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Comment by Bandmom on February 14, 2017 at 11:43am

My son will be leaving for Great Lakes on April 4, from Des Moines Iowa.  After Boot Camp he will be attending AECF school.  He has a college degree and decided last fall to enlist.  this is all new to me, so will take any advice that you can give.

Comment by Allison on February 14, 2017 at 11:06am

DougsMom RDCs have a love/hate relationship with older recruits. He is more likely to be selected for a recruit leadership position and/or a performance division. It's extra important for him to be fit and memorize his dep packet because they will be much harder on him since he is older because he will be an example for his fellow, younger recruits to look up to. They will definitely expect more from him than the younger recruits. There is many older recruits, but prepare him to be reminded of a lot of high school type drama and a 13 year old boy's sense of humor (from both boys and girls) because a lot of recruits are immature. I actually asked my UC (an RDC not currently pushing boots, this one was in my separations unit when I was medically separated in Dec) about his feelings about older/younger recruits. The biggest plus RDCs give older recruits is they are more responsible and understand what it's like to work hard and never ask why they have to do something during training unlike the recruits fresh out of high school that may or may not have experienced the value of hard work and still have that teen urge for rebellion flowing through them. Basically, it's one less thing they have to hammer into the older recruit. The biggest negative is that older recruits are often set in their ways, meaning they are used to being in charge of their own routines and actions, and many have families, spouse and kids, that will either motivate them to push harder or leave them fumbling through bootcamp because they are more focused on worrying about them than becoming the best Sailor they can be.

Comment by Shelley (Doug's Mom) on February 13, 2017 at 7:46pm

My son will go to BC for AECF hoping for the FC rating in March 27, 2017. He's enlisted at 26 years old. Anyone have any thoughts on an older enlistee? There is no specific reason that he decided to enlist other than he felt he wasn't getting anywhere, had zero commitments, and wanted to do something meaningful with his life. Thanks!

Comment by Anti M on February 13, 2017 at 5:24pm

I was an ET, and went to a number of C schools, and not only after A school, but every time I had a PCS.  If he's an ET, then schools range from four weeks up to six months.  Often, they will go to a number of shorter C schools on related gear, in one location.  FC schools are often backed up with long wait periods, so sitting on hold for a few weeks or months could happen too.  

Comment by CherylG on February 13, 2017 at 3:52pm

Yeah I was thinking they would probably need to go so that they are fully trained, otherwise what happens if they get called up and can't do the job.. IDK guess we'll wait and see.. Thanks for you input!

Comment by Anti M on February 13, 2017 at 3:20pm

Cheryl, C school for reservists is a big maybe.  However, what ETs and FCs do in the fleet is tied to the C school they attend.  I'd be much more yes than no on this.  So probably.  There are an abundance of C schools for ETs, as they work on a wide variety of electronics.  FCs are much more limited, as there are only so many weapons systems. 

Comment by Allison on February 13, 2017 at 12:02pm

rx7red it's probably just because of numbers. The jobs require equal asvab scores, so one isn't really better than the other, so the change most likely had nothing to do with performance or anything, although sometimes (rarely from what we saw) people get switched during att because they clearly show a weakness/strength for either ET or FC. Since he qualified for the program, and therefore, both rates, they probably were just trying to balance out class sizes. Plus, there's an abundance of FCs at Great Lakes right now, we made friends with kids who had been there for six months after they completed FC A school.

For everyone, it's important to note that what your sailor puts as his/her preference in bootcamp is not necessarily the rate they will get in the program. My husband picked FC but was given ET when his orders came out. He was never actually a FC, so there was no switch, he just gave a preference which was verbally accepted at the time and was officially assigned something else.

Comment by Allison on February 13, 2017 at 11:44am

Airdersmom, sorry! Sometimes I don't get every email update. Yes. That's probably it.

Comment by rx7red on February 13, 2017 at 10:10am

PIR 2/3/17 for my son.  He was job rating changed from FC to ET. Can any one explain why this happens?

Comment by Mary, Proud Mom of Nick on February 1, 2017 at 10:44pm

Big news for our FCs...Navy Establishes Four New Ratings
Story Number: NNS170201-05Release Date: 2/1/2017 11:20:00 AM A A A Email this story to a friend Print this story
From Chief of Naval Personnel Public Affairs
WASHINGTON (NNS) -- The Navy announced Wednesday the establishment of four new ratings for active duty Sailors, yeoman submarine (YNS), logistics specialist submarine (LSS), culinary specialist submarine (CSS) and fire controlman Aegis (FCA) in NAVADMIN 021/17.

This realignment was made to improve management of ship manning and personnel inventory for both the Surface and Submarine ratings.

The new ratings will be effective:
- Sept. 2, 2017, for E-6
- Oct. 17, 2017, for E-7 through E-9
- Nov. 28, 2017, for E-1 through E-5

Sailors serving as Aegis fire controlman and yeoman, logistics specialist, culinary specialist submarine Sailors will be converted to their applicable service ratings by enlisted community managers with no action needed from the member.

The new ratings are for active duty Sailors and billets and will not be applied to the reserve component. Additionally, there will be no changes to Sea/Shore flow resulting from the new ratings.

An advancement exam will be created for each new service rating. The first E-7 exam for these ratings will be given in January 2018. For E-4, E-5 and E-6 exams for these new ratings will be given in March 2018.

More information and complete details can be found in NAVADMIN 021/17 found at www.npc.navy.mil.

For more news from Chief of Naval Personnel, visit www.navy.mil/local/cnp/.
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