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Craig has discussion page called MEETS manual for the 2011 advnacement test maybe that will help.

Yes....that's it.  It's the NEETS Modules.  NEETS stands for Naval Electrical Engineering Training Series.  I love Craig.  He knows everything!!!

LOL I called it MEETS not NEETS thanks for catching that.  By the way it all looks Greek to me.

Yeah! And thank God we don't have to know this stuff :)

Robin:  Congrats to your daughter on that first test!

CTF - If they allow him to take it, then take it.  He will at least earn the Pass-but-not-advance (PNA) points.  They're not much, but I've seen 100's of time sailors missing it by less than a point.

salpetty - Most senior sailors don't even know this, thus nor would any parent.  But you don't need to order a advancement test for him.  They can split a test.  Here is the rule:

 http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/instructions/BUPERS...

607. SPLITTING EXAMINATIONS
a. If there is an eligible candidate without an examination
and another candidate is taking the same examination, the
examination booklet will be "split" and shared between the two
candidates (designated “A” and “B”). Separate the examination
booklet into two equal parts (staple to prevent loss of pages);
give each candidate one-half of the booklet; and administer the
examination to each candidate simultaneously. When both
candidates have finished their respective halves, a proctor will
examine each half, remove any markings made by the first user,
and exchange the halves. There is no time limit for completion
of the first half, but the overall 3-hour time limit must be
observed. Should one candidate finish the first portion prior
to their "sharing" candidate, do not rush the "working"
candidate. Allot each candidate a 3-hour testing period. In
recording the examination serial number on the answer sheet,
each candidate will use the same number. Denote duplicate use
only on the letter of transmittal by entering (DUP) after the
examination serial number of both candidates. No more than two
candidates may use the same examination booklet.
b. Duplicate use is authorized only if the examination can
be administered to b

Yes....splitting exams. I know about that.  It's a pain in the A$$ for the test takers because they are at the mercy of the other person. I'm the kind of person that I either knows the material or I don't and when I'm done with a test I want to vacate the premises immediately...not wait around for the other guy who has to go over each answer two and three times.  Ugh!   Once I took the test while I had the flu and just wanted to get out of there so fast that I just got the test done in under an hour because I just didn't care.  Funny thing is, that's the cycle I made 1st Class.

CRF - To pass the advance test is kind-of simple, but sailors fail to follow the guidelines, thus they don't get advanced.

The Navy testing group gathers the questions from different materials, then they have to reference those questions to where they got them.  So if you study what they recommend, then you will do really good, thus probably passing.  The page is called a "Bibliography".  The website I will list wants money for test, but the test kind of suck.  So just use it to find the reference materials (and not the test).

I will use your sailor for an example:

1.  Go to this website: http://navybmr.com/  

2.  Click on CTT

3. On the top left hand side, choose CTT2, pull it down to "Active March 2012 Bib"

4.  This will tell you every book and chapter you need to advance.  

When I was in, the sailor actually hated when advancement time came around.  One of my pet peeves is for my guys to advance.  So, for my shop I made it a General Military Training (GMT) requirement that 2 sailors, independently would summarize each chapter for the BIB.  The I compiled them.  From then on, all they had to do is study 3 or 4 pages instead of an entire book.  I still have a lot of the unclassified stuff, which I think I posted here and on my website.    

It's funny, because the Pensacola Adcvancement center actually investigated my shop since it got really high scores (they thought we were cheating).  They left impressed.  I still run into the guys I trained.  They said they were so ticked at time, but are so thankful now.....  

Good info Craig. What I have found is the Navy is very predictable when it comes to writing advancement exams. Hence the reason I see the exact questions, with the exact wording coming straight from the assignments in the back of various NAVEDTRA, et al courses. The BIBs tell you what to study.  Do that and you're good to go.  Now...will my kid listen to YN1 mommy?  Probably not. 

clockard - Woo-hoo!  That is great.  It's always great to have them back...  Time just go by too quick...

salpetty - It's not just the moms or dads, it the Chief's and LPO's too.  I can ask 95 of 100 sailors and they will not even know what a BIB is.  The sailors just haven't learned on how to play the system to their advantage yet.  

btw:  Here are the answers to the March 2012 cycle:

(Step back 8 feet to see it better)

Hello everyone,

It feels kind of strange reaching out to a group of strangers but here I am :)  My son just left for BC yesterday and I am a bit of a mess.  I know most of your sailors have been in longer but I am just wondering if what I am feeling is normal or if I should run to the nearest therapist!  I feel almost as if I am morning my son.  I see his things and I break out in tears and I just am so worried about him that I am having trouble functioning.  I know it has only been a day so hopefully this will pass.  He is away from home nearly each summer at Boy Scout Camp so I am used to him being away for long periods of time but this is different.  Is this normal?  I know he will come back but I just feel such a loss!  Also, how can I find the moms of the other sailors that are at BC now?  I feel so unprepared and like I am in a world that I don't understand.  Thanks in advance for any advice!  Wyobraska Mom!

