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Comment by diannep on January 20, 2015 at 7:41am

Good Morning! FTLW has provided lots of great info below.  When you have the time, check out her links to the PAGES section which provides more info.

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 20, 2015 at 3:27am

SECURITY CLEARANCE CALLS

Here is something on SECURITY CLEARANCE CALLS:

There is the possibility of you receiving a phone call from your SR (Seaman Recruit) during the first one to two weeks (sometimes later as well) after their arrival for Security Clearance info.

I received mine one week after my son arrived at RTC. Had no idea it would come that fast. I'd only really been on the site for a week or two, so I had NOTHING ready! (My son asked for two more names along with their phone number and address. Sometimes you may be asked to fax the info but he was told to get it from me right then.).So... if your Recruit has a rating that requires security clearance information...800 Divisions, IT's, CTI's CTT's Nukes, AT's (the list goes on!), anyone that handles confidential info...have a list of references by the phone.

This is a short business call and is monitored. No time for chit chat...but once in a great while the person monitoring the call allows a few extra minutes.

The area code for GL is "847". My security clearance call, the caller ID said "US GOVERNMENT". We have also had "PAY PHONE" reported and then area codes for the surrounding areas...so answer all...and just get rid of those telemarketers!

Also, if you receive a call from your SR (at any time...not just the Security Call) and miss it...please do not call the number back. Your SR could get in trouble.

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 20, 2015 at 3:26am

The Form Letter:

First, PUT IT IN A SAFE PLACE. Do not throw it away!

It has important information on it that you will need for PIR.

1. Your SR's address. It will look like this:

           SR, Last Name, First Name, Middle initial
           Ship ##, Divison ### 
           Recruit Training Command 
           #### Something Drive or Avenue 
           Great Lakes ILL 60088-####
          

           "Recruit Training Command" can be left off of the address, unless your Recruit writes you and advises you to add it back. Also, if they write a ship name (all of the Ships (barracks) at RTC are named after real Naval vessels.) that does not need to be on the address either…unless your SR writes to you and says it does!

2. PIR (as in pier) date. Pass-in-Review. This is the ceremony that you attend on the last day of BC for your new Sailors.

3. Confidential password for entry with your vehicle into RTC. This is in ALL CAPS and you will need it near the end of BC to be able to access and print up your pass that allows you to enter and park your vehicle onto RTC. The link is made available 11 days before PIR. You do not need it if you are entering on foot (though you do need government ID for entry into PIR); say if a hotel shuttle, taxi drops you off or if you park outside of base. However, if you plan on driving your Recruit back onto RTC after Liberty you will need the VGP.

Do not give out this password to anyone. It is a breach of security.

4. Access List. You will see that your SR has listed up to three to four names on the Access List. These are the loved ones that they wish to invite to PIR. These Folks are guaranteed access to Midway Hall with proper ID. Your Recruit will finalize this list later near the end of BC...that is why you might see names like Nana, Granpy, Sis, Bro, or even the dogs! Communicate with your SR as to the proper legal name for the list.

5. A note from your SR. There used to be few short lines on the very last page for your SR to write a comment...time permitting. Some squeeze it somewhere if they can. Everyone is different. My SR wrote:

"SAY HI TO THE DOGS FOR ME!"...In his new Navy block Upper case lettering.

In fact, your whole form letter will be in new Navy block uppercase lettering and the zero's will have a line through them.  0 Zero; O letter.

Just so you’re not surprised and wonder about it!

There will also be a brochure for hotels and services in the area.

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 20, 2015 at 3:25am

The Box:

...of smelly clothes! LOL

If your SR (Seaman Recruit) took their cellphone with them it will be returned in the box...look in the pants pockets and the shoes if you don't see it outright. Often times it will be taken apart and stuffed into the toes of the shoes.

If you're wondering why one or both pants legs are rolled up...it's because they get their feet measured and they have no time to roll them back down (they're gonna take 'em off anyways!)

The box will arrive by Fed Ex about 5-7 days after your SR arrives at RTC (Recruit Training Command).

