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Advice on getting married and moving after deployment.
Hi ladies,
My fiance is currently deployed and we're getting married in June, a while after they return. He never got a chance to move out to base before deploying, because he was flown to the ship right after his A school leave, so we're planning on moving as well right after we get married.
Will they give him any travel days that don't count toward leave since he's moving? Last time, he was granted 12 or 14 days of leave and 1 travel day to fly.. It's going to take us 30+ hours to drive, so that's about three days with stops.
I feel like we're never going to be able to get all of this done with the small amount of leave he has. He needs to take a few days of leave when he gets back so we can deal with getting an apartment -I'm flying out there for homecoming- but then he needs at least a week for a few days before the wedding, dealing with packing and everything, and driving out there. (Can he even split the leave up like this?)
Also, will they pay to move HIM, not me but him? I know that since I wasn't on his orders, they won't pay for my move but he never got a chance to bring anything of his out there. If it makes a difference, he's an E3 and it's Bremerton, WA.
Any information on moving, especially that's specific for our weird situation would be a lifesaver, I don't know where to even begin and he hasn't had time to get to Legal on the ship yet to ask.
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Permalink Reply by Angie on
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The navy has what is called "house hunting leave" where it is 10 days (not charged to leave) for them to find a place to live...BUT sense he is an E3 and had no dependents on his orders, normally they will not grant him that. He needs to talk to his command ever command is different.
As far as moving his stuff,his command does not have to allow him to take leave to go home and get his stuff. He can get a POA and have that person be there when the movers get there for his stuff.
Regarding "he needs" in the Navy there is no such thing as what he needs, it is what the Navy needs! He will fill out leave paper work while he is on deployment, it is up to the department which leave period he gets (1st one or second one) normally they do not allow them to take both or split between the two. You need to talk to him about his leave and what he is taking.
As far as the "last time" with leave..that was his leave before he reported to his command. He won't get any travel time, as he needs to figure that into his leave...if he is allowed 14 days, and it takes 3 days to drive one way, than that is 6 days out of his leave...they don't give travel days for leave...only when transferring between commands.
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Permalink Reply by Anti M on
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He won't get any travel days in conjunction with his leave. Travel days only count on orders, and as far as the Navy is concerned, he checked into his command, so his "move" is complete. He can check with PPO (personal property office) to see if he still has the option to ship his HHG to WA. I know there's a time frame and a weight limit, but I cannot find it online. Legal isn't who he needs, he needs PSD (personnel). No one will talk to you yet, which is frustrating.
They will not give a single sailor house hunting leave, sorry. He has to take enough personal leave to get it all done, travel, wedding, house hunting, in one lump. It would be unusual for a command to approve two leaves so close together. You may be the one doing the apartment searching. It will be hectic. If he does get a HHG shipment, it takes time to arrange it, he may need to leave a POA with his parents or someone who can oversee the movers and sign the inventory.
(Sorry about the repeat info, Angie posted pretty much when I did)
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Permalink Reply by EmilyNicole98 on
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Thanks to both of you for responding so quickly yet again!! It's so hard to get answers myself since we aren't married yet and I don't know where to go looking online..
Will he be able to deny taking any leave right after getting back from deployment and instead take all of it a month or so later?
As far as the moving goes, I know you can do DITY ones.. is there anywhere I could combine his move with mine but figure out the weight of his stuff alone so they'll pay for part of it? Right now his stuff is split up between my apartment and his parents house and we live two hours apart, and I know they won't pay to move his stuff from two different locations. What's the HHG?
I just need to make sure he'll be able to be here for the wedding at the very least...
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Permalink Reply by meagan5220 on
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I know of sailors on my husbands ship that took leave outside of the POM periods but that is not set in stone and depends on the command, and if they need him. When they start heading back (this is how it was for my husbands ship) they tell all the sailors when the leave periods will be and how long. So my husband got 21 days when he came back (which is very unusual, it was because the ship changed homeports so everyone got extra time to move their families) I have heard typically its anwyhere from 1-2 weeks of leave.
