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I don't think he'll be starting on the 29th either considering the next class is about to start on the 22nd... That might just be his report date. If he's already done hold in SC, he'll probably still have 2 months of hold here in NY. Then again, who knows with the Navy.
My husband did live in SC and NY but he moved up here right after power grad. I moved up with him when he got to NY since i needed to finish my degree.
When he does start, seriously recommend to him not to go in on the weekend during the first part. That's his given time to cool down and get out of that stressful place. If he did well already, it's likely he'll be at the point he needs to be at by the end of the day (they have to get 25 points a day and some check outs are worth more than that on their own). As long as he shows that he's trying really hard, he won't fail out. Oh, and on Fridays they usually get out by 430. And if he's near the top of his class, he gets to choose 2 days a week that he can come home 2 hours early. Most of them pick that day as friday so he could get out at 130 instead (I know that's not 2 hours but that's what our roommate ends up doing... yeah idk either).
lol, it's a good thing to be tiny sometimes i guess.. LOL he actually hit one of the guys on the head with the rifle that morning cause his wedding ring gets in the way!
Hey Nicole! I saw your comment on the dream sheet discussion... How long of a projected T-Track was Sean given? He's in A school, right? When will he graduate? Just wondering :)
Aaron graduates A school first weekend in September, and was told about two months for T-Track...
Girl, I hear ya!! I got the “you’re smothering me” crap too only the words directed at me were much more mean, so consider yourself lucky I guess lol. Honestly, I don’t have any words of wisdom that will make you feel any better and truly wish I did. Here’s what I don’t get, in bootcamp our letters and words of encouragement were amazing to them. I don’t know how many times I was told how fabulous I am and how I “got him through bootcamp.” So why now when those same words of encouragement are being used is it considered smothering?? I wish someone could answer that one for me.
I'm gonna personal message you because I feel a rant coming on.
Wow! You must be really proud of your boyfriend. I am so glad that he is doing so well with the coursework. I am expecting my "I'm a sailor" call any day now. I am really looking forward to next week and PIR! Be glad you aren't coming until January, that way you will miss the hot summer months! I have been told that it is always roasting in SC. But at least there is the beach breeze! Hope everything goes great with getting loose ends tied up in PA. And please let me know if there's anything you learn about EM rate challenges!
Tell me about it! I'm such a planner too! And I've quickly learned there's no planning in the Navy lol damn them lol. If nothing else I'm learning patience beyond anything I'd learn in the civilian world that's for sure.
Oh yeah Christmas leave is legit. I think they basically shut down the place then and basically everyone gets granted their leave. So that’ll be nice.
I hear ya on being a city girl. You’ll definitely like Charleston than. I didn’t see North Charleston so I can’t help you there. But GC did remind me of the Poconos (minus the mountains) a little bit now that you mention it. It was like open field, strip mall, small pond, open field, gas station, convenience store, houses. That about covered it lol. But I honestly only saw a very small portion of GC so I’m probably not the best overall judge.
I can’t really help you in the job department but you might want to start that process before you get there if you’re not looking to stay in the restaurant biz. I wouldn’t wait for the college grad hires (depending on your field of course). I’d want to beat the recent college grads to the punch. Plus you may not be staying in SC too long (prototype) so would you really want to wait until spring to start the process? If your bf goes to NY for Prototype will you follow him there? Or is your plan just to move to SC to move to SC? It’s a tough call I know. Believe me I thought I had it all planned out myself but there are so many different scenarios and what ifs it’s frustrating.
Also, why not just make him your “roommate” on the apt lease or whatever. I’m sure he could pick up the keys and help move things in without signing a limited power of attorney over to him. The landlord may even just be fine with you saying hey my bf is gonna pick up the keys for me. But hey this is all just my two cents :)
What is the limited power of attorney thing? Were you planning to live with him on base? I thought you had to be married to do that. Or were you thinking of getting your own place? I saw plenty of apts available in the Charleston area. It’s only about 30 mins from base and there are a million restaurants and places for you to find work in the downtown. It seemed like a much more fun area compared to GC and since it’s not that far from base I thought it would be the best of both worlds.
Smart thinking with banking your money. That definitely is the way to do it. It sounds like you’ll be pretty set by Jan. But I don’t think you’d have too big a problem finding something in the restaurant biz once you got there. Also, things are definitely cheaper down there. Just an example, out at a bar a beer was about $2 or $3 which is just insane compared to Philly prices. I don’t know how it is in the Poconos. So that is a huge plus. Rent seemed about comparable but the places are probably a little bigger compared to what you get for your money up here.
