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My son has been ASMO --Anyone know what to expect now?
We received a brief phone call from my son that he was being held back (expect a letter-- yeah, right). Anyway, I called the recruiter and she said they were informed he has been ASMO'd and it's probably just a little problem. She gave me the phone number to Great Lakes who were pleased to tell me they can tell me nothing.
Naturally I don't have any mail yet-- so anyone out there been through this can can tell me what to expect now? He's been gone about one month.
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Permalink Reply by lemonelephant on
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ASMO'd means that an assignment memorandum has been used; it's a fancy way to say that there was an administrative decision to set him back in training in order for him to improve in one or more areas. You will have to wait on that letter for more details of what happened and when his new PIR date is, which may be just one week later or two or more weeks later. The typical reasons for being ASMO'd would be one of the following: failing a training requirement (academic, swimming, or PFA), a medical condition, or a disciplinary action for something that was not serious enough for him to be sent to SEPS (Ship 5) and sent home. If it had been one of the first two reasons, he most likely would have indicated that in the call.
The RDC apparently feels he needs more time to become the kind of Sailor that you and the Navy know that he can be. All you can do is stay positive for him--I know its hard when you don't have much information, but that's all you can do at this point. Continue to write letters to the address you have and they will be forwarded to his new division. The new division will give him a chance for a fresh start, so encourage him to think of it that way and to take this chance to be the best that he can be and to be a team member and help those in his new division.
As soon as you know the new PIR date, be sure to join the group for that by going to http://www.navyformoms.com/forum/topics/groups-listed-by-pir-date.
You may also want to join, or at least check out, Boot Camp Moms, PIR Reference Information, and New Members Stop Here.
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Permalink Reply by Dad 4 SR on
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Thanks for your help -- but not really counting on a letter since the navy apparently has a don't bother dreaming about a letter from your sr policy.
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You are welcome. Your SR should be able to send a new form letter to you upon moving to the new division. You will not know the reason for the ASMO until the next actual letter, which will come sometime after Sunday since he probably was moved to a division that can still only write on Sunday. I know you are frustrated at not having information, but keep being supportive and realize that at least he is being given a chance to continue and to have PIR. The new ship and division number should be entered in the computer within 48 hours of the call you received, so try the recruiter again to see if he has the new information.
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nothing has changed...they still have paper, pens, and envelopes and are given time to write on Sundays. Though I have run across a few where parents have come on here and complained about not getting letters or information about their recruit...to only find out latter that the recruit didn't want any contact with their family (which is their choice, they are adults now). Wonder if that is the case with this SR?
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This is often the case. We became friends with the former Commander of NRD San Francisco. He said that they don't push the recruits to communicate with families because you don't really know the circumstances and relationships. It was really up to the recruits. He said that although data is not kept on this subject matter, just based on his experience, the percentage of recruits who join the Navy to get some distance from families is higher than you would expect. Of course, every sailor/recruit list people to contact in case of emergency.
Our former sailor went to OCS after finishing college at 22 - so he was older than most enlisted SRs. My husband and I felt he would communicate when he could or when he needed. We didn't write until we got his first letter. We didn't know we were suppose to worry. Maybe being uninformed has it's virtues. Our son was very specific as to size of envelope to use, color of ink, how to address the letter, what to include (or not include). color of paper.
I am sure I would feel differently if we had a 17 or 18 year old going to boot camp.
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FYI....CAPS MEANS YELLING!
Wondering why you are calling the recruiter...s/he can't do anything...it is up to your recruit to pass the swim test. Not being rude...but Navy...water...swim??
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KIMBERLEY, I hope your recruit passes his swim this week and has PIR this week because if he does not, then I really don't think that he will have PIR. Usually when a recruit makes it to the point that yours has, he is moved to the FIT division to train and pass the swim test and then go on to BS-21. If you do not get a call by the day before you plan to leave this week, call or email the PAO to check on his status. (You can contact the RTC Public Affairs Office at 847-688-2405 or via e-mail at rtc.pao@navy.mil.)
If he does not pass before his PIR, he will be given a chance every other day (MWF) to try to pass the swim and then he will go on to do BS-21 with the next division (a day or so later) and then go on to "A" School when transportation can be arranged and will not have PIR. He will not be able to call you until his status changes, which could be after he passes the swim or it could be the "I'm a Sailor!" call. They work with them and your SR will pass and be a Sailor at some point. Join the group, fit program (clickable link).
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Dad 4 SR,
I would like to ease your mind a bit. It's OK if he does not graduating ON TIME. Even if he misses his PIR, he'll still be a US Sailor. He will have plenty other milestones to celebrate. The important thing is that this is a condition that does not disqualify him from being in the Navy.
By the way, my son was going thru Officer Candidate School. He was awful at shining his shoes and he could never keep those stray threads from peeping out of the seams on his pants. He missed passing some personal locker inspection by one point - did great on the physical and academic stuff (he was one of the best in his class). His graduation was rolled back for 3 weeks (OCS graduation is about once a month as opposed to weekly for enlisted). My son was beyond irate and pissed. With his next class, he tutored a number of prior enlisted candidates on the academic stuff (especially math) and they help him with his ironing and shoe shining. He said he'd still be at OCS if it hadn't been for the "cooperation" - LOL. It all worked out. You have my permission to relay this to your son when you talk to him - tell him it's not unusual.
Thank your son in advance for me and good luck in the future.
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It is up to your son who he sends letters to, the Navy doesn't send the letters out for them. They are now adults, so if they choice not to send mail it is on them.
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