The best thing to do on your end will start researching apts, and moving companies (some give mil discount even if you dont get a move) Start saving money for rent, deposits, and moving. Start purging your stuff to make it a lighter load up there. Narrow down your apts to a few places you like, and check em out online and ask about their wait list and fees. A lot of places have good specials during the summer so that should help some.
HHG is household goods. They will only pay for however much he is allowed to move if they authorize a move for him. So even if you have more they will only give him money for his weight limit. But he has to go ask someone about doing that. Make sure he is saving money on his end too so yall can help cover the cost of that. For wedding gifts ask for giftcards!!! Easier to carry and help you get set up. Also, make sure you have your important paperwork when you move, Birth certificate, transcripts, ss card, etc.
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Yes, when and how much leave is going to be totally up to the ship, so there's no one answer any of us can give.
The DITY move is now called PPM (personally procured move). If he qualifies for one, there's no need to split your things, because no one is going to check what belongs to whom. As long as he brings it in under his weight limit, that will be paid for... again, if he qualifies.
Go through all your things, sell, donate and toss. You can replace small appliances, etc, so if something isn't great, don't hang onto it.
Definitely ask for giftcards, gas cards, prepaid Visa cards as gifts. Take a look hard look at your wedding expenses, you may want to cut corners, you'll need every penny for the move. Not romantic, but practical. One thing to ask for is a Triple A membership, or be sure your insurance covers roadside assistance.
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Alright he got down to Personell yesterday and they won't give him any sort of move, which I expected. They told him he should be almost guaranteed to get the leave time off for the wedding so that makes me feel better, even though nothing is ever "guaranteed" where the Navy is concerned!
Thanks for the idea about gift cards, that would indeed make a lot more sense!
Any ideas for moving companies that have good moving discounts?
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Moving is very, very expensive. If you can't get a good quote, look at services such as PODS, where they bring a container, you pack it, they move it, you unpack it. Not really cheap, but cheaper.
I take it your cars aren't good for towing a uhaul? Or you don't want to drive a Budget truck and tow one of the cars?
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One of our cars is an Escape, so that will be able to tow something but my car is a small Malibu so it'd be rough to pull something behind it. I'm thinking we will ride in the Escape and pull a small uhaul behind us and my parents will follow a few days later with my car and his parents will drive a bigger uhaul truck or something and they can all fly back, but I really have no idea.
Thanks for the suggestion Jenn! I will have to look into both of these.
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If you have a choice in rental trucks/trailers, use Budget or Penske. Uhaul is notorious for bad roadside service and not maintaining their trailers well. Also, read up on loading trailers, tongue weight, how to avoid sway while driving. Be aware the trip will take a little longer, a vehicle with a trailer is safer at slower speeds (think 55~65 instead of 75).
(I know a lot of people who use a lot of rental trucks and trailers annually ...)
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fyi...personnel has nothing to do with his leave, he needs to talk to his Chief BUG as you already said nothing is guaranteed...he could have approved leave up until the day before he is supposed to leave and than they could cancel it. It is the Navy, better have a back up plan
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I hope you didn't plan a big wedding with a hall and all that, as things change in the Navy and as was said. He doesn't even know what leave dates he will get...also the ship could get delayed in coming home, could come home early or anything...so recommend setting a big wedding date. Do something small at a families house where it won't matter if the date is changed.
Also if he has the Navy move his stuff...they will only go to one location, they won't go to two to pick up his stuff. Now my 2 cents is he should let the Navy move his stuff...as they pack it, and move it, that will leave more time for you two to spend time together instead of worrying about packing and moving everything..his weight allowance is 5,000 lbs http://www.move.mil/home.htm
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Permalink Reply by Jenn_NicksWifey on
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We used U Pack. They drop off a trailer, you fill it & call them when you're ready for it to be picked up. They had the best prices and the most customer friendly policies. Also, we reserved a certain amount of space in the truck. If we used less, they deducted it from the bill. If we used more, they only charged for what we used. They also give you some free storage time if you need it before your stuff is delivered and have a military discount, even if you're not getting it reimbursed. Their prices and policies were better than PODS for us and we didn't have to drive a U Haul which would have been expensive in gas.
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