I forgot about him having all the leave time during the holidays too so that’ll be good for you guys. But also don’t bank on him always getting granted his leave. My guy expected to take at least 2 weeks after A School and he thought he could take it when he wanted as long as Power School hadn’t started yet and that’s not the case. He’s only allowed 10 days immediately following A School grad. He’s not happy about it.
I finally talked to him Friday! It was a good convo. He apologized for blowing up on me. We’re still on very much rocky ground and I’m not exactly sure where we stand but it was a good talk. For now, I’ll just take having had a good talk :)
Hey! My husband is in boot camp and just got the EM rate, how is everything going with your husband? How are you liking GC? Just thought I would say hi!
Thanks Nicole, I'm hoping he returns to "normal" soon and things get better. Because I do really like him and I've been saying I'm in it for the long haul. So I'll just have to wait and see.
Moving down there in Jan. would be a good time to go and get away from the snowy Poconos. Your bf should be in Power School by then right? Could you move before Jan. when he may be on t-track? It may be a little easier to move when his schedule is less demanding. That was my previous thought anyway. But you won't know if or how long he'd be on t-track for awhile so for your planning purposes it doesn't help much. And I'm obviously not speaking from experience here lol so don't mind me. Just a thought.
Also, moving in Jan. gives you plenty of time to calm your nerves a bit and become less anxious about the move. It’ll also give you time to decide if the move is right for you and your relationship since he’ll be plenty deep into school by then. So I’d say you’re doing it the “right” way lol.
Yeah it sucked to have to wait until Phase 3 to go visit but it was worth it in the end. They can have weekend overnights and don’t need permission in Phase 3. You can only see him on the weekend so if you can steal even just a couple days away from work it would be great. I flew down Friday afternoon and returned Monday. But flying home Sunday night would have been fine since they have study hours Sunday anyway. Thats awesome you’ll be moving down there. It’s definitely Southern which just made me laugh since I’m such a Northeasterner. I liked Charleston but GC was a little too country for me lol.
As far as me moving there, that’s complicated. I met my guy randomly 3 weeks before he left for bootcamp when I took a weekend trip to Boston (where he’s from). We clicked in one weekend and then talked constantly until he left. We really got to “know” each other through the bootcamp letters and once he was out it seemed like there was definitely a future there. He talked about a lot of future relationship things that took me by surprise but I was onboard and definitely wanted to pursue things with him. When I visited we discussed a possibility of me moving to SC (I work from home so no issue there) and we were both on the same relationship page. Well a week or so after I returned is when he got weird and angry. We haven’t really spoken in weeks and the last time we talked he flipped out on me. So things may pretty much be over for us. I honestly have no idea where we stand. But I know I won’t be moving there anytime soon lol. It sucks because we seemed to be on a really good track and then out of nowhere it’s over? So weird and complicated.
I’ve stopped all contact since that’s what set him off so I just wait for him to contact me. The weekends are the only time there’s even an option of that happening. So I wait...but I’m not holding my breath. It truly does suck though all around. Sorry to vent but as you can tell I’m frustrated beyond belief with the situation.
You are too funny lolol. I feel the same way sometimes. I read things and I just shake my head especially since I have a good 10 years on some of these girls. That's hilarious. But I will give them credit, there's no shot in hell I would have upped and moved across the country for my boyfriend when I was 18! So good for them I guess lol. I've also noticed (and so has my guy) that it's a North/South thing. Very different mentalities I think. And people from the Northeast I think are even more rare.
Do you plan to make a trip down to Charleston? I visited about a month ago (I didn't go to PIR) and had a great time. I went the first weekend of Phase 3 which also seemed like one of the better weekends to go. Let me know if you're planning a visit and need any suggestions on places to stay or see.
Wow Nicole from the Jersey shore to the Poconos is definitely a change lol! What part of Jersey are you from? I'm gonna guess North Jersey since you said NY was your "city" lol. I'm a South Jersey girl myself. I hit the Sea Isle area when I go to the shore. But I used to work at two different newspapers in Southern (farmland) Jersey. Jersey's nice but I have to admit I like staying on the PA side of the bridge lolol.
Where did you go to school? I went to University of Delaware and majored in English-Journalism. It is nice to see someone "older" on this site. I feel like I'm 50 sometimes on here compared to all the 18 yr olds lol.
