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Comment by Allison on October 31, 2019 at 12:19am

PPV housing is offered to both single and married sailors, and even more commonly to married sailors. It is basically just when a private third party operates military housing. So if you’ve ever lived in Lincoln housing (a common military housing group) that is PPV housing, and eventually (supposedly) all military housing will be privatized. Sometimes these housing communities are former military housing, which I think is where the confusion of what PPV housing is comes from.

Unaccompanied housing (UH) is where single sailors and married sailors without their dependents live. These may be on base “barracks” style or more like apartments. There is also the option for sailors to move off base into either a place they find or in a PPV housing community...this kind of just depends on the options available where they are stationed and were they want to live. This typically becomes available at E-4, so they have to be in on base UH until at least then (I think this might be a command dependent thing), but single rate-BAH doesn’t kick in until E-5 like abuon18 mentioned, so it will be an out of pocket cost before that. Exceptions to get off base early include (sometimes) sailors on sea rotation or when there is a severe lack of availability in the on base UH.

Another important thing to remember about BAH is that a sailor gets it for having dependents in their care...there is a minimum amount of time I think, but the point is basically that they don’t have to be married to be considered to have dependents. They may have children or even in some circumstances have elderly family in their care. It is also possible that a sailor has dependents and is even married but does not receive BAH, receives single-rate BAH, or that the location influencing the BAH rate will be for a different location than expected. I wish there were clear consistencies that I could explain, but it is dependent on so many factors. 

Anyway, if you and your spouse are separating or divorcing, you need to get someone else involved...preferably not command though, that’s not their job, and they won’t really be able to help you. They can harp on your spouse to get their ish together, but without someone breathing down THEIR neck, that’s probably all they’re gonna do...and maybe start ignoring your calls. They can’t just tell a sailor to give you money because you ask and they should...that’s not even up to them, that’s all dealt with in PSD and DFAS. Based on your previous questions, I would probably start with Family Advocacy, but if I’m misreading your experiences and you disagree, try Fleet and Family Support or a civilian attorney (i.e. not JAG). If you are separating, whether temporarily while you sort it out or in preparation for a divorce, file for a legal separation so there is a clear agreement of things like child custody, child/spousal support, and you’re protected against any big financial moves...this will also help your case in any disagreements or non-compliance on your spouse’s part.

If you are just going to be living separately for a different reason, like when I had to finish my semester at school and my husband got sent to Italy, you just need to make sure your spouse is on it with PSD and that you both understand what’s going to happen with your spouse’s pay when this happens. PSD likely won’t deal with you directly, but you can go to the meetings with your spouse. It might also be worth checking if they’ll accept special power of attorney to be involved with you while your spouse is away, and unlike divorce or separation, JAG actually can help with POA.

Comment by abuon18 on October 30, 2019 at 7:40pm

PPV is housing for single Sailors, not for Sailors with dependents. It's basically like a dorm. But it is for single Sailors who rate BAH (E-5 and above get BAH at the without dependents rate if they are single). As a married service member he is not eligible for that housing.

If he wants to live somewhere else, separate from you, then that will have to be something you two figure out with your finances. It depends on where you both choose to live, how much your living costs are, what your BAH is. If you are separating, the best thing to do is go see legal and get set in the right direction so you know what you are entitled to during your separation.

Comment by Paige on October 30, 2019 at 7:34pm

And if he were to get housing for himself using his base pay only, I would assume he would need to use some of the BAH to cover some living expenses?!

Comment by Paige on October 30, 2019 at 7:29pm

@abuon18 Thank you for the info, yeah I thought originally that service members can apply for housing for themselves without their dependents, he said its called PPV housing

Comment by abuon18 on October 30, 2019 at 7:26pm

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Comment by abuon18 on October 30, 2019 at 7:26pm

Also, he will not be authorized military family housing for only himself. If he applies for military housing, you will have to love there as well.

Comment by abuon18 on October 30, 2019 at 7:24pm

Paige, BAH for servicemembers with dependents is to provide housing for their dependents. If he is not using to provide housing for you and your children (if you have any) then that is fraud and you should report to his command.

Regarding the second part of your question, if he is providing housing for his dependents and wishes to pay out of pocket (i.e. with his base pay) for additional housing for himself, then he is free to do so, as far as the Navy is concerned. However, if he is failing to properly take care of his dependents' needs, then there is cause for legal action.

Comment by Paige on October 30, 2019 at 6:34pm

Hi you all, I have a question regarding BAH. Can my husband use our BAH to sign up for military housing for himself? Or can he pay for military housing or off base housing using only his base pay? Can he pay for 2 households?

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Comment by Allison on July 7, 2019 at 12:05am

I don’t know why the first part of the FRG didn’t post, but it is a “social and informational support network” for spouses. They host a variety of events from pre-deployment meetings as necessary to BBQs and Christmas parties. Many of the spouses will be dealing with similar situations or have dealt with them before, so they can be a great resource, and they are lead by trained FRG leaders, typically including the ombudsman, that are prepared to provide knowledge and support. Meetings are also a lot of fun! 

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