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My son is currently in A school and looked online and saw his orders are for Hawaii. He still has over a month left at A school. He intends to get married when he comes home. Does anyone know if those orders are considered his "hard orders" or if when he does get married that she will be able to go with him?
Any advice or anything on any of this is much appreciated.
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Permalink Reply by Anti M on
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Yes, these are hard orders. They will not be amended to include a dependent move.
Hawaii is considered OCONUS, outside the continental United States, which makes this complicated, as these are considered "overseas" orders. Sailors must be E-4 or above to qualify for command sponsorship for the dependent. That sponsorship is what pays for the travel, HHG shipment, and provides COLA (cost of living allowance) and BAH (housing allowance). Without command sponsorship, not only is the move out of pocket, but so is rent, utilities, etc. Also, non-sponsored dependents are on standby for medical and other services. They must go through overseas screening too.
The good news is when he makes E-4, if he is not one already from school, that he can put in a waiver asking for command sponsorship for her. This can take a few months to clear, but is often approved. If he is under E-4, he can try, but approval is unlikely. His new command might work with him before he is married, but probably will not.
Hawaii is the US, and she is free to move there, but it is crushingly expensive and the Navy will not help. I am not certain how the BAH would work, as every dependent qualifies for that, but I do know it gets complicated because of the sponsorship issue.
He needs to get a sponsor NOW (a more senior sailor who helps with transition and checking in, a mentor), and hopefully they can help him through the process.
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Thank you. They are considering getting married while she is visiting him in GL at the end of the month. Do you have any advice regarding that situation? He is not an E4. He should have approximately 2 weeks of A school left when she visits him. Is there a specific procedure manual on this sort of thing that he should look for. How would he find a sponsor?
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Thank you. They are considering getting married while she is visiting him in GL at the end of the month. Do you have any advice regarding that situation? He is not an E4. He should have approximately 2 weeks of A school left when she visits him. Is there a specific procedure manual on this sort of thing that he should look for. How would he find a sponsor?
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His orders will have a number or email for him to request a sponsor. The official website for his command would also have that information.
If they marry at Great Lakes, he is supposed to submit a special request chit to his chain of command, and take a class. Takes a week or two to get that done. Oh, they can still marry without permission, but it is frowned on at training commands. They like to screen for fraudulent marriages, and to make sure the new sailor knows about the benefits and responsibilities concerning dependents.
His orders are issued, they won't be changed at this point to accompanied even if they marry now. Because he is not an E-4, he still would not be eligible to move a dependent to Hawaii. It is a hard thing, but they can get through it. I know they must be very disappointed.
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