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All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018. 

Boot Camp: Making a Sailor (Full Length Documentary - 2018)

Boot Camp: Behind the Scenes at RTC

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First Things First-- The Quarantine Edition

First things first.....New Moms.... Take a Deep Breath in....... Let it out...... Take another one......... Let it out....... Repeat continuously!!!  Just keep breathing and it will all be OK!! We haven’t lost a mom to Boot camp yet, we won’t start with you.

If your Recruit has not left yet: have him or her leave you a voicemail message so when you just can't stand it you can hear their message (Over and Over and Over, Just don’t listen to it till after they've been gone for at least 24 hrs. You’ll know when it’s time.), Sneak a note of encouragement in their wallet and ask them to leave you a note at home so you can find it there. One of the Moms suggested setting a time of day that they would be thinking about/ praying for their SR. That way they would always be connected. Also have them call as soon as they land in Chicago. It will be your last "Visit" until the call home around week 4 or 5. Also talk with them about who they want to be told about and when, should something happen back home. I know this is an uncomfortable topic but with COVID it is important to know. They likely would not be able to come home unless it is for Their Immediate family (and not always then, especially with COVID!)

Other things to take care of before your Recruit leaves: Please go read this page! It is Very Helpful and has a complete list of all the things you may want to consider before they leave. Keep in mind it was written some time ago and the box is no longer shipped home (take the Charger for their phone!!)and a few other things may have also changed but the basic gist is still there. https://navyformoms.ning.com/forum/topics/things-to-do-in-the-last-...
If you have time I would get Power of Attorney’s for: any real property, A financial power of attorney and a Medical Power of Attorney There are many places that you can get the forms for free Online and then you just have to get them notarized. I also suggest they open an account with Navy Federal Credit Union if you have a location near you. (the article goes into why and what all they will need otherwise) If you also have the time I strongly suggest you look into getting a Civilian Passport or at least getting all the paperwork filled out if they are going to a Long A school (nuke or corpsman). Most of the time they can and will travel “on orders”, However if they are stationed overseas they will need a passport to travel outside of their “Station Country” (and Europe has many wonderful countries to see but some are smaller than many of our States!!). If they have to travel under an emergency or something happens to their orders they will at least have their Passport to allow for some greater ease.

Now on to ROM/P-Days and what the first few weeks may hold.
Day of Departure/ MEPS/ Flying out-- After they Swear in (You can no longer attend this ceremony. :'( ) they will be transported to the Airport to fly to Chicago (unless you live close by in which case they are bused.) Shortly after arrival they will make the “I am Here Call” This usually comes Very late at night or Early morning (Ours came at 1:30am Mountain time) It is Scripted “"I made it. I'm here. I'm fine. Look a letter in about 3 weeks. I will try to call in about 3 weeks. Love ya. I gotta go." I advise just talking over your SR (Seaman Recruit) and telling them you love them and are proud of them and you KNOW they GOT THIS and OH Yeah… You LOVE THEM!!! Don’t expect an answer but know they will have heard you!

Quarantine Begins

They will go straight from the Airport to the ROM Location. Upon arrival there they will be given a Duffel bag with their sweats and basic clothing (No shoes! So for those still waiting to go make sure they wear GOOD Tennis shoes that are comfortable and still in good enough shape to last a while!) They should get a hygiene kit with a toothbrush/paste, shampoo?, soap, razor and unscented deodorant. Gals should take some hygiene products if they think they MAY need it in the first 3 weeks of BC. They should be able to get stuff if needed but better safe than sorry. IF they are worried they can bring those from home but they should take them in a Ziptop bag since they may end up in the box and they don’t want them to get all over anything else in the box!! (Like cell phones!!!)
They will be in Quarantine for the next 14 days at an off base location with 2 other recruits of the same gender.  They have been assigning Div numbers (Division Numbers are the Smaller group of SR’s that train together. A Training Group (TG) is all the Div’s scheduled to PIR on the same day (Typically a Friday although we have heard they are moving PIR to Thursday to allow for recruit movement on Friday to their A school) as they arrive at Quarantine, but you still likely will not know an address until the form letter arrives following ROM.   They will have 3 meals provided (updated** Currently 3 mostly hot meals that are varied by time and by Day!! No more turkey 3x a day). Doors are kept open so they can visit with the 3 in their room and maybe the 3 across the hall but they are NOT allowed to leave the room.  They have been given their Blue Jacket (Training manual) in the initial gear so they have material to begin studying but they will not be tested until they are onboard RTC.  They have time to read and write so you may get letters sooner than previous years.(Sending them with an envelope and a couple of stamps would be a good idea so they can mail the letter home right away!). Everything they brought from home will go in a box that is placed outside the door, They cannot access those items. I suggest if they bring toiletries that they bring a Ziptop baggie to separate liquids from their phones and clothes.  I have heard that some have been permitted to keep books and they have been allowed to watch some tv  (recent reports of Netflix and youTube on the Smart tv in the room) but others have said no, so... That may be a privilege earned. They are also given some basic exercises (planks are the new standard but we have heard that some still do curl-ups as well.  No Running!!!) that they are permitted to do, if they choose (Encourage them to Choose!!) but the RDC's do not use that as IT during this time. (IT- Instructional Training, Intensive Training, Incentive Training = change your attitude or do better or you get to do this exercise to get the message home. Not really punishment but can feel that way at times.) After 14 days they will be moved onboard RTC where they will visit Medical and Dental & finalize processing paperwork and begin the next 6ish weeks of training!! About 3-4 weeks (usually on a Thursday) you should get the form letter with the address.  At this point you can send all the letters you have been writing!! (Number them and make a copy somehow just in case they get lost) Keep sending letters if they get placed back into ROM, (NO CARE Packages!! Regular mail will forward but Sandboxx letters will not) About 4 weeks after they have left is the first earned phone call.   Bootcamp is still 8-9 weeks if there are no cases of COVID for that individual Division. but if anyone tests positive they go back into ROM and it may take longer.  This is the Navy so EVERYTHING posted here is subject to change until it isn't!!

