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  • Joy

    Best of luck to your daughter, Craig!  

  • navymom3

    Congrats Craig. I love the pics.

  • harpist mom

    You have a lovely daughter with a beautiful smile, Craig. Why did she choose the Air Force instead of the Navy?

  • Craig

    harpist -  So,  my daughter recently came up to me and wanted to join the Navy.  She has been studying medical stuff in college and basically burned herself out. She wants to do something new and fun.  Do you know what I told her?  "DON'T JOIN THE NAVY".  It's not a good fit.  She want's to do a medical job. The problem is, AND IN MY OPINION,  the Navy actually kind of sucks for learning medical stuff.  My daughter didn't want to be a corpsman just passing out Motrin.  She wants to work near a combat zone (since females can't actually work in a combat zone), seeing and helping at the blood and guts level (emergency trauma), which you don't get in the Navy.

    She wants to do Medevac flights helping those that need her help. Her ultimate goal is to be a Physician Assistant.  

    To get to that goal she needs to have 2000 hours of one-on-one patient care, and she needs to finish her complete her college classes geared toward PA school.

    In the Navy, you can't get even begin the college education because of the new rule that says you must be at your 1st duty station 1 year before you can even think of taking college classes.  By the time boot camp, "A" & "C" school, and your 1st duty station is done, you'll have only 2 years left.  

    Read para 5 here:  NAVADMIN 105/10

    Secondly, the medical equipment on the ships suck.  If you have major problems they will helo you off and send you to carrier, then on to a big medical shore station.  Ships only do the minor stuff.  That is not my daughter. 

    I found this picture to be awesome. These are the military people she desires to help.  

  • Craig

    This is the uniform she really wanted to wear, but being a female, she can't.  

    notice the cover (hat) ie USMC

  • salpetty

    Great photos Craig.  Beautiful family :)  Congrats to your daughter!

  • cinder

    Congrats Craig everyone looks so happy.  She is lucky to have you as a dad to help guide her in the correct direction.

  • boilermom

    Craig- congrats to your daughter! And I could not find anything much for AF moms.

    Lady Hamilton- My son is also at Goodfellow and should graduate 4/26 from C school, then on to Misawa Japan (another AF base).  And yes, AF facilities are nicer.  There is not a lot to do in San Angelo unless you have a car.

  • salpetty

    A few Sailors at Corry have just gotten verbal orders to various pre commissioned ships.  My daughter included.  Her Chief told her to expect written orders next week to USS Arlington (LPD 24) in Norfolk.  This could be very exciting.  There's nothing like the fanfare involved in a commissioning ceremony!  Hope those waiting for orders get them sooner than later :)

  • cinder

    Salpetty how exciting for your daughter.  My son is probably in school until Nov.  so I'm sure he didn't get verbal orders.  My son called me yesterday and said the instructor let them have a beach party they had alot of fun and got some sun.

  • sammy1990

    Congrats craig. My family is just the opposite. We have three air force and one navy. You will enjoy the af basic training graduation. You get to go into their dorms and look around. The ceremony is outside with a fly-over. Does your daughter have an afsc assigned already? My son picked the navy because he could get his rate assigned at meps and the af said they would be assigned a catagory, but the actual job assignment would not be given until at basic training. Actually, I am loving learning this service. I find it the same yet quite different.
  • sammy1990

    Traveling and missed my flight. I am camping out in the DFW USO. Tell your sailors to take advantage of these. What an amazing place...as I sit in a theater chair watching field of dreams and men in black. They have a room you can sleep in with a bubbling fountain for serenity, a child's play area, a game room, computer room and another lounge upstairs. I got a coupon for three free items of choice from the cafe. Too bad it isn't open over night. Lol. Flight out at 8 am.
  • cinder

    CRF230dad, Haven't seen around in a while.  I think my son is right you are building the machine that they work on from toasters and microwaves.  LOL

  • sunshine73

    That is an awesome shirt! Love it!

  • cinder

    My son got me that tshirt I love it.

  • salpetty

    Love that!  My daughter told me about that shirt when she arrived at Corry.  But wanted to wait till she graduated before she got it.

