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What do you know about honor guards?
In my hubby's first letter home (the only one so far), he said he volunteered for the honor guard. He said it would extend his contract by 2 years, and we would be in the DC area for those 2 years, so I don't think he meant the 900 division at bootcamp. He volunteered because it would be all land duty and extra pay. I'm all for it, since he wants to make the Navy his career, those 2 extra years are assumed anyway. I would love to have him home for 2 straight years. However, the one article I could find on honor guards in DC made it sound like he would go to that training instead of A-School right after bootcamp. He signed up to be an EN and was really looking forward to it. How does this work? Will he go to A-School for EN then to DC to be the ceremonial guard? He mentioned extra pay? Is that because of the spiffy uniforms, I wonder? Any info that anyone has on the subject would be welcome! He did say that he had to be chosen, so "Let's hope I get it".
Thank you!!
Jenn.
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Permalink Reply by RochelleM on
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My boyfriend just got honor guard, i dont know much about it. he said it doesnt extend his contract, thats just what he does for the first two years, he gets paid and extra $75 a month, and i think the only difference in uniforms is they have a rope which goes around their shoulder/arm? I know he goes to A school for 4 weeks before heading to DC but thats about all i know, let me know what you find out too!
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Permalink Reply by Jenn_NicksWifey on
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Thank you for that info! Do you know what happens after the guard duty is up? Would they then go to A school? I know he really is looking forward to being an engineman.
Thank you!
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Permalink Reply by Angie on
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After guard duty he goes to the school that was in his contract...than they give him orders to a new duty station. BUT engineman "A" School is NOT long enough for the USN to move you to Great Lakes. So you will have to stay in limbo until he gets orders to his next duty station..unless you pay out of pocket to move all your stuff to Great Lakes...but even than, he may not be approved to live off base while in school.
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Permalink Reply by Anti M on
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What concerns me is the two years without a rate. Means he cannot advance past E-3 during that time. There are no unrated E-4, it is not possible. Does his EN contract give him a promotion to E-4 upon completion? That would be highly desirable.
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I believe he expects to rank up before he completes his first contract for EN. He has a bachelor's degree, so when he completes bootcamp, he will be an E-3. Oh, I don't think he'll like that he can't advance for two years. I have a nice long letter for him. I did find a decent article to print and send to him because I don't think they gave him much information before asking for volunteers.
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Most EN contracts do not give them an automatic advancement to E4, even if it does. He really is 2 years behind everyone else in the USN, and will have a hard time catching up with everyone else...which in the long run CAN hurt him and his time in the USN. How you may ask....when it comes time for him to reenlsit, he has to get approval from big Navy and if he is a lower paygrade than otherw who have been in the same amount of time, he may not get selected to stay in the USN and get told to go home. There is a program called PTS which he will learn more about after he has been in a year or two.
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There has to be an opening for them to change rates, they can't just pick anything the USN has.
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Thank you everyone for your great replies. I went from thinking this was an awesome thing, which it is, to realizing that it's probably not right for my Sailor or our family. We talked extensively about his/our goals before he left and I just don't see how Guard duty will help him achieve those goals. I did write in my letter to him that no matter what he picked, I would be behind him 100% and that I only want him to choose something that will make him happy.
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The Guard doesn't really help Sailors...sorry to say, everyone I have seen who went to the Guard right out of bootcamp and than came up to Great Lakes for "A" School acted as if they where better than everyone else. When reality the only reason they got picked to go to the Guard is due to how tall they where and clear skin...yep...that is about it that gets them asked if they want to go to the Guard. Than after they are there, they act like they are all that and a bag of cookies, many of the ones I saw come back to Great LAkes for school got in trouble for dumb things, as they acted as if they where above the rules, as they had been at the Guard.
Sorry just my 2 cents and what I saw in the 6 years I was stationed at Great Lakes
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Great Lakes Training Command is a terrible place to go if you've been anywhere in the fleet. That was true when I was in A school... and I was coming out of boot camp in Orlando, and the rules were far laxer at Glakes than they are now. I can easily see how those Guards would have trouble adjusting to the tight liberty phases.
Hey Angie, you were an EN... does that contract usually have the pushbutton crow? Or did you earn yours the old fashioned way?
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I had push button, but that was back years ago. They stopped that program about 5 years ago, so now they have to earn it the old fashioned way.
We did a study while I was in Great Lakes of who got in trouble (ok..who got caught getting in trouble, lol) and the stats where it was more Guards than anyone else, than fleet returnee's, and last was those who came right over from bootcamp.
My 2 cents why it was more Guard..was they where in DC and saw the POTUS and all the big wigs, so they started to think they where above the normal rules that everyone else had to follow. So they would just go and do what they wanted to do, they couldnt get it. I am not saying all of them got in trouble, but the % was higher for Guard than anyone else. And no I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I do remember that we thought it was strange how the numbers turned out that they where highest.
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We had a fleet returnee who came in as an ET striker. She never made it to A school, three of us wrote her up for three different infractions one duty weekend. Bounced back to her ship in under three weeks.
I can see how it happens, even working with the Admiral's staff on the Blue Ridge I ran into seamen who seemed to forget I was a first class just because I carried a toolkit. I got downright salty with those types.
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