Once they are onboard RTC they will transition to Training Days. Usually denoted as W1TD1 (Week 1 Training Day 1). The first day there they will fill out the form letter that gets mailed home. That letter along with any letters written in ROM will be collected and mailed the next business day (Remember we do not count Sat, Sun or Holidays except as ROM Days). Usually the form and first letters arrive home between 21 and 28 business days since departure, HOWEVER there are reasons it may be delayed. Lots of reasons that are NOT cause to panic. It is hard but Repeat after me... No News is Good News!! Again! No News is GOOD NEWS!!!  Repeat daily, hourly, Minute by minute as necessary! Shout it if you need to or whisper it as a prayer! Whatever gets you through. The Form letter will give you the address and PIR date! Time to Mail all the letters you have been writing! I know how hard the waiting can be but calling the recruiters is not advised. They may have the wrong address and letters sent early may not arrive in a timely fashion since the Mail Petty Officer has to be trained and until that happens mail is set aside to be sorted later and sometimes that later is MUCH later!! The first few weeks are honestly the hardest part of BC! Your emotions are still raw from letting go of your Child and knowing that for better or worse they will be changed by this experience and add to that the Communications Blackout that is imposed and it can be quite overwhelming but trust us that they know you love them, they feel your prayers and you will get a chance to send letters!

Around week 4 you will get the first call home. They may be homesick and there may be tears so be prepared and be strong. (You can come here and cry later, to quote my favorite wizard,”I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.”  It’s ok to cry about missing your baby, even if they are mostly full grown!! (We are over 7 years in and I still cry on occasion—Navy Mom Allergies!!!) The call can come on ANY day of the Week at any time from 8am-8pm-ish Central time. Calls will not come on Sunday Mornings but they can come any other time. Keep Phones charged and ringers on LOUD at all times while they are in BC!! Answer ALL Calls!! Yes telemarketers may call but you can hang up on them!! You don't want to risk missing a call from your Recruit!  Keep a notepad handy of all the questions you want to ask so you don't forget!

In the meantime while you are waiting through the “Great Silence”, write letters!!! Write all the Letters you can! Take all the raw emotional letters and save them for a BC burning/shredding party at the end of BC and get ready to send positive and encouraging letters. There is a whole file here on letter writing. Read all you can and watch the videos “The Making of a Sailor” videos to get an idea of what your SR’s are going through.
This whole experience is a huge roller coaster of emotions. We have been where you are now and we know what you are feeling. Just remember you are stronger than you feel… You raised a young Man or Woman who was willing to put duty to country over self. They are strong enough to take on this challenge because they were shown strength from home! You have raised the 1%!! Be proud of that and welcome to the Family!!

TLDR:

The Expected timeline will look like this
Day 0 -- Travel, Arrival and "I'm Here" scripted phone call
Day 1-14 -- ROM (Restriction of Movement/ Quarantine-- Lots of studying and waiting)
Day 15-21 Arrive Onboard RTC and begin P-days (P-days- Initial Processing Days) including 2 days of P-hold (Weekend)
Day 21-- Complete P days. (Initial PFT & Run)
Day 22-- Begin training and mail form letter out. Look for it to arrive around 1-2 weeks later)
All of this is assuming no exposure to COVID with additional ROM
Training typically occurs Monday - Friday but we have heard rumors that Saturday’s are now training days as well.
Normal PIR will be 8 Fridays after departure from Home but it can be less by 1 but it can be extended by ???? (lots!!) It just depends on how many times they get caught in the “Ring of Fire” but do not get COVID. IF they get COVID, Once they are recovered they will not be removed from training again even if they are in the “Ring of Fire”. (so there is that small silver lining for our moms who’s kids have gotten sick)

Please note the upcoming changes noted Below from RTC.

From Recruit Training Command - 14 August 2020

Beginning August 21, U.S. Navy Recruits will spend 14-days in a restriction of movement (ROM) status at Fort McCoy, a U.S. Army training center in western Wisconsin, before being transported to Recruit Training Command (RTC) in Great Lakes, Illinois, to begin training.

