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In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).
**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED. Vaccinations still required.
**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.
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I got a letter last night but no call, I hope they did well on their test yesterday. My son does not give much info about what they are doing so the info you get is good and keeps me calm. This letter wash the most different since he left, I saw the transformation from boy to man in this last letter, it put me in tears. We could do Ribbons if you want I thin that would be nice to wear at the PIR. How is P doing, did you get another letter or call? Soon we will be seeing them. Do you live in Chicago? We do so we will be driving from home, My sons girlfriend is going to meet us and drive with us. Talk to you soon. Jackie
Lori, I think a lot of these kids joined in response to the lack of jobs, and secondarily, to their own lack of self-discipline, which makes it difficult to succeed in anything that requires persistence. And perhaps because these kids are boys, they are still searching for the limits of the new dad figures. Just how much can I get away with? Do I really have to do what he says? Maybe there are exceptions to the rules- if I keep pushing maybe I'll be the one who comes out on top instead of the RDC. If a kid spends his life under the thumb of an unreasonable parent, it is natural to engage in a power struggle, even if he knows intellectually that there is no way to win. I was well into my 40's before I realized that, sometimes, to give in, is to win. I had to decide which 'prize' I wanted most.
I don't really know how much the family history of military service influenced A. My dad died when A. was 5, so he never had the experience, like I did, of sitting with Dad and his yearbook, and talking about his classmates and their life together. I know that many of the people A. met in the course of different jobs that he came to respect and like, had military service backgrounds. I think a part of him wants to be a dignified, patriotic person worthy of respect, who contributes something to others, as well as the fun loving rover boy he already is.
This BC experience is the absolute antithesis to his previous life. Not one thing is the same or even similar. He asks himself everyday why he is there, but some of that is the startling difference to his old life. My hope is that he doesn't take the harshness of the treatment to heart, and have it permanently affect him. I think about the story of the Samoan tree killers - people who could yell at a tree for 30 days, and it would die. Hopefully, it's just a story.
Boy, you know, Lori, Div 200 is having a lot of trouble working as a team and/or getting anything much right, according to A. I don't know if this affects P.'s Div, but A. did say that a bunch of RDCs from elsewhere in the building gathered all their problem children together for ITE one day. If you want to send some comics, I'd advise getting them off the internet (I can't figure out how to do it, but maybe you can), and printing them on regular paper so the RDCs can't really see what it is. I have so many issues with this antiquated system of "Disipline" that I can't even begin to speak normally about it. Maybe they could start by looking up the word disipline in the bloody dictionary! Everybody on my dad's side of the family since 1833 were West Pointers (except Grandaddy who graduated Annapolis, and lost his class ring over the side of the boat on his ensign cruise, and switched to the Army), so my resentment of this goes back through the family a long way. Oh well - too bad, so sad for me - not my decision!
Tina
Can I tell you how angry I am about this comics thing? Are they serious that this is going to help the recruit do better, achieve more? What a crock.
Tina
I just got a phone 15min call from James at boot camp -- he could talk as long as his RDC (Navy drill sergeant) was out of the room -- as soon as he returned James had to hang up. Here is what he said:
The food is great
He likes the structure of Boot Camp
He asked me to pray for him and have others pray for him becasue he is worried he will get washed out
He has a cold and did not go to sick-call like some of the others because it would set him back to a later graduation date or washed him out -- he was right as others who did go to sick call did wash out
He is trying real hard to please his RDC
In his group that started 3 weeks ago with 76 and now they are down to 63 because of wash outs
He is worried he will not pass some of the learning test (becasue of his learning disabilities) he needs to pass BC
He is upbeat and said he thinks he can make it
He passed the first round of running, swimming, push-ups, sit-ups but has three more rounds to go but that looks good and he did it ebven with a cold
He says his RDC's are pretty laid back compared to others
He wanted to keep talking for every second he could
He made two friends but one of them just washed out yesterday for not making his bed
He says he needs to sleep less so he can study more
He says he now has 4 uninforms dress-white, camo, blue, grey
He has been given extra duties (like delivering mail to washouts that he enjoys but it causes him to misw some classes
He really frightened he will not pass
I asked him if I should buy my plane ticks to watch him graduate on the Thursday the 27th of May and he said yes
It was a long talk so if you have any questions -- ask
Cool -- I just found out today that he is in ship14 div 199. I have not got a box or a letter but I had his recruiter look him up on the navy website. He arrive on the evening of April 7
Ha-ha, this is funny but don't worry as far as something going wrong. From everything I've heard, they have to call if something goes wrong. I know that they lost some for medical reasons, some got sent back to the beginning of boat camp and some were sent home. There is a place called "ship 5" that they hold them in if they are being sent home for whatever reason and it's also where they go while they wait for their next orders. if you go to bootcamp.navy.mil, they have lots of information on frequently asked questions and stuff like that. As far as BS as a general"rule", they go the Thurs/Fri before PIR. My son said they don't tell them anything until they need to know. According to my son and I've seen others say on here that the RDC's for his division are the toughest they have. Gotta love that.
I'm not sure about BS should be the 13th but when he called he wasn't sure. Their division has had lots of trouble, they started out with 83 and last I heard they were down to 69, so they are behind everyone else. I thought the same thing about getting calls on Sunday but when he did call it was a Saturday. A lot of people from div 190 which is the sister division to my son got their call on the Weds before we did. So there really doesn't seem to be a method other than wait and wait some more. UGH
I hear you on stalking the mailman. I made a special trip home one day just to check the mail and it was actually the day I got my first letter so boy was a I glad I did. The letter come more frequently after the first one. I don't think there is any method to the phone calls. I'm almost afraid to get one now, before the "I'm a sailor call", It's getting too close, I'm afraid something is going to go wrong.
