Help please with marriage info.

[Jessica21:)]

Okay so first of my boyfriend will be getting to pensecola either 11/16 or 11/17. He is going for aviation Machinist. He has 4 weeks of school. Which is great. :) and I do know that when he gets there he will more then likely be on hold until his classes are open to him. I hope only two weeks. If he takes three days out of the ten days on the holiday stand down will he still have leave after he graduates. Because if not then he rather not come home over the holiday and just have his longer leave after graduation. We are wanting to get married after a school. Once we do how soon will I be added to his page two, and from what I know since we weren't married before he joined we will have to pay for the move to where his orders take him. Not sure on that either. But if we would want to get married while he's in school how soon should he ask for his Chit so we can. And do they have a place there for us to get married or will they give him that info. And will they give him the info for housing? If someone knows anything if y'all could please help.

[Anti M]

If he is on leave after A school, he will not need a chit to marry.  If he is on leave during the holiday stand down, he may need the chit as he is attached to the school command.  However, given the short duration of his school, he won't have time to push the chit through AND get into see the chaplain for the required counseling.  Long and short of it, he needs to ask when he checks in.  Find out what his school chain of command requires of him in this case.  

They won't let him take just three days of leave over Christmas, they like everyone to take the full ten days/two weeks.  He hasn't even earned ten days yet, so he can borrow more against his future leave.  The schools like as many as possible to go home so the staff can also have a break.  I don't know if they shut down the barracks in P-cola like they do in Great Lakes, but I do know they aren't keen on sailors taking less than a week of leave.  It messes up their system. He will need to ask what the policy is there, again, when he checks in.

He earns leave at 2.5 days per month.  So in boot camp, he picked up 5 days.  He'll have 7 by the stand down.  He can borrow more days, but that leaves him nothing for after A school.  They only let them borrow so much.  What also is unknown is if they are going to push him through A school faster so he's done before the stand down.  That happens some years.  

Usually, to get on the orders, you need to be married about four weeks before the orders are issued.  With his school being so short, he's going to receive orders very quickly.  It is doubtful you'll be able to get on them.  He may even see orders while he's still in boot camp, that can happen with short schools.  

You're correct, you do not get a paid move if you aren't on the orders.

He adds you to the page two, so that depends on how soon he can get your information to a military facility.  It doesn't need to be a Navy base, you can use the RAPIDS locator to see if there is one near you.  If there is, he would add you to page 2, enroll you in DEERS and TRICARE, and get your ID card all in one visit.  Otherwise, he waits until he checks into his new command (or goes back to school).  

If you do decide to go to P-cola to marry, you need to do it through the county, marriage is a civilian matter.  Google Lake County for license and marriage information.  They will help him with the information, but you can look it up now.  

They will provide him some information on housing.  He will receive a housing allowance for you (BAH).  It will be based on where you live while he's in school, but if you'r marrying after, it will be based on where he will be stationed, by zip code.  He can apply for Navy housing, which isn't even on base, or you can rent privately.  Either way, the housing office will help you.

[Jessica21:)]

You have me a lot of info thank you. Yes that's what he was thinkin that he might not even be able to take just three days. So hes more then likely not going to come for Christmas and that's okay with the both of us. I can always go see him. So it always takes four weeks to get on orders or could it be different for everyone? So when he enrolls my daughter and I in deers and tricare we will then get our id? Since his school is so short he was thinking they might want him to finish even faster we are hoping for that. But we are keeping our a b ANC c plans open. Lol if we would to get married after school we could always just meet him to where they give orders to correct? That's if we don't all leave together. He can still apply for the housing and if we don't get it soon we can always live off base and I know they still give him an allowance for that. But okay I will make sure to talk to someone right away when he gets to school so he can know what we need. But for sure to get married while he's in school he needs to be in phase two. Thank you for all your help.

[meagan5220]

In FL to get married if either of you are a FL RESIDENT it's a three day wait or a class. If not you can walk in and walk out an hour later married. The biggest thing in Pcola is he has to be in phase two to leave base if I remember correctly which takes about 2 weeks. There is a group for Pcola A schools you might hop over there and see what the wait time to class up is looking like and then you might be able to get a better timeline. I know some rates were saying it had been delayed by the govt shutdown but idk if that's still true. I got married to my husband in Pensacola so I can answer specific questions about that if you have any. I don't have much to add to Anti M. She covered pretty much all your questions 

[Jessica21:)]

Okay thank you. If i do I will make sure to ask. So he has to be on phase two to even leave off base so we can get married correct?

[meagan5220]

That was the rule when my husband was there. It takes two weeks typically to get to phase two but my husband was not allowed off base before then.

[meagan5220]

As far as the housing office on base in Pcola they can give him basic info but they won't know the status of housing g at other bases. But once he gets orders and you on his page 2. Then the housing office at his first duty station will help you out. 

[Angie]

Something to also keep in mind, if he gets orders when you are not married they could be for overseas and you will not be on them, nor will you be able to move overseas with him...something to keep in mind, you always need to have another plan. 

[Jessica21:)]

What about when we do get married either in while he's in school or after I know he will have his orders by ten but will I still be able to move with him over seas once I'm on his orders? He will be over there already but my daughter and I could move after right? Or no or does it depend.

[meagan5220]

Some places yes you could move. It would be expensive and from what I have heard you will not get BAH for overseas unless you get command sponsorship. Which is a pain and he will probably have to be at least an e4. In many places like Japan it's near impossible to live there without command sponsorship because you have to get a work visa. You can't just live in other countries for a few years without jumping their hoops if you aren't officially there as a military dependent.

[Angie]

As was said it takes a lot of paper work and normal ends up being no you can not move over there until he gets to be at least an E4 and even then they do not have to approve the sponsorship.  

If he has his orders when you get married, they are not changing them.  If they are overseas orders..he will go by himself for the 2-4 years.  If they are stateside the Navy will not pay to move you, but being in the USA you can move where you want...so you and your daughter can move to be near him, than if you are married he can apply for base housing for you, if that is where you all want to live.