than 1,000," said sheriff's Capt. Scott Gay. "We know that people are coming from all over Georgia and from throughout the United States."

Gay said his department has been flooded with emails and notes from well-wishers.

One of them, from a doctor in Ohio, said the deputy "is a true hero" and expressed hope that his family finds some comfort.

"I hope the fact that he is being honored by so many brings them some comfort in this time of loss," the note stated. "May they feel comfort and love from across the nation."

 

Thanks Craig. It's 1,019 miles from Corry to ft Meade. My son said the person at corry is less than helpful trying to schedule leave, although sometimes he doest explain his "wants" to well. It appears from what he was given was a...total..of 14days. Instead of 17...3 travel and 14 leave.

On the good part, now he will have 11 days leave, and 3 days travel.  More to use somewhere else (ie Christmas)....

Heidi- There are some links up above on the right Craig has posted on advancement. Maybe what you are looking for is there. They are under pages.

I noticed a post a while back that I can not find how CTT relates to Civilian jobs...can anyone direct me to where that is?

Here's some good info...have a great weekend everyone :)

https://www.cool.navy.mil/enlisted/ctt.htm

If you go to page 7 Craig has a link to critical naval enlistment.  Sorry but could not figure out how how paste it in this post.

salpetty - Great job!  That is exactly the link....

I actually thought I posted that here, but I actually posted it in the Colorado section since we had talked about that and other stuff during Molly's Packing Party...  He is some other info that might be helpful to you guys...

http://www.navyformoms.com/group/coloradomoms/forum/topics/october-...

who would be the people to talk to about help with a name change for my sailor. he had his last name changed before he went into the navy but after his sighn up delayed entry paperwork was done, recruiter was given paperwork about the name change and recruiter said they would deal with it in boot camp but they didnt every time it was broughst to their attention he kept getting either yelled at or put off, now he is at A school there in pensicola still trying who can he go to so that it will actually be taken care off

hotrod- My son said to have him go to the psd office. He will probably need all the proof. He could also call first to make sure he has everything he needs.

hotrod-another navymom posted this for a similiar question in another group.

PSD Pensacola is located in Bldg. 680 (next to the main gas station adjacent to the NEX Aviation Plaza and the Naval Aviation Chapel). PSD Pensacola can be reached by telephone at 452-3617.

hotrod - He needs to go the base legal.  They in turn will advise him if it is legally binding, if so, then they (legal) should call PSD on your sons behalf.  Your son just needs to ask legal for assistance with PSD and/or write a memo.  

He shouldn't just go to PSD himself, because they will just give the run-around.  Let legal handle everything.

thankyou all for the help this has been a constant worry for us both i will pass on the info.  we are worried that through no fault of his own he will get into trouble for it not eing changed over yet

Craig, How do I read the "Critical NEC List in Fleet Ride" spread sheet? What do the numbers represent?

CRF230dad - I have had that asked a bunch of times on my NavyDEP.com website, so I went ahead and made an info sheet breaking out the various areas.  

It's in an Excel format.   Just click the various worksheet at the bottom when it opens.  I broke out the CTI rating since those guys are weird and have a bunch of different variables.  .  Just look at the PAGES area located under the pictures of the members, and you will see it

My son is graduating from A school 6 yr. CTT this Friday and I was wondering if anyone had someone that is also graduating and if you are going because I would really like to get some pictures of my son. I live in Ca. and it is just way to much money to fly out. 

cinder, just ask your son to check with some of his buddies to see if they have family coming that could do that. They will probably do the graduation in the chapel and when my son graduated, they were great about stopping and posing for pictures. I took pictures of every single graduate and my son then posted them all on Facebook. It was so nice to get comments on them from the other parents/family who couldn't be there.

Bety,Mom and Cinder:  I got my photos on Facebook too from others taking the pictures- it was so nice! Definitely ask your sailor to have his friends or girl friends of friends to do this.

 

cinder, My son is also a 6y CTT from Calif. but he does not graduate until Dec.I will be the same boat come graduation time. I hope someone can take pics for me. Good luck!

All: My sailor (CTTSA) said when he got to San Diego, Navy gave him peice of paper that told him all the jobs that are most suited for him due to his asvab score and security clearance, and number 1 job that was recommended to him was special warfare boat operator. The second was special warfare operative.

He would I think have to switch jobs for this I think. He is indecisive about it- I thought I would ask you all what you think about this - My advice to him is to stay CTT : he hasn't even been out yet on his ship to do his job as of yet- (His ship in dry dock for repairs for who knows how long). What do you know of these jobs...my instinct is for him to stay CTT - at least get that under his belt before switching now.

 

 

That's a good question for Craig.

All- just found out that he does not have to change jobs for this. boy is this confusing stuff!

Is it the type of ship they want to put him on?

I don't know- I have to get more info from him to understand- but apparently he can do this maybe while he waits for his ship, USS Lake Champlain to get out of Dry Dock- I really don't know. The fact that I thought he would have to switch jobs threw me off- but now he says no. Got to love all of this!!!  LOL

All- thought I would change my profile picture - taken when he was home in Denver last month!