Hi Lori, thanks for "friending" me. Yes, we are staying there the whole time. My son is grad n go to Great Lakes so hopefully, he'll get to spend the whole weekend with us and since it was the closest to the base I thought that was the best option. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Have you talked to your son yet? A week ago Saturday was the first time I had talked to my son and he had been there almost four weeks at that point. Lots of waiting.
Thank you very much. Johns on his way to Meps and tomorrow he leaves from JAX, Fl. for GLs. Please thank your son for joining the navy. We have great kids!!
Lori, you know it - I am getting used to both emotions on and off everyday. The rollercoster ride of bootcamp. Good thing for N4Ms!! I seem to have spent more time on the computer this last week then over the last ten years! Gee - I wonder why???
Lori, boy do I understand getting the form letter how exciting those three lines can be. I have already booked all my arrangements for PIR because I was too worried I was going to find something. They say to book "refundable" airline tickets because the PIR could change. We are not flying a commercial airline so I didn't have to worry about that. I would just suggest knowing what the cancellation policy of the hotel is, is important. I booked our room at the Red Carpet Inn, it's in the brochure that we got with our form letter, $56 a night and closest to the base 1.5 miles, free shuttle to graduation. For me doing this made it seem more more real. Like "I'm gonna see my son soon". Hang onto that form letter and read it over and over again, I still do and I got it two weeks ago.
cathy
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Link to Navy Speak - Navy Terms & Acronyms: Navy Speak
All Hands Magazine's full length documentary "Making a Sailor": This video follows four recruits through Boot Camp in the spring of 2018 who were assigned to DIV 229, an integrated division, which had PIR on 05/25/2018.
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**UPDATE 4/26/2022** Effective with the May 6, 2022 PIR 4 guests will be allowed. Still must be fully vaccinated to attend.
**UPDATE as of 11/10/2022 PIR vaccination is no longer required.
**UPDATE 7/29/2021** You now must be fully vaccinated in order to attend PIR:
In light of observed changes and impact of the Coronavirus Delta Variant and out of an abundance of caution for our recruits, Sailors, staff, and guests, Recruit Training Command is restricting Pass-in-Review (recruit graduation) to ONLY fully immunized guests (14-days post final COVID vaccination dose).
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**UPDATE 8/25/2022 - MASK MANDATE IS LIFTED. Vaccinations still required.
**UPDATE 11/10/22 PIR - Vaccinations no longer required.
RESUMING LIVE PIR - 8/13/2021
Please note! Changes to this guide happened in October 2017. Tickets are now issued for all guests, and all guests must have a ticket to enter base. A separate parking pass is no longer needed to drive on to base for parking.
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I got a letter last night but no call, I hope they did well on their test yesterday. My son does not give much info about what they are doing so the info you get is good and keeps me calm. This letter wash the most different since he left, I saw the transformation from boy to man in this last letter, it put me in tears. We could do Ribbons if you want I thin that would be nice to wear at the PIR. How is P doing, did you get another letter or call? Soon we will be seeing them. Do you live in Chicago? We do so we will be driving from home, My sons girlfriend is going to meet us and drive with us. Talk to you soon. Jackie
I don't really know how much the family history of military service influenced A. My dad died when A. was 5, so he never had the experience, like I did, of sitting with Dad and his yearbook, and talking about his classmates and their life together. I know that many of the people A. met in the course of different jobs that he came to respect and like, had military service backgrounds. I think a part of him wants to be a dignified, patriotic person worthy of respect, who contributes something to others, as well as the fun loving rover boy he already is.
This BC experience is the absolute antithesis to his previous life. Not one thing is the same or even similar. He asks himself everyday why he is there, but some of that is the startling difference to his old life. My hope is that he doesn't take the harshness of the treatment to heart, and have it permanently affect him. I think about the story of the Samoan tree killers - people who could yell at a tree for 30 days, and it would die. Hopefully, it's just a story.
Tina
Tina
The food is great
He likes the structure of Boot Camp
He asked me to pray for him and have others pray for him becasue he is worried he will get washed out
He has a cold and did not go to sick-call like some of the others because it would set him back to a later graduation date or washed him out -- he was right as others who did go to sick call did wash out
He is trying real hard to please his RDC
In his group that started 3 weeks ago with 76 and now they are down to 63 because of wash outs
He is worried he will not pass some of the learning test (becasue of his learning disabilities) he needs to pass BC
He is upbeat and said he thinks he can make it
He passed the first round of running, swimming, push-ups, sit-ups but has three more rounds to go but that looks good and he did it ebven with a cold
He says his RDC's are pretty laid back compared to others
He wanted to keep talking for every second he could
He made two friends but one of them just washed out yesterday for not making his bed
He says he needs to sleep less so he can study more
He says he now has 4 uninforms dress-white, camo, blue, grey
He has been given extra duties (like delivering mail to washouts that he enjoys but it causes him to misw some classes
He really frightened he will not pass
I asked him if I should buy my plane ticks to watch him graduate on the Thursday the 27th of May and he said yes
It was a long talk so if you have any questions -- ask
cathy
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