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Comment by Craig on March 5, 2010 at 7:19pm

Most people get this part messed up so to clarify juni response, you must get a EP on the most recent evaluation period. Per the instruction for TIR waivers (EP) "COs/OICs maywaive up to 1 year of the required TIR for Sailors in paygrades E5 and E6 who received a promotion recommendation of ”Early
Promote” on their most recent observed periodic evaluation in their current paygrade." and "A Sailor recommended as ”Early Promote” on the most recent observed periodic evaluation who later receives a special, transfer, or detachment of reporting senior evaluation before the next advancement examination with a promotion recommendation other than Early Promote is no longer eligible for this waiver."
So in other words, if you are a hot runner and earn a EP eval, then, start to slack off later as a E5, then you are not eligible for the EP waiver for E6. Likewise, if your command is rushed to hurry up and write you transfer eval, and mistakenly marks you as a MP, then you lose your eligibliity.... Most sailors would never even look at that.... The keyword is "Most recent eval"

Comment by juni on March 5, 2010 at 3:30pm

I think it is 3 years unless you get an EP on the evals then you get a 12 month waiver.

Comment by Craig on March 5, 2010 at 11:43am

clockard, here is the sea/shore rotation list. Look at NAVADMIN 234/08 which is the current one. http://www.npc.navy.mil/ReferenceLibrary/Messages/
(Just pull down to 2008 and it will be in number order)

Comment by juni on March 5, 2010 at 12:48am

If they pick a DIRSUP billet they will go so sea.

You can double tour in Hawaii. We've got lots of friends who have done it because they like the area so much.

Comment by Craig on March 4, 2010 at 12:07pm

There is a list that shows the "Sea/Shore" rotation for all ratings. Since CTN's really don't go to see, it will show the "Conus/Oconus" rotation. I need to find that list, and once I do, I will forwared it to you. Remember, it's only a recommended list, and is not a requirement they do it like that.

Comment by Craig on March 4, 2010 at 2:24am

He should be very easy for him to get the same duty station. Understand, that there are many Unit Identification Codes (UIC) for the different jobs CTN's do. So you can actually go into a totally different billet (job position) and it would still be considered a transfer. The only time you can't double tour is suppose you were in Hawaii, you could not stay in Hawaii for another tour because it's considered a OCONUS location. There are waivers, but they don't like approving them.

Comment by LLovesmysailor on March 4, 2010 at 1:53am

I do have a question for you. My son has been offered a billet in Hawaii. Unfortunately, he just bought a townhouse in VA Beach because he had been told he would be there for 2 more years. He's trying to get out of going to Hawaii. (Yes, I know they will probably order him to see a shrink). My question is, how hard is it to get a detailer to change a billet and will this cause a problem with his career path?

Comment by LLovesmysailor on March 4, 2010 at 1:31am

My Nuke ( the sailor in the picture, taken at BC graduation) is an ET. He was given the E-4 because he helped the recuiter. When my son decided to follow the family tradition and go into the Navy, he took all his friends from high school with him. That's right 4 others went in with him. One into the Nuke program, two with SEAL contracts, one undesignated. There is some kind of Navy enlistment program that gave him credit for that. Also, there was an offer on the table to send him to the USNA (his dad's alma) but he turned it down.
My understanding from my CTN is that he met the recuiter when they came to take his brother to the airport. There were several months of conversations concerning a masters degree and what the Navy could offer him. In the end, he gave up an officer's commission in return for I know not what. But if what you are saying is true then that might explain the E-4. He still wants his Master Degree but needs to be an E-6 first. He will pursue that after he re-ups later this year.

Comment by Craig on March 4, 2010 at 1:19am

I know someone will ask, 1 year and 6 months = 18 months, but they backdate all advancements to 16 June or Dec 16 (depends on the time of the year) for a frocking date....

Comment by Craig on March 4, 2010 at 1:14am

Susan, that is exactly what I'm saying. If you graduate as a E3, then you only have to wait 6 month to meet the TIR requirement for E4. To make E5 you must have 1 year. So you can actually make E5 as a CTN as little as 15 months (1 year, 3 months), which as Ilovemytwosailor said "It ticks off the Nukes", because it's one of the quickest ratings to make advancement.

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