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Okay, so I posted a couple of days ago about my situation with my recruit. That included the thinking about getting married while he is in A school in Pensecola, FL. I received some great information, and you were all very helpful, so I thought I would post again with some more specific questions.
I understand that my fiance will need to request permission to get married when he gets to A school, if that's what we decide to do, and then we will need to go from there. I am wondering if our age and his rank will affect us getting permission. He is eighteen, and I will be nineteen by the time of his PIR on November 21st.
Also, my fiance is starting out as an E-1, and to my knowledge, he won't be promoted for at least after a year or more of service. If we do get married while he is in A school, will his low rank keep him from getting BAH for him and me both when he receives his orders and station? Will I still not be able to go with him, even if we are married? I have heard many different things from a variety of people, and the point of us getting married would be so that we can live together after he is stationed - I really want to know if that will be a reality, if he is only an E-1, and on top of that, only eighteen.
Any and all advice is appreciated!
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Permalink Reply by abuon18 on
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They can't keep a married Sailor from receiving BAH, no matter his age or rank. They do NOT give double BAH for you AND him. They give him one BAH for him plus one dependent. Since he will be in student status he will be considered a geo-bachelor and allowed to live in the barracks also while receiving BAH for you.
The only way you will not be able to go with him is if he gets stationed overseas. To get an accompanied move overseas (with dependents) Sailors have to be e-4 or higher. If he gets stationed anywhere in the States you will be able to go with him and the Navy will pay to move you and you will be eligible for military housing if you choose as long as you are married before he receives his orders. I don't know how far into A school that will be for him so make sure he finds out when he gets there! -
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His age and rank won't have anything to do with it. Someone in his chain might counsel him to make sure, but you are both of legal age, so.... Also, it shouldn't take a year for him to go from E-1 to E-2, not a huge difference, but a raise is a raise, and a promotion is a promotion :-)
As far as BAH goes, if you're married, you're eligible - period. The only thing about that that will be affected by his paygrade will be the amount he gets. (Lower rank gets less BAH...)
Now, where rank really comes into play as far as being married goes is this - if he is below the paygrade of E-4 (Which is Petty Officer 3rd Class - so basically if he is any of the 3 Seaman ranks) then, married or not, he will NOT be authorized to take dependents with him if he is stationed overseas. -
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Also, even if he has Stateside orders, if you aren't married and officially in Deers (that part is easy and quick) before he gets his orders, then the Navy won't move you. If you are married before then, assuming it's somewhere he is authorized dependents, the Navy will move you.
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Permalink Reply by mollybub on
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Thank you for the information! I feel much better knowing that his rank won't affect him receiving BAH. I have another question, though - if he is stationed overseas, being lower than an E-4, will the Navy still provide BAH for me? Or will I be on my own, even if we are married?
From what I understand, my fiance's A school is between five and six weeks, and we wouldn't be able to get married until he moved up to Phase II, which could take a few weeks. Could he get his orders before Phase II or during, before we had a chance to get married? Because if that happens, then I would not be able to move with him if he is stationed in the US. There is so much complication and room for error in this, which is why I am trying to be thorough in my questions and research!
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When he gets his orders really depends on the school itself. Yes if his school is short he could get them 1/2 way in, nothing is for certain in the Navy.
If you get married after he has orders, correct the Navy won't pay for you to move. But you are a US citizen, you can do what you want if you want to move with in the USA you can move where you want at your cost.
If you get married before he gets orders, he won't get stationed overseas.
If you get married after he has orders and his orders are overseas, they will pay him BAH based on where you live. HE will have to give you the money. Also you will not be able to move overseas with him.
No matter how much research you do, the Navy can throw a wrench in anything and change the rules and reg's at any time. So I recommend you just relax and take it one step at a time
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This is true, that I can move at my leisure, it's just that I would want us to be able to live together. I suppose there is a way that could happen, though, yes? If he was getting a BAH, for just himself, he could live off base with me?
Would he not get stationed overseas because we were married? And even if we married after his orders, would he still get BAH plus one dependent?
You are right, though, I do need to relax. I think this is part of how I am coping with his absence, by keeping busy with thinking about the future.
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Okay. I think you are confused about BAH. Single Sailors don't get BAH-unless they are higher ranking, E-5 or something. So he will ONLY get BAH if you are married. If he does get stationed overseas he will get BAH for you to live here in the US based on the zip code you live in. I think I was a little unclear earlier, BAH is dependent on the zip code you live in or your Sailor's permanent duty station. It is also based on how many dependents you have so if you have kids you would get a little more because they would assume you would need a larger home. So if you're not married he won't be getting BAH anyway.
If you get married after he gets his orders and decide to move yourself to where he is stationed he will be allowed to live with you. Even though the Navy won't pay for your move you would still be eligible for military housing if you wanted or you would receive BAH if you chose to live in civilian housing. -
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Okay, thank you, that was my main question. I was worried that if we didn't get married before my fiance received his orders, he wouldn't get help for us to live together. The moving I am not so worried about...it's just about having a place to live and being able to afford it.
So...I think I understand everything now? Haha
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You don't get more Bah if you have kids. If you live in housing, depending on the number of kids you have, their age, and sex, they will adjust the number of bedrooms you get, but you either live in the barracks / on a ship, you live in housing (with dependents) or you get Bah - either at the single (you have to be E-5 or above, or in an area where the barracks are full) or at the with dependents rate. Your Bah will also increase as the Sailor gets promoted.-
If you go to thus website, you can enter the zipcode of the duty station, paygrade, and dependent status and it will tell you what the current BAH is for that location, to give you an idea of what to expect.
http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil:80/site/bahCalc.cfm
It would be nice though if they gave you more money when you had kids - it would have come in quite handy :-) -
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Okay, thanks for the clarification. I guess I got confused with the living on/off base part!
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Is it BAS that increases with dependents? My friend has two kids, her husband is an e-4 like mine and makes slightly more than mine. I assumed that was BAH.
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Permalink Reply by Anti M on
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BAS is for the sailor only, never for dependents. Is their zip code different? BAH is based on zip codes, even in the same town you can have slightly different amounts just a few miles apart.
His BAH could be more if he's got over four years in (I think... they used to give more to E-4s over four in the past)
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