In July, RTC increased shipping to over 1,200 recruits per week. To accommodate the increased volume of recruits, ROM is taking place at multiple Gurnee, Illinois, area hotels. Moving ROM to Fort McCoy ensures long-term safety and security of recruits, consolidating support staff in one location, and ensures RTC’s perpetual effort to be good stewards of government funds while continuing to execute the essential task of training the Navy’s newest Sailors. RTC continues to protect the welfare of its recruits and staff and continues to work with medical experts to ensure it can train while responding to and preventing transmission of the coronavirus.

Recruits executing ROM at Fort McCoy will have similar living quarters as those available at RTC. Recruits will be provided Navy study materials during their ROM and will able to bring reading material with them to Fort McCoy. They will also be allowed to bring one small electronic gaming device, as long as it is not Wi-Fi or cellular enabled, and must not have a camera.

Recruits at Fort McCoy will have access to medical personnel. While recruits will be allowed to call home shortly after arrival, they will not have access to cell phones for the duration of their training at RTC. Any recruit with a change to their medical or training status is allowed to contact their loved ones. A lack of contact from a recruit indicates they remain in a normal training status.

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Comment by belovedbyHim on August 11, 2020 at 7:59pm

Navymom0928-- My pleasure.

Comment by Shoosh on August 12, 2020 at 10:23am

This is such great and helpful information. Thank you so much!! I love the idea of a voicemail :) The items that they can bring with them, like books/bible/e-reader, should they carry a small backpack?

Comment by Chipmunk on August 12, 2020 at 12:46pm

Shoosh - they should be issued a backpack at BC. My son's at least was a nice one and as far as I know he is still using it almost daily after 3 years!

Beloved probably reminds you to make sure she has her phone charger. My son was able to take a small sized memo sized / breast pocket sized notebook and an inexpensive mechanical pencil with him that we wrote phone #s and addresses in. The notebook was given to him at the recruiter's office by a retired Navy man. My son has multiple of those and he calls them his "pocket brains". It is where he keeps all his notes and such. 

Also, if she wants a watch or a wallet to keep IDs in they both need to be solid black. Black is the fall back color on any accessories as far as I know. 

Comment by belovedbyHim on August 12, 2020 at 6:54pm

I would take stuff in a small drawstring bag that she won't mind dumping later on if she needs to.  Same for the books-- Paperback is best (They can be donated to the Navy (maybe??) or left in the airport for another traveler to pick up and read.  At least that's what we did pre-COVID... Sticker on the front letting folks know they were welcome to take the book to read and pass on to someone else) or an e-reader that she can carry easily.  With an E-reader she can have several books to read depending on how fast of a reader she is.  She will want to have a small Bible, if she's planning to take one, That is NOT electronic!!  They make a military one that you can order or check your local book shop.  You want a Pocket sized NOT a study Bible sized!! Space is Limited.  The Bible is where she can place addresses, phone #'s and your note so they don't end up sealed in the Box where she won't have access to them. 
I am happy that the information is helpful.  That is the goal!! (Oh and I will be posting the Above ^ on the Main FB page since it may help others who don't necessarily come here and read all the comments. Just in case you get deja vu...

Comment by Chipmunk on August 12, 2020 at 7:37pm

belovedbyHim - Great idea to put numbers and addresses in the pocket Bible. At my son's MEPS they had an entire collection all for the different branches of service. So, they might be able to get one there, and transfer from a notepaper if not able to get it beforehand.

Comment by belovedbyHim on August 12, 2020 at 7:59pm

Chipmunk -- That's where we saw them!!! I knew there was somewhere that we got our sons for free!!  If they can transfer it from the notebook paper that's great but they can also fold the paper up smallish and just smash it inside the bible itself.  The letter should be shortish! (Just 1 page long) so it should fit.  It is great if you send a longer note but they may not be as easily able to keep it with them as a single page.

Comment by DsMom2020 on August 21, 2020 at 12:19am
Thank you! Packed full of most helpful info. Really reduces my anxiety to know what to expect.
Comment by belovedbyHim on August 21, 2020 at 12:22am

DavesMom2020 -- My Honor.  I'm glad it helps some.

Comment by Tlg552000 on August 26, 2020 at 2:57pm

Hello Everyone.  I am glad to be a part of the group.  My granddaughter, who is like a daughter to me swiped out n yesterday.  We received her call as she arrived.  Just a bit anxious to know when wee will be able to write her.  I am not alarmed by the fact that she will be yelled at as she attended school in Trinidad and that was the norm.   It simply feels different without her around the house at this point.  I do want to encourage everyone though by letting you know that most of our children were adamant about choosing this career and they are doing what they desire.  Continue to pray for them all.

Comment by belovedbyHim on August 26, 2020 at 4:30pm

Tlg552000-- Welcome!! You are welcome to comment on here but it is just the blog and not as active as the main Bootcamp page.  https://navyformoms.ning.com/group/bootcampmoms You may want to join that page as well since there will be a larger support pool to help you through.  Yes they were adamant about joining and mine has bee in for 7 years now and plans to stay as long as they'll pay him!  He's content so I am.

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