  • Craig

    Hey all,
    This just came out.  It has all the ratings, but I linked it to the CTN stuff.  Just click on the link and click "CTN Community Overview".
    What should happen is a Power Point pop up should appear.  If you notice, they say the CTN advancement rating will go up this cycle.  Which is a good thing.  Just wanted to make you guys aware....
    (NOTE: FOR OTHER RATINGS, JUST CLICK ON THE VARIOUS RATINGS OR GROUPS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE)
  • cinder

    Thanks Craig I sent that on to my son.

  • cinder

    Craig what are the zones?  Where do you find out what they are?

  • CTmomof3

    Has anyone heard if CT's are suggested not to have fb accounts? Maybe my son is taking things "mentioned" too far. First let me say he very, very, very rarely posts anything. If he goes on at all it's mostly because someone in the family telling him to look at something. He knows you must be careful using any social network site. He's finally going to start his job soon, after holding since the end of November. So maybe he's being overly cautious? It would make me sad not to be able to leave him a message. What's anyone's take on this?
  • Debbie G.

    CTmomof3: my son is a CTN and he's hyper about this also.  As a matter of fact, the last time I sent him something via facebook he got angry and said it was on a "need to know basis" - and I told him that it was reported by the Associated Press! He has a fb account, but i don't post anything much on it. Guess our sons are being overly-contientious lol!

  • CTmomof3

    Maybe Debbie. A few weeks after he got to Pensacola he called and said he felt bad that he unfriended a family friend..just in case. She's chinese. He never corresponded with this person but thought it best she not be on his friends list. Now the whole darn account. My older son still has his account but only posts stupid stuff.. Sometimes...but never ever military related. Well,except for his cruel. April fools joke.
  • navymom3

    Mine is CTM and he has a fb. We are just very careful about what we say. If we have a question we use the private message or text. He posts pics and stuff not not much while he is out floating. but we do private message while out floating and email.

  • cinder

    My son has a facebook page hardly posts and it isn't even set to private.  I think some instructors tell them not to have facebook it just depends.

  • Craig

    Cinder - This is what I wrote on my website:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Question:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ctraggie View Post
    CTR has been steadily increasing the manned % ever since I signed my contract... It's up to 92%, was in the 80s when I signed.

    Is this a sign that they'll soon be cutting it down?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Reply by BKinsman:

    Just from my understanding but it is at 92% of where they want it to be. Meaning they ideally want it at 100%.

    E1-E3 looks heavy but E4 and E5 look undermanned which is excellent for advancement. If I read it right getting from E3 to E4 is at 100% which effectively means TIR, a few months after A school and we should be Petty Officers 3rd Class. And E4 to E5 is at around 56%, also damned good.

    Getting E6 oddly looks tougher than getting E7. In all areas we are above the Navy's average as far as advancement except for E6 where we are a good bit lower.

    The main culprit for that looks like the number of 'wanted' CTR1 drops by 91 from FY2012 to FY2014, going from 95% manning to 106% if it stays at the present number. Anything below 100% is good for us. E1-E3 doesn't matter overmuch except that you know they will be 'flowing up'.

    That's my understanding of it at least. Craig, could you give ctraggie and I some insight on what is notable on the CTR community overview?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    My answer:

    Totally agree. 92% is a great number. Being undermanned is where you always want. 
    You guys are good till your 10 year active duty point, then after that your screwed using today's data. But things will easily change by then. You have nothing to worry about. If you notice the senior levers are overmanned, so that means that some of those sailors will not make the Perform To Serve (PTS) board (ie they will have to cross rate or be kicked out). This sucks for them, but it will open positions up for you guys. The Navy is just "Thinning the Herd". 
    What is good is you look at the Zone levels and they are great for you newbies. You are doing good. Just to explain what Zone levels mean:
    Zone:
    A = 21 months to 6 years
    B = 6 to 10 years
    C= 10 to 14 years
    D = 14 to 20 years
    E = >20 years. 
    So look at the CTR sheet with the above link. You will see that a CTR with the NEC 9138 will get a multiplier of 2, if you are in Zone A. (ie Zone A means you have 21 months to 6 years of active duty). If you had that NEC, and you decide to reenlist at your 6 year 1 day point, you will get nothing since you now have fallen into Zone B.