Welcome wyobraskamom- We have all felt that feeling when they first left. So no you don't need a therapist. Just remember that he will be fine and is just moving on with the next step in his life. Just start writing him letters as you will get his address in about a week or so.

There will be a page for your son's PIR. They usually go off the PIR date. Not sure how long it takes to be up.

Craig you are hilarious!!! Good one.  And I know what you mean about Chiefs and LPOs.  There are people in the world who seek out information that will help them and those who don't or expect others to do it for them.  No me gusta the latter type. 

Clockard:  You are sooooooo lucky and I'm so happy for you!  Enjoy every minute :)

Wyobraskamom,   Celebrate being normal!  Your entry brought tears to my eyes just thinking about three (short) months ago.  It was a month before I could walk into my son's room without crying.  Hang in there.  Start writing letters now, and you will have a pack ready to go when you do get his address.  He will appreciate it.  My son said that was the one thing he appreciated most at BC (and some of the guys were envious of the amount of mail he received from his four close family members).  He would be having the "worst day of his life" and then get a pack of letters from home and say "today Rocks!"  Just tell him how proud you are and you love him (no such thing as too much).  My son is now at DLI in Monterey, and we get to see him, as we are about a 90-minute drive away. I am so lucky!

Thanks for all the advice ladies.  It is good to know that I am not going crazy!  I sure feel like it.  I will look for the PIR group.  Not sure if there even is one yet but I'll sure check it out!    Each comment has really helped me today and I have already started on a letter.  Thanks again everyone!

Amen to Sammy1990's comment!!

Wyobraskamom:  If you are on facebook, RTC has a page as well:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/NavyRecruitTrainingCommand

They have graduation pics, contests to win a picture of your kid's division, etc.  Lots of support there to.  I found that writing to my daughter every day made me feel better...Don't worry about running out of things to say, just write anything.  I wrote letters from the dogs, from famous people, silly stuff...just anything to try and crack her up while she was there.  Plus it keeps you busy as well.  Hang in there.  You are definitely not alone in your feelings.

LOL Craig, I just emailed my son the info.  I really appreciate all of your knowledge and can only hope that my son gets someone like you to train him.

wyobraska have you joined the group boot camps moms?  That is where everyone posts while their kid is in boot camp and the PIR groups are formed.

I just got off the phone with my daughter and I have some news.  Apparently all the 6 year CTTs (or at least those in C school..it wasn't clear) are having a meeting today with a Master Chief or Senior Chief (she wasn't sure which) and they are supposedly all getting soft orders.  Then by the end of this week, they are trying to get the 4 year CTTs soft orders.  Word on the street is that they are trying to open up 60 billets and just trying to get people out of Corry sooner than later.  I'm not sure if this affects any of you.  My daughters expected end date of C school (or Shipboard Ops) is March 29, if any of you have kids/loved ones in this class or the class(es) above her.  Nothing is set in stone obviously because the word "soft" is being thrown around a lot....but just wanted to let you know.

What is "soft orders?" My son is scheduled to go to Corry this Saturday after his PIR on Friday.

Meaning, not written.  Not set in stone, but at least this is a start for those that have been sitting in holding for awhile since they've finished their schooling.

I will ask my son if he heard anything he is currently in C school and will get done middle of May.  Your daughter always manages to get the scoop on stuff and I greatly appreciate it.

Yes, Cinder...let us know.  I think she gets the scoop because I keep nagging her :)  I'll pass on anything more that I hear.

Wyobraskamom welcome, We have all been there and it's just not ladies here. The Navydads.com website is pretty slow compared to here so here I am. The Navy's Recruit Training Command has there own website of bootcamp. http://www.bootcamp.navy.mil/index.asp It has all the information about boot camp and graduation (PIR). Once your son lets you know which  Ship and Division he is in go to the facebook page salpetty spoke of, like it, them go to the forums link on the left. There you will find a discusion page just for your son's ship and division. If they don't have one yet, make one. Also once you have the ship & division info go to the RTC weblink above then go to Families>Graduation>Upcoming Graduations from the main page. Here you will find the Divisions Graduating by Training Group schedule. They are updated every week. There will also be a group on this site for your son's ship/division and/or PIR date. Until you know that there is also a boot camp group. I have found out more GOOD information from on-line forums than any Navy web site. Through some discussions with other Navy mom's on the facebook page and here and details from their kids letters we deduced that your boys were in the same division and knew one another. So one day the other guy comes up to my son and say; "Hey I think my mom knows your dad." So my son say's I'm cyber stalking him. LOL

What rate (his job) is your son? Again welcome!