It sounds like your boyfriend should sail though A School if he already has a degree in physics and math. You guys should be good to go! I'm just counting the days until it's over right now.
Hey Nicole,
I love the Poconos. I try to get up there at least once a winter to go skiing. Do you ski? We usually go to the Lake Harmony or Lake Naomi areas. It's so pretty up there. I live outside Philly in the burbs. But believe me if I could afford it I'd live in Center City in a heartbeat! Do you ever make it down to the city?
My sailor is a little more than halfway through A School. He finishes the end of July. The beginning of A School was cake for him so hopefuly it'll be the same for your guy. Right now though is a different story. I think he's having a harder time in the class he has right now. His study hours have increased a lot and he's extremely stressed. Needless to say we aren't doing so well right now. I've been patient and understanding and by no means needy or demanding his attention.We're older, I'm 28, he's 25, so I have some relationship experience under my belt lol. But I still wasn't prepared for the military experience lol. I decided to go back to the bootcamp days and go back to sending him letters and cards to show him my support from afar. And that kinda backfired and he turned angry for basically no reason. I know he's just stressed out and it has nothing to do with me but it still sucks.We don't talk much anymore if at all. But he did text me the other day saying he sent me a letter explaining everything. So we'll see what that says. I hope I'm not freaking you out at all. I don't think my experience with A School is the norm at all.A lot of the other girls seem to be doing fine. So don't take what I'm saying too much to heart. Just keep the lines of communication open with your guy. I think communication is the key thing to get through Nuke School. It's going to be stressful no doubt but if the communication is there, all should be good.
Let me know if I can answer any questions for you. I don't know much but I'll answer what I can. This is also my first military experience so I guess I'll have to wait and see how it turns out.
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I don't think he'll be starting on the 29th either considering the next class is about to start on the 22nd... That might just be his report date. If he's already done hold in SC, he'll probably still have 2 months of hold here in NY. Then again, who knows with the Navy.
My husband did live in SC and NY but he moved up here right after power grad. I moved up with him when he got to NY since i needed to finish my degree.
When he does start, seriously recommend to him not to go in on the weekend during the first part. That's his given time to cool down and get out of that stressful place. If he did well already, it's likely he'll be at the point he needs to be at by the end of the day (they have to get 25 points a day and some check outs are worth more than that on their own). As long as he shows that he's trying really hard, he won't fail out. Oh, and on Fridays they usually get out by 430. And if he's near the top of his class, he gets to choose 2 days a week that he can come home 2 hours early. Most of them pick that day as friday so he could get out at 130 instead (I know that's not 2 hours but that's what our roommate ends up doing... yeah idk either).
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Aaron graduates A school first weekend in September, and was told about two months for T-Track...
I'm gonna personal message you because I feel a rant coming on.
I hear ya on being a city girl. You’ll definitely like Charleston than. I didn’t see North Charleston so I can’t help you there. But GC did remind me of the Poconos (minus the mountains) a little bit now that you mention it. It was like open field, strip mall, small pond, open field, gas station, convenience store, houses. That about covered it lol. But I honestly only saw a very small portion of GC so I’m probably not the best overall judge.
I can’t really help you in the job department but you might want to start that process before you get there if you’re not looking to stay in the restaurant biz. I wouldn’t wait for the college grad hires (depending on your field of course). I’d want to beat the recent college grads to the punch. Plus you may not be staying in SC too long (prototype) so would you really want to wait until spring to start the process? If your bf goes to NY for Prototype will you follow him there? Or is your plan just to move to SC to move to SC? It’s a tough call I know. Believe me I thought I had it all planned out myself but there are so many different scenarios and what ifs it’s frustrating.
Also, why not just make him your “roommate” on the apt lease or whatever. I’m sure he could pick up the keys and help move things in without signing a limited power of attorney over to him. The landlord may even just be fine with you saying hey my bf is gonna pick up the keys for me. But hey this is all just my two cents :)
Smart thinking with banking your money. That definitely is the way to do it. It sounds like you’ll be pretty set by Jan. But I don’t think you’d have too big a problem finding something in the restaurant biz once you got there. Also, things are definitely cheaper down there. Just an example, out at a bar a beer was about $2 or $3 which is just insane compared to Philly prices. I don’t know how it is in the Poconos. So that is a huge plus. Rent seemed about comparable but the places are probably a little bigger compared to what you get for your money up here.
