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Do many fail Dive School
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Permalink Reply by richsmom (Div 818 PIR 9/2/10) on
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katydid My son has not completed Dive school yet. He has been in PC for about 2 1/2 months. From what I understand it is very hard and many do fail. Most fail in dive prep which is in GL right after bootamp. I'm not exactlycertain what the average fail/pass ratio is. When I read back at the last few classes it is not encouraging. But I do believe the reason they have that is because it is so dangerous and serious. They want to make sure that you really want it and are really capable. Like with any other job in the Navy, from what I understand is if you DOR or fail then you have a choice of other jobs that are available at that time. You can also go undesignated for a while until you make a decision. Don't know if this helped or not.
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Permalink Reply by katydids61 on
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Richsmom: Thanks for the information you provided. My son is just at the "talking to the recruiter stage" because he really wants to be a Navy Diver. We have been reading a lot of information on it and it seems like the failure rate is really high right after boot camp like you said. Then it isn't looking so great when they get to A school either! So, until he takes his ASVAB he does not know what jobs he can even qualify for. As disappointing as it may be to not pass the school, I wonder how much more disappointing it may be to not have a choice at what rate you will get after that. My understanding is that you don't get a choice, they just assign you where needed. Also, we are hearing that even if you pass the school it is lottery pick to get the job. Not quite sure I understand that part of it. Just lots of questions and not sure of all of the answers. I am always concerned that the recruiters won't tell the whole picture. But, he is studying for the ASVAB now and will go take it within the next 2-3 weeks and then he can really think about what jobs may be available. Good luck to your son!
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katy I can totally understand your concern. Our son is older so we only knew what he told us when he joined. The rest we are learnng along the way. The training has been difficult fo rhim but he really wants it and is very determined and hard headed. But he still has until the middle of April to find out if he passes. Many recruits were dropped in Dive Prep. That is where they find out if you are tough enough and determined enough and comfortable enough n the water. Dive school in PC we are still going through. Our son seems determined and confident but he still has a long way to go. I'm just praying.
I am friends with a few other mothers whose sons are in special ops but not diving, for example rescue swimming and SWCC(they work along side SEALS). A couple of the Salors have DOR'd or been dropped. They have been given the opportunity to take a job that is currently available or stay undesignated until they find something they like. I know for cetain that one is now headed for an aircraft carrier. I believe the other is doing the same. They both decided to be undesignated.
As far as the lottery after they pass dive school. When they pass they get their orders. They could do anthing from working on repairing ships or being assigned to a SEAL team to assist when they make their dives. That in fact they won't know until they pass, that is true. I hope this helps. Again I am new to this but have always appreciated any info that someone could offer. Good luck to you and your Recruit.
By the way. When my son was in dive prep, he almost didn't go through. At that time he was a bit dissappointed but never regretted joining the Navy. He considered being a corpsman, but did pass prep. Bootcamp was very tough, especially for special ops recruits, but when he was finished he felt proud of himself and loves the Navy life. The working out, the challenge, the comraderie and the adventure.
God Bless your son and may he enjoy the Navy as well as my son does.
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Richsmom, you are a wealth of information to me at this point and I certainly appreciate your insight. I am relieved to hear that they can go undesignated until they find something they like in case they don't get through. I hear a lot of the A schools, including nuke, can be very difficult and not everyone makes it. I think so long as they know they have given it their best effort they should not be disappointed and be proud of what they have accomplished. No regrets!
Congratulations to your son for getting through boot camp. How exciting! I am sure each day is full of challenges. I agree with you that the camaraderie and adventure alone is worth the risk of going for it. Best of luck to your son and keep us posted. I will post as I get new information about my son. I am getting excited for him.
