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Comment by Craig on September 30, 2010 at 7:42pm

Tony - I agree with not accepting a rating (job) that you truly don't want. Just like me, I have no interest at all being around a flight deck. However, if I were to go to MEPS in todays era, you best beleive I would have a couple other ratings that I would accept. I would either take those, or I would go to college. The bottomline is CTmomof3 son needs to have a game plan and what he is willing to accept or not.
He needs to understand to that he might be a QNJ anyways. It's just this crazy economy were in.

Comment by Craig on September 30, 2010 at 7:36pm

Clockard - Go ahead and use the logo all you want. Pass it around. Lets see how far it goes around.

Comment by Craig on September 30, 2010 at 7:30pm

CTmomof3 - When he takes the test, he needs to ask them for his indivual scores. I can tell you exactly which ratings he's qualified for or not. Here is a break down from my Excel file. You will see what the scores areas are, and how to read the profile sheet. You son really needs to write down the score. Remember, everyone will tell you the overall score their sailors received. That score truly is meaningless. It's only used as a minimum score used to get into the Navy.

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Comment by Deena/SHIP 06 DIV 944 on September 30, 2010 at 7:08pm

CTmom...where is your son at? what city...maybe if you cant get there we can have one of the Navy moms open a can of whoopass on that recruiter...he is really ticking me off!

Comment by CTmomof3 on September 30, 2010 at 5:34pm

Craig no I don't know his scores. He took a pracatice test a few weeks ago did well enought that they wanted him to go nuke but he's color blind so that wont work. He's taking the "for real" asvab tuesday as well as his physical. that's why I have so many question now before he goes.
Clockard I wish someone could go with him. His dad lives in VA and we live in CT. My mother bear protecting her young attitude is coming is starting to show so not sure if i would be much help nor do I think he's want me to go.. But can you bring a parent? Maybe his dad could come back. At what point do the have him...sign on the dotted line.. and at that point there is no going back. His dad has told him do not sign anything till you discuss it with me first.

Comment by ge3kswagTony on September 30, 2010 at 1:02pm

I know that everyone here for the most part has a little more experience with the Navy but just my 2 cents.......I think being " Job-Locked " isn't a bad thing at all. Some people just know what they want and will wait for it. That shouldn't be a negative but should be commended that you have a qualified person wiling to wait to join up, right?? There is a facebook page called " US Navy Life " and the recruiters will tell them they should be lucky to even join the " Worlds Greatest Navy! "

I don't quote agree, I wanted to be a CTN...I know what i want to do when I get out and I do a similar job now. Should I totally chg my life or should I take my skills and put them to great use in a rate I know i'll love and succeed in. I think if you want a specific rate and it's undermanned, wait for that rate. Don't experiment with rates if you know what you want out of life.

I am different than most since I'm 26 and joined after having 8yrs of networking/info sec experience. A lot of people are just out of high school and still confused as to what they want to do, so they are easily swayed but I think if you stick to your guns and you qualify, the classifier and recruiter will work with you.

Comment by Craig on September 30, 2010 at 11:36am

Ctmomof3 - Do you happen to have his ASVAB scores? Not the overall, but the seperate scores for each area? I actually wrote an Excel program that you enter those numbers, and it spits out which ratings your qualified for. Usually the stuff on the second page is ratings that he didn't qualify for, but is really close.

linxs - Totally agree with the MA rating. I had a guy on my website, married, kids, and the Navy sent him unaccompied to Japan for 24 months. Geez, his marriage was really hard. Sadly, 19 months into his tour (only 5 months left), they discharge him for a fradualent enlistement. It was soooo sad.

clockard - There are just so many spots in the classroom. Yea, they can be way undermanned, but there has to be a billet for them. Just imagine Nukes, there is only one trainer, how do you get everyone qual'd if they don't have the equipment? Fred understand the school house side, so I'll pass it onto him.

Comment by linxs321 on September 30, 2010 at 9:43am

I'm an MA1 and believe me, your son does NOT want to come into this rate!!! His first tour will most likely be 1 year in bahrain or IA and it doesn't get any better than that. Promotion is minimal and all ranks are overmanned. Tell him to stick to a technical job. IS is a good job, I have a lot of buddies from the MA rate that have converted to it and they seem to like it.

Comment by CTmomof3 on September 30, 2010 at 6:41am

Ok so what is going to happen (steps) at MEPS? My older son was way more outgoing and vocal and knew what he wanted (his recruiter was also better) and got what he wanted. and did this all on his own.This son is much more quiet and (way to trusting) and believes what people tell him so I'm trying to "arm" him with as much knowledge as possible so as to not be lead down the wrong path. Am I making sense? He's not really "job locked" as he wants CTN or CTR maybe IS I've noticed he's been looking at MA also. but i just have a bad feeling about the recruiter he's dealing with. The Navy will be his life and I don't want some recruiter trying to make his numbers mess that up. Are the MEPS people the ones that really "tell" him what available? If I remember correctly CTR was not shown to his brother at MEPS in the list of jobs but he had to ask for it when there. The way he put it "it was on a different screen not shown to everyone" I'm sorry for so many questions on the group but I know you all have the knowledge I/he needs.

Comment by Craig on September 30, 2010 at 1:23am

Fred - Thanks for posting that logo. All sailors need a dang rating logo. It's part of being a sailor. I really appreciate that.... I wonder why they don't promote the logo? I've never seen it before. Do you know of an offical website that shows all the rating logos?

LtTx - Man, there are two must go resturants. One is McGuires Irish Pub. It's downtown Pensacola. I bet they have $500K worth of $1 dollar bills stapled on the walls and ceiling. You haven't been to Pensacola, if you haven't been to McGuires. http://www.mcguiresirishpub.com/mcguires_pcola/

Second place is Peg Leg Pete's. It's located on Pensacola beach. The have webcams, so let us know when you will be there, and the time, then we will look for you waving at us.... The web cam can be seen at this address too... http://www.peglegpetes.com/

CTmomof3 - Being "Job-locked" is not really a good thing. The current recruiting environment he may not get a second chance to go back to MEPS. You've got to know these recruiter have 100's of people wanting to join the Navy, so your son will be kicked to the side. When clockard and my kids went to MEPS we had alot of power. I told my kid that he's got to get CTN, because it's the wave of the future, and he's a computer nerd. We stayed there till 9pm (we got there at 7am), and he got it.

Well, my nephew just joined (completed bootcamp Sept 2nd) and he wanted CTN. I let him know that he had to have a backup rating just in case CTN wasn't available if he truly wanted to be in the Navy. There was no CTN billets in the system, so his backup was he would take ANY CT job. This prove he wasn't "Job-Locked". I told the classifer that I would beat my nephew butt if he came out with anything outside the CT ratings. The classifer offered him CTT. Which is really a good rating too, not as cool as CTN, but just a tad below. But still great. So he's in "A" school as a "CTT".

Bottomline, he's got to have a backup rating. Have him tell the recruiter, that he isn't Job-locked, and he will accept any CT ratings that are available, but he would perfer CTN. Again, the way the economy is right now, these recruiters don't care. I've seen the change on many webforum I'm on, and have seen it on the two websites I own.

Lastly, don't let them say to him, take the Boatswain Mate rating (BM) now, and while you're waiting in DEP, we'll submit a DAR request to change it. Beleive me, it never happens. He's just needs to understand if the overall CT rating is not available, what is his next game plan. Maybe start College?

clockard - I totally love your tattoo... It looks cool. I never thought you'd do something like that.

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