Some don't send a box home...they just wear the clothes on their back (donate or throw them away), and bring only the necessary items that they can keep. In this case their cell phone would be sent home in a padded envelope.

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 20, 2015 at 3:20am

Here is the current line-up for your PAGES section here on your PIR GROUP:

• N4M’s Community Guidelines and OPSEC
• Ship/Division--How it Works
• 800 and 900 Divisions
• Phone Cards and Phone Calls
• Letter Writing & Fun Stuff/Questionnaires to send to your Recruit
• RTC Website and RTC Family Guide links
• What ARE They Doing in Boot Camp? Synopsis and a Day-by-Day account...
• LIVESTREAM OF PIR SERVICE
• INFORMATION FROM SARGE!!!

The above are direct links to each PAGE but are also accessible in the PAGES section of your PIR group where they will remain for reference for you :-)

The PAGES are located on the right side of this main comment wall, directly under the member photos. 

Comment by diannep on January 19, 2015 at 11:38pm

To add to FTLW's post below about Navy Lodge, the chits are no longer being issued to the GL A School sailors, we have heard.  But we have no clue why....

Comment by Worriedmom on January 19, 2015 at 11:23pm

Diannep, GREAT info and exciting news ;) thank you!

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 19, 2015 at 10:06pm

The "distinction between classes" in the military is a practical one and for the benefit of all. It's kind of the same reason why it is never a good idea to be "buddies" with your boss...they have to lead and if you are "chummy" with them they cannot lead you. It can only bring problems. Discipline and correction is taken personally and rewards can be misconstrued or even unfairly given. OR that would be the perception of some as well.

So, in order to be an effective leader you simply cannot be BFF's with someone of a lower rank. It is a difficult thing in the military...I know from secondary "first-hand" experience from hubby. I think he puts it pretty good when he has told me, "It's like you can "hang" but...no buddy-buddy." He's got to lead....

And certainly there are very distinct rules as well for gender fraternization or restriction of, it's meant to protect.

So, rules are made to ensure this...does it mean that you don't care for your troops etc.? No, I believe that it makes it more effective. I think bonds are built in that those that follow good strong leaders with boundaries in place...well, it could save their lives and others as well. Purpose is accomplished and trust is there. Toxic leadership destroys moral and people.

Just sharing my thoughts and personal observations from over the years...in no way do I mean this to be anything correctional or preachy :-) 

Comment by Kaylathecat123 on January 19, 2015 at 9:54pm

My gf is ship 3 div 101!

Comment by FireTeamLeaderWife aka FTLW on January 19, 2015 at 9:46pm

I concur with diannep about the Navy Lodge and Navy Gateway Inn and Suites info.

The TSC GL (Training Support Center Great Lakes) Students are actually never allowed onto those two establishments  at any time. The exception was made for newly Graduated Sailors as long as they had a deviation chit.

That was negated upon occasion when there were high ranking Officers staying at either hotel. (There is a distinction between "classes" per say in the military and I will talk about that as well :-) ) BUT that may not be the reason, there could be many reasons and I am feeling that it is actually done for the good of the Sailors.

As to why it is being declined now...like diannep said, we don't know and we don't have to be given an explanation :-) That's true for any branch of service.

Here is the "official" from TSC GL Abridged Phase Liberty Policy on the hotels and I will explain following:

2) Students are prohibited from entering Bldg 30 (Boorda Hall), Bldg 62 (Navy Gateway Inns and Suites), the 400 complex (with the exception of BEQ 439) and on-base housing (which includes the Navy Lodge) and Forest City Housing unless you are listed as a resident. During recruit graduation weekend from Recruit Training Command, if recruits attaching to TSC-GL have family staying in the Navy Lodge or Gateway Inns and Suites, they will be required to route a special request chit to the OIC to be able to enter and meet the family at their room. 

Basically all of the above listed no-no areas are housing and recreation and those are the ones the students are not allowed into with the exception of BEQ 439.

BEQ is Basic Enlisted Quarters.

OIC is Officer in Charge

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