He just finished a semester of college and was still on break when he called me at work one day a couple of weeks ago. I answered the phone and he says, "Hey mom, guess what I just did? I just went and talked to a Navy recruiter. I am not going back to school. I hated it and I am enlisting." Wow, it came out of nowhere. However, when he was in high school he talked about it a lot and I talked him into a semester of college first. He has had time to think about it and it is still what he wants. He said for the first time since graduation he felt excited about something he wanted to do. I am starting to catch his enthusiasm:)
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And make sure you stay with Navy 4 Moms. I still talk with a few of the moms whose sons were in my sons division in BC. The boys have gone off to different schools but we and some of them are still close. You are welcome to check out our groups. We have 3 other moms whose sons were in bootcamp after ours but are also in special ops. They have joined our group and we all go through eveyones joys and sorrows together. Please check us out and join if you feel like it. All the moms are great. Funny and very welcoming. We are Div818 PIR 9/2/10. I will try to copy the site address and post it on here. Not too terrific with computers but I'll give it a shot.
Liza :-)
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katydid: The commitment your son is already showing will take him far!! My son found himself floundering by the last semester in high school -- "we" had always planned on him going to college, but his subconcious kept him from completing the steps to make that happen (only one SAT score, acceptable but not stellar GPA, no real interest in previewing colleges or even sending applications, etc., no essays written, and on, and on). He knew he needed something more active and/or hands-on than standard college. We looked into culinary school and he got excited about that for about a week, but alas no fundage and he wasn't excited enough to go FIND the money, so . . .
He DID take the ASVAB and scored very well, so the letters and phone calls started rolling in from recruiting stations around town. When he started talking to the various recruiters at our school, he got VERY excited. I think it's the physcial aspect of the military. He's a very gung-ho, teamwork guy anyway, so it seemed like a good fit. But when we sat for 2 hours with the Navy recruiter and started getting all the Navy Diver details . . welllll, that's when the rockets started going off for him. He has not ever wavered since.
And it sounds to me like your boy has some of that fever, as well! I encourage you to get him into an ASVAB test (they do it at our high school once a year, but your local recruiters (any branch) can arrange to have him tested, too). That will give him a starting point. Part of the ASVAB results give recommendations for what type of occupation he might consider for himself, whether or not he eventually chooses the military, y'know. It's a great thing to have in your back pocket, in my opinion.
PLUS, if he scores really well, the recruiters will be jumping up and down to get him whatever job he wants! :D BONUS!!
Keep us posted. I'm getting excited FOR you! LOL!! The next few months are going to be fun while you and your son work through all the preliminary stuff. And Richsmom is right--this site (all the various discussions and groups) is an enormous wealth of information. I would be lost without the advice and info I've gotten from the generous folks here!
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48 started in my sons class in great lakes and 13 made it through the end and are now divers.
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Holy semolians, Bren! Any clues as to why so few?? Is there any advice you or your son could offer a new hopeful Diver Prep guy??
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Wow. However, that is a little better than what I have been hearing. A friend (ex-navy) had some good advice for my son. He told him to go in for a rate that he still likes and can live with doing. Then once in if he still is thinking about dive school he can apply for that rate and see what happens. That way if for someone he does not make it through he will go back to his previous rate and not into something he may not have really wanted. Sounds like good advice. Congrats to your son if he was one who made it through.
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Well, after reading katydid's post I realized my mistake . . . I HAD been told that from start (contract signing) to finish (completing "A" School), only about 25% make it. I originally thought you meant only 13 guys made it through Diver Prep, but you're talking about alllll the way into the job. Got it. Sounds right on with what we were originally told.
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LadyHawk
Everyone goes through bootcamp first. Then on to Dive prep which is in GL. Your Sailor will just move to the other side of the base in GL for Prep. Then off to PC for Dive school. After graduating from Dive school in PC they will be sent to their first command station where they will continue to train but with others that are already trained. It's now on the job training. (Unless they become a corpsman, which would require furthur training.)
They do get a wish list of where and what they'd like to specialize in (in diving) but do not always get there first choice. Although my son still has a month until graduation he already knows where he will be stationed. It's only a 3 hour drive for us so we are thrilled. It was his 2nd choice not his first but he is still very happy.
Hope this helps. Let me know if I can help any further.
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Hi. I'm fairly new here. My son started Dive School in PCF recently. The statistics discussed here make me nervous. I will certainly be saying my prayers, for him as well as his buddies. He had about 36 in his prep class and 17 made it to PCF. Does anyone else currently have a son in Dive School?
Look forward to getting to know some of the Moms here.
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