I forgot about him having all the leave time during the holidays too so that’ll be good for you guys. But also don’t bank on him always getting granted his leave. My guy expected to take at least 2 weeks after A School and he thought he could take it when he wanted as long as Power School hadn’t started yet and that’s not the case. He’s only allowed 10 days immediately following A School grad. He’s not happy about it.
I finally talked to him Friday! It was a good convo. He apologized for blowing up on me. We’re still on very much rocky ground and I’m not exactly sure where we stand but it was a good talk. For now, I’ll just take having had a good talk :)
Moving down there in Jan. would be a good time to go and get away from the snowy Poconos. Your bf should be in Power School by then right? Could you move before Jan. when he may be on t-track? It may be a little easier to move when his schedule is less demanding. That was my previous thought anyway. But you won't know if or how long he'd be on t-track for awhile so for your planning purposes it doesn't help much. And I'm obviously not speaking from experience here lol so don't mind me. Just a thought.
Also, moving in Jan. gives you plenty of time to calm your nerves a bit and become less anxious about the move. It’ll also give you time to decide if the move is right for you and your relationship since he’ll be plenty deep into school by then. So I’d say you’re doing it the “right” way lol.
As far as me moving there, that’s complicated. I met my guy randomly 3 weeks before he left for bootcamp when I took a weekend trip to Boston (where he’s from). We clicked in one weekend and then talked constantly until he left. We really got to “know” each other through the bootcamp letters and once he was out it seemed like there was definitely a future there. He talked about a lot of future relationship things that took me by surprise but I was onboard and definitely wanted to pursue things with him. When I visited we discussed a possibility of me moving to SC (I work from home so no issue there) and we were both on the same relationship page. Well a week or so after I returned is when he got weird and angry. We haven’t really spoken in weeks and the last time we talked he flipped out on me. So things may pretty much be over for us. I honestly have no idea where we stand. But I know I won’t be moving there anytime soon lol. It sucks because we seemed to be on a really good track and then out of nowhere it’s over? So weird and complicated.
I’ve stopped all contact since that’s what set him off so I just wait for him to contact me. The weekends are the only time there’s even an option of that happening. So I wait...but I’m not holding my breath. It truly does suck though all around. Sorry to vent but as you can tell I’m frustrated beyond belief with the situation.
Do you plan to make a trip down to Charleston? I visited about a month ago (I didn't go to PIR) and had a great time. I went the first weekend of Phase 3 which also seemed like one of the better weekends to go. Let me know if you're planning a visit and need any suggestions on places to stay or see.
Where did you go to school? I went to University of Delaware and majored in English-Journalism. It is nice to see someone "older" on this site. I feel like I'm 50 sometimes on here compared to all the 18 yr olds lol.
It sounds like your boyfriend should sail though A School if he already has a degree in physics and math. You guys should be good to go! I'm just counting the days until it's over right now.
Talk to you soon.
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I love the Poconos. I try to get up there at least once a winter to go skiing. Do you ski? We usually go to the Lake Harmony or Lake Naomi areas. It's so pretty up there. I live outside Philly in the burbs. But believe me if I could afford it I'd live in Center City in a heartbeat! Do you ever make it down to the city?
My sailor is a little more than halfway through A School. He finishes the end of July. The beginning of A School was cake for him so hopefuly it'll be the same for your guy. Right now though is a different story. I think he's having a harder time in the class he has right now. His study hours have increased a lot and he's extremely stressed. Needless to say we aren't doing so well right now. I've been patient and understanding and by no means needy or demanding his attention.We're older, I'm 28, he's 25, so I have some relationship experience under my belt lol. But I still wasn't prepared for the military experience lol. I decided to go back to the bootcamp days and go back to sending him letters and cards to show him my support from afar. And that kinda backfired and he turned angry for basically no reason. I know he's just stressed out and it has nothing to do with me but it still sucks.We don't talk much anymore if at all. But he did text me the other day saying he sent me a letter explaining everything. So we'll see what that says. I hope I'm not freaking you out at all. I don't think my experience with A School is the norm at all.A lot of the other girls seem to be doing fine. So don't take what I'm saying too much to heart. Just keep the lines of communication open with your guy. I think communication is the key thing to get through Nuke School. It's going to be stressful no doubt but if the communication is there, all should be good.
Let me know if I can answer any questions for you. I don't know much but I'll answer what I can. This is also my first military experience so I guess I'll have to wait and see how it turns out.