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Comment by Anti M on January 30, 2017 at 12:11pm

Good morning, Queenknight. Welcome!

Allison is correct regarding moving to A school, unless she is on the orders, and the school is over 20+ weeks, then it is better financially to stay where she is.  You can google the seat time for what rating he will be, as that is what they base Accompanied vs. Unaccompanied orders on.  Be aware that he will be there longer than any stated seat time, but hold times waiting to class up does not count.  Right now there is not much she can do except find as much current information as possible.  Always look at the date and source of what she is told.  You will find that dependents can only do so much, and "hurry up and wait" is going to be part of her new normal.

Here is the COOL site where you can find the length of A schools.  Let me know if you need specific help and I can try.

http://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/

Comment by Anti M on January 30, 2017 at 11:38am

Paige, the DRB is where they review your sailor's infraction, and decide whether to proceed with Captain's Mast, at what level, or if they are going for a CourtsMartial.

Just because the orders were TAD, for a limited time away from his main command, does not make them any less important or "real" than orders which are a change of duty station.  He had a place to be, at a specific time, and he chose not to go.  I do not know why he made that choice, but it was an extremely poor decision.  

Comment by Allison on January 30, 2017 at 11:17am

Congrats! It's tough making the decision whether to move or not. I moved with my husband to A school, but I was put on his orders because he had a long school. Usually it's about 6 months to qualify as a permanent duty station and move with your spouse, so we were fortunate in that respect. If she doesn't get put on the orders because it's a short school, I would recommend waiting because they will only see each other during liberty hours and he'll have to have a buddy all the time while he's in school. It will also save a lot of money to wait for the Navy to pay for the move to his first permanent duty station.

Comment by QueenKnight on January 30, 2017 at 11:07am

Thanks. They just got married in Dec so we have aLl the paperwork with extra copies everywhere! Lol. I'm kinda like yall, I think she should wait till be gets stationed. Wonder were that will be?

Comment by Allison on January 30, 2017 at 10:48am

It depends on the length of his A school if she'll be put on his orders. The best thing she can do right now is focus on sending some positive letters with lots of words of encouragement to help him through bootcamp. My husband always wanted to know what was going on in the world and at home. I also sent sports updates. Saving money is a great idea, and if she's missing any official documents like original birth certificate or is short on copies of their marriage certificate, she should get those things together in a safe place since all kinds of reasons to have them will come up. If she doesn't have a passport, she should get one just in case. I also recommend downsizing since moving is a pain, but it doesn't have to be extreme, just if she has books she'll never read again or clothes she hasn't worn in months, that kind of stuff.

Comment by elizabeth_fl on January 30, 2017 at 7:53am

She should be able to go with him to Pensacola as she should be on his orders. But I have seen where some wives stay in their hometowns until their husbands are finished with schooling and have their orders for their first duty station :) 

Comment by Michael on January 29, 2017 at 10:25pm

As long as she's on his orders then she can go.

Comment by QueenKnight on January 29, 2017 at 7:52pm

Hi all! Thanks for the add! I'm actually the mom, my son is in bootcamp currently. He just got married, and his wife is here with me(so please don't kick me out..lol). Is there a link or somewhere we can get information on what she needs/can be doing right now? Will she be able to go to Pensacola with him or should she wait? Those type questions. Thanks for all your help!

Comment by Michael on January 29, 2017 at 4:31pm

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P. SIMMONS, Military Lawyer
Sir, the first thing to keep in mind is that while the DRB is an administrative hearing, if you present evidence, that evidence can be used in a later proceeding. So, for example, if you testify at the DRB and they decide to send the case to a court, your testimony at the DRB can be used at court.

The other thing you want to understand is that before the Naval drug lab reports a positive on a urine test, that test goes through a GCMS test. Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry (GCMS) is basically a chemical fingerprint of the substance. It is not the same as an assay test, which tend to not be accurate (for example, many commercially available over the counter medications and supplements can cause a positive screening on an assay test but will screen negative for GCMS testing)

I am not a forensic pathologist...but that is what you need.

If your goal is to fight this you really need to talk to a forensic pathologist to see if the substance you took can screen positive in a GCMS testing for Serax.

IF that is the case? Then that is what you want to present at the DRB

Be careful though...if you go to the DRB and claim you never took Serax but took _____ (whatever it is you took) you can bet that the commander will consult with a forensic pathologist (there is at least one at every Naval hospital) to see if that is possible. If it is not? Then you may well find yourself facing additional charges of false official statement.

On the other hand, if you contact a forensic pathologist? And they can confirm that the substance you took will test positive for Serax in GCMS testing? Then you are set.

BotXXXXX XXXXXne: I would not make a statement at the DRB unless/until you can confirm whatever it was you took can test for Serax in a GCMS screening test. My guess is the answer is no...but there are exceptions since many drugs are derived from plants...just make sure you have a basis for the claim before you raise it...if you do not and are wrong, you may find yourself in worse trouble than you started with

Comment by Paige on January 29, 2017 at 4:22pm

What happens when you get a DRB?

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