  • cinder

    Ok so my son is Ctt and it shows zone B and zone E way undermanned I guess that will be good after his 6 years they will want to keep him. Am I figuring that right?
  • Craig

    Per the Facebook topic.  The CT sailors always goes way overboard when it comes to security (which is actually a good thing).  I have never heard of the Navy wanting to stop people from using Facebook.  All they are saying is be careful when using Facebook...  

    Yea, when you will read military stuff in the newspaper or on the news.  You should say clear of those topics with your sailor.  The reason is we (the CT's)  get so use to working with classified information that we talk openly about it at work.  You might mess up and say something you shouldn't when you talk to family members about military stuff in the newspaper.  What happens then is you must to a "Self Report" to the Security Manager and this gets logged into your record.  They say these (self-report) don't count against you, but they do.  What's good about getting this logged is when you do your next polygraph and they ask if you ever pass classified information to someone not authorized to receive it, you can say "Yes".  They will then ask if you reported it and you say "Yes".  They check it out and your golden.  However, if you fail this question, you're screwed.  Bottomline is just don't talk real world military stuff.  Stay away from it.  Then they never have to second guess stuff.  Just like here with me, you'll notice I will never talk about real world military topics.  

    But here is what the Navy is officially putting out:

    http://www.doncio.navy.mil/ContentView.aspx?ID=1818

    Ok, maybe I'll talk about the new Air Force aircraft carrier....

  • cinder

    LOL, well they do play basketball on carriers why not golf.
  • Craig

    Cinder - Yep, he's good....

  • NavyMom4J

    What about CTT's??   Is it the same for them?

  • Craig

    NavyMom4J - Cinder asked that 5 post below this one (ie 1 below the Air Force aircraft carrier.....)

    A little early in the morning huh?  j/k

  • NavyMom4J

    oh ya---  bleary eyed and did not have my coffee yet!

  • salpetty

    My daughter just got orders to a pre-com unit for the USS Arlington (LPD 24).  She’s gonna be a plank owner!!!!  I am so proud of her.  She heads to Norfolk in May!  But of course she comes home to Long Beach first!!

    http://www.arlington.navy.mil/

     

  • cinder

    What is a plank owner???

  • salpetty

    A plank owner is a term for an original crew member around when the ship is being readied for commission and/or part of the commissioning.  The Arlington is expected to be commissioned in late winter/early spring 2013.

  • salpetty

    Cinder:  Here is a really good explanation:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plank_owner

  • cinder

    That is very cool she must be very excited.  I couldn't tell by the picture but what type of ship is it? 

  • salpetty

    LPD - Amphibous transport dock or Landing platform dock.  She is very excited.  I guess a Senior chief from that unit was visiting Corry today and my daughter said he was really cool and talked about other members of the crew that are just real nice people.  She's looking forward to all the training she's gonna be getting prior to commissioning.

  • CRF230dad

    In 2 hours I'll be at the airport hugging our son on weekend leave. Can't wait

  • cinder

    Are you going there or is he coming home? Lucky you I can hardly wait to see my son. Probably go in june or July.
  • salpetty

    Have a wonderful weekend with your son CRF230dad!!!

  • salpetty

    Oh I know.  A few members of my unit and myself worked during the USS Dewey Commissioning a couple years ago here in Seal Beach, CA.  What a sight.  Here is a picture of the ship being "brought to life." 

  • cinder

    Lady Hamilton where is the best place to get challenge coins?
  • salpetty

    As a former sailor, I think the best challenge coins are the ones that are given to you or you earned. Whether it was given to you by a captain via a special handshake or a unit coin, or you received it from a visiting dignitary....it's just more meaningful.
  • cinder

    Will they give him a coin after c school for Ctt? I thought it would be a nice gift for my son.
  • proudmom

    I got my sons Challenge coins at Challenge Coin Depot and also got the CT coin engraved as well.

  • cinder

    What did you guys have engraved on the back? Just curious.
  • sunshine73

    cinder~when my sailor graduated A school, I had CTR "Last Name" on the first line, and then the graduation date on the second line. He loved his coin. 

  • cinder

    Very nice thanks.
  • salpetty

    Lady Hamilton:  I absolutely LOVE that coin design.  It looks so classy!