Thanks salpetty and Craig for the test info.

This is good.... It just came out today....

Cryptologic Technician (Networks) 1st Class (IDW/EXW) Ricky Durr is the only CTN aboard Vinson. Listen as he explains his role in computer network defense for the strike group.

http://cvn70blogspot.tumblr.com/post/18909412434/cryptologic-techni...

Woo-hoo, my nephew got to meet his detailer today, and has his verbal orders.....   A ship in San Diego, exactly what he wanted.....

Awesome!

My son said a whole bunch or orders came in yesterday but primarily for the CTs already in done with school or about to finish.

Yep.  Just talked to my daughter.  6 guys just got written orders today.  Her instructor/LPO told her that she should be getting hers tomorrow.  She's really hoping for San Diego....and my selfish side is hoping she gets SD too. 

Craig- My son in San Diego on board USS Lake Champlain- Loves it there!!  Still waiting in ship yards to get done with repairs and what not- He said he is tiered of being a "janitor" since last October.  hopefully soon it will be ready to do the CTT job he was trained for. I am worried he will forget everything he learned in P'Cola after 6 months of ship yard duties.

calliecl- yes- he was home for 4 days - got married- then back to the ship. His new wife is trying to get moved there once they figure out how to get her moved.  My son can't wait to finally start doing his real job!!!

My nephew is going to the USS John Paul Jones DDG-53.  San Diego woo-hoo!

joy - I met your son today.  Since they were on a long break I was able to show him a lot of stuff normal people don't get to see.  He brought one of his classmate and I think they had a good time.  I probably drove him crazy because I brought them up to the antenna RF room and told them about 100 times, "Don't touch anything".  Very rare does anyone get to see that.  

So next time he calls, tell him Craig said "Do not touch anything".  

Craig, our son said he enjoyed meeting you and taking the tour.  He said it was very cool!  I will tell him what you said!  Thanks for everything.

My son told me there were alot of orders for San Diego.  They ran out of orders way before him and that there were alot of people at the meeting.

Has anyone stayed at the Ashton Inn across from Corry? We are visiting P-cola in June and want a place we can fix meals. I appreciate any input.

We walked in and asked to look at a room but they wouldn't show us one so we left. It made me a little suspicious. I have read both good and bad reviews. I read nothing but good things about the Suburban just down the street. I stayed at a condo 3 of our 4 visits to P'cola. There are some very reasonable ones out there.

I've read nothing but horrible reviews about the Ashton on Warrington Rd. but better ones about the one on Navy Bivd.

crfdad we likes to stay at the navy lodge on the NAS base as it also had a kitchenette. Even when our son was at Corry as they are not to far apart.

The navy lodge is just fine for most, Nothing fancy but just what you need !!! good price and comfortable.... 

Nice little blog:

http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2012/03/13/navy-itct-community-celebrat...

Salpetty thanks for sharing pretty incredible that this has been going on for 77 years. 

This is MR.MOM,,,,, My son passed BST21 & made E-2,,, I will see him Friday. Then he is off to FL for A-School as a CTMSA.... 31 week and who knows how many hurricanes lol.... I lived in FL for 10 yrs so they are nothing compared to tornadoes in TN... you can see hurricanes coming lol  

TABBY  is my wife and she likes cats.... not me lol  I'm a DOG....... man  lol

Tabby Mr MOm congrats on your son finishing boot camp. He will like Pcola. My son is CTM so if you have any questions just ask. He was there a total of 9 months which included c school. Craig on here is retired CTM and has lots of info if you need it.

Woots to your new Sailor! My son was there for 10 mos. for CTR. Luckily he lived through those summer mos without a hurricane, just lots of rain. The bad thing about Corry is the lightning. They get put on lockdown fairly often.  About the Hurricans:  I live in a county totally devastated by Hurricane Irene (and a few others prior) and even though you can see a Hurricane coming, there isn't anything you can do to prevent your homes schools, and other loved places from being destroyed. 8 months later my parents, neighbors do not have homes and we still have no middle school in our county